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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:49 PM
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ABC/WaPo POLL: Support for gay marriage, legalizing immigrants, decriminalizing marijuana increases.
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 02:53 PM by jefferson_dem
Changing Views on Gay Marriage, Gun Control, Immigration and Legalizing Marijuana
ABC News-Washington Post Poll: 49 Percent Support Gay Marriage, New High
ANALYSIS By GARY LANGER
April 30, 2009—

Support for gay marriage, legalizing illegal immigrants and decriminalizing marijuana all are at new highs. Three-quarters of Americans favor federal regulation of greenhouse gases. Two-thirds support establishing relations with Cuba.

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Take gay marriage, legal in Massachusetts, Connecticut and now Iowa, with Vermont coming aboard in September. At its low, in 2004, just 32 percent of Americans favored gay marriage, with 62 percent opposed. Now 49 percent support it versus 46 percent opposed -- the first time in ABC/Post polls that supporters have outnumbered opponents.

More than half, moreover -- 53 percent -- say gay marriages held legally in another state should be recognized as legal in their states.

The surprise is that the shift has occurred across ideological groups. While conservatives are least apt to favor gay marriage, they've gone from 10 percent support in 2004 to 19 percent in 2006 and 30 percent now -- overall a 20-point, threefold increase, alongside a 13-point gain among liberals and 14 points among moderates. (Politically, support for gay marriage has risen sharply among Democrats and independents alike, while far more slightly among Republicans.)

FIRST LEAN LEFT  On an entirely different issue, 46 percent of Americans now favor legalizing small amounts of marijuana for personal use, the most in data back to the mid-1980s and more than double its level 12 years ago. While 52 percent remain opposed, that's down from 75 percent in the late 1990s and 78 percent in 1986.

The biggest changes in the past two decades are 29- and 27-point advances in support of legalization among Democrats and independents, to 49 and 53 percent, respectively. The slightest: a 10-point gain among Republicans, to just 28 percent support.

In another new high, 61 percent now support giving illegal immigrants "the right to live here legally if they pay a fine and meet other requirements." That's up from 49 percent in 2007 to a substantial majority for the first time. In this case support is up more sharply among Republicans, a 17-point gain to 59 percent, than among Democrats, up 9 points to 68 percent. It's up 14 points among independents.

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http://abcnews.go.com/print?id=7459488
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:55 PM
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1. Liberal/Conservative labeling = bullshit
Gay Marriage - I'm in favor

Gun Control - I'm opposed to it

Immigration - I oppose severe limitations to it

Legalizing Marijuana - I favor it.

Am I a "liberal"? A "conservative"?

Personally I believe I'm a person with a brain who is capable of forming his own opinion without being told what to think by anybody.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 02:59 PM
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2. Right on!
And you are right where the vast chunk of the American public is - supportive or opposed to various things for various reasons that are idiosyncratic and not tied to any pre-ordained ideological disposition. I'm with you. Screw the stupid stale labels.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 03:04 PM
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5. Agreed except
we have a two party system, each with platforms they espouse. We are forced into a label. I wish we could do away with the parties entirely but till then I guess I am a liberal cause I chose the dem platform over the republican one even though I am an almost perfect mirror of the above posters beliefs.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 03:13 PM
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7. Well then, in the media's eyes, you are a...
FLIP-FLOPPER!1!11!

Can't make up your mind if you are a commie/socialist/pinko/latte-drinking/birkenstock-wearing/drug-loving 'liberal' OR a gun-loving/drown the government in a bathtub/bible-carrying/anti-immigrant/anti-legalizing drugs 'conservative'. It IS either/or, you don't get to pick and choose your issues and if you do ,you are a FLIP-FLOPPER, the MSM told me so!

:rofl:
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 03:01 PM
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3. Sweetness
I'll take all three please! oh and can we get a stay on term limits just this one time please!
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 03:03 PM
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4. The old folks who oppose gay marriage are dying off
It's gholish to say, and yes I know we have some old folks here who support gay marriage, but let's face it, the strongest opposition to marriage equality comes from the old folks. Vice versa with the young folks.

Fact is, that as more of the elderly bigots kick the bucket, we move just a little closer to marriage equality.
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Egnever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 03:05 PM
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6. Its all the beetles fault!
Edited on Thu Apr-30-09 03:06 PM by Egnever
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 04:20 PM
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8. One of John Dean's books explored that idea.
There was a psychological study done that showed that when societies got more liberal, it wasn't because people's minds were changing. It was because of generational die-off. I think the book was Conservatives Without Conscience. Interesting stuff.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 04:21 PM
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9. Yep -- That's what I was thinking.
Every day more old homophobes kick the bucket.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 09:18 PM
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11. Exactly. nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-30-09 09:18 PM
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10. Support for abortion rights DOWN. nt
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