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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:31 AM
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Cheney's continuing lie-"These methods were successfully used only after other methods failed."
Edited on Thu May-21-09 11:34 AM by jenmito
Ali Soufan disasgrees-UNDER OATH.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/us_world/Ex-FBI-Interrogator-Says-Harsh-Methods-Didnt-Work.html

It's easy and cowardly to keep repeating the same lies when not under oath and with the help of the "liberal" media.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:37 AM
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1. It'd be nice if the MSM pointed this out for their viewers.
Instead, they're talking to Dick's fucking daughter.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:03 PM
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4. I couldn't believe that!
Cheney's clone/daughter. What a joke interviewing her to get her opinion.
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VWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 11:49 AM
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2. He's not lying
The "conventional" methods failed at etablishing a non-existant link between AQ & Iraq.
Torturing succeeded in fabricating the link.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:02 PM
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3. Good point!
I just wish someone would point that out!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:21 PM
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5. YAY! David Shuster just mentioned Ali Soufan! But it was to Evan Kohlmann,
Edited on Thu May-21-09 01:21 PM by jenmito
NBC terrorism analyst who agrees with him. I hope he mentions him to the next REPUB. he has on!
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:21 PM
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6. The "enhanced interrogation techniques" of Abu Ghraib worked to get the whole
world against the U.S. toture policy. Even republicans spoke out about the Abu Ghraib prisoner treatment.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:28 PM
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7. Shuster just asked Repub. from the Heritage Foundation who he believes...
Ali Soufan or Dick Cheney and of course he said Cheney. So Shuster pressed him, "So just to be clear, you think the former FBI officer purgered himself-lied under oath?" The guy answered that he doesn't know about that specific case (which IS the specific case Cheney always cites to justify waterboarding). You GO, Shuster!
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:36 PM
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8. ummm... if i am not mistaken, that is bullshit. they were getting info from ordinary
regular old methods. perhaps they weren't getting the info they wanted, but that had nothing to do with getting true information, just specific information that was never true to begin with. i guess torture is good for getting folks to say htings that AREN'T true if that is what you are looking for.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:42 PM
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9. Like I said, it's Cheney's LIE which has been disproven by
Ali Soufan under oath. You're right.
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styersc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 01:44 PM
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10. Cheney Perpetuates an even bigger lie!!!!
During the speech Cheney repeated the old, (paraphrase:)they only have to be successfull once in delivering a nuclear bomb inside our country. The same old, Mushroom cloud, weapons of mass destruction, Hussein was in on 9/11 crap that they spewed to get us into the war!!! They can't get away with rewriting history!!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:35 PM
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11. Contessa Brewer on MSNBC just pointed that out!
That Cheney just linked Saddam to 9/11 again!
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:41 PM
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12. IT DOESN'T MATTER! Torture is torture.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 02:43 PM
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13. IT MATTERS THAT CHENEY KEEPS PUTTING OUT HIS LIE UNCHALLENGED.
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bottomtheweaver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:04 PM
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14. Good catch.
Another "everything he said is a lie including and and the" from the master.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:13 PM
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15. Thanks, bottomtheweaver...
and David Shuster must've caught it, too. He was the first person on TV to mention it this afternoon since the day the guy testified.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 03:35 PM
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16. David Shuster breaking it down right now! Talking about Abu Zubaydah, al Libi, and KSM,
Edited on Thu May-21-09 03:38 PM by jenmito
and how NONE of them gave the "valuable information" because of waterboarding. He listed the proof-the things we now KNOW which disputes Cheney's claims he made again in his speech today. :rofl:

Now he's asking Repub. strategist Sherri Jakobis about it all and, of course, she's repeating Cheney's debunked claims, saying Obama should release the memos Cheney requested.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-21-09 04:37 PM
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17. One: LIE. Two: LIE.
And anyone who truly bothers to know the facts already knows that both points from the dick are, in fact, LIES.

Which of course means the freepers believe every word dick spews, LOL!
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