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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:02 PM
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PHOTOS Those peace-hating Israelis
Oh wait!

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Israeli peace activists during a demonstration in Tel Aviv on June 6, 2009, marking 42 years since the Six Day War between Israel against Egypt, Jordan and Syria.

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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:04 PM
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1. If only they were the ones in power.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:04 PM
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2. It would be really interesting in seeing a poll of Israeli public opinion on the settlements
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 02:05 PM by bluestateguy
If anybody knows of one, please share. I would like to think that a majority of Israelis do not share the Likud view on the settlements.
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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:30 PM
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16. I don't have a link - Update: I do have a link
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 04:06 PM by DrToast
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/michaeltomasky/2009/jun/05/obama-israel-settlements

Kind of mixed feelings about Obama, but they seem to favor what he wants, so it's weird.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:22 PM
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31. Guess: They know that their problems are partly of their own perpetuation...
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 09:22 PM by BlooInBloo
but don't want to admit it.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:21 PM
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3. Now those are some folks with ....
... some BALLS!

I dont like the KKK, but I wouldn't drive down the road to Pulaski, TN (where it was founded) and protest it. I'm too chicken. lol
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:57 PM
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20. Tel Aviv is the heart of the progressive, secular Israel
If they did the same thing in Jerusalem, that would be closer to your Pulaski, TN comparison.

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Aristus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:24 PM
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4. Oh God! I just teared up at #4. I'm not exaggerating!
That did my heart a world of good...

Peace, everybody...please...
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:26 PM
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5. That's good to see
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:36 PM
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6. This is so refreshing after viewing that awful video the other day.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:39 PM
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7. Unfortunately most Americans think that all Israelis think alike.
Israel has it conservatives and liberals just like the US. Right now the conservatives are in power.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:25 PM
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15. Their peace movement is more or less blacked out by the media here.
Just as ours is.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:41 PM
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8. Bless their
hearts.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:47 PM
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9. Thank you for that
As in No. Ireland, I'm convinced peace cannot happen until enough people have had enough and are willing to say so, loudly.

Bless these people for doing so.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:54 PM
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11. Hey JerseygirlCT
Not in a million years did I think the violence would ever stop in Ireland, I just felt the hate was so intense there couldn't possibly be peace - in my lifetime, anyway. Things are far from perfect now, there's still plenty of hate and violence, but it is infinitely better than it was. So maybe there is hope, after all, for the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians? These photos are uplifting, even if the people in them would be largely dismissed as a 'fringe' element. Maybe the fringe will grow?


:toast:


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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:02 PM
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13. I'd guess that what appears to be a "fringe" is just the
public showing, finally, of a pretty widely-developed movement. Critical mass coming to the fore.

I hope so, anyway.

And really, most people want nothing more than they want the chance to live in peace, and raise their children in peace.
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sonias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:51 PM
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10. Bless the new generation
I hope that one day a new generation of young people can end the cycle of violence and hate.

Sonia
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 02:57 PM
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12. Is There A Linky Dinky
available?
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:13 PM
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14. Me too....is there a link to these photos?
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:37 PM
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17. Sorry, forgot to include it in OP: www.daylife.com
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 09:31 AM
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36. That is not a link to the photos. Can you find a link to the photos?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:41 PM
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18. I wish they were a majority.
Or even a significant minority.

But, they're not. Dick Cheney would be a moderate in today's Israel.

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DrToast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:05 PM
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21. Wrong...
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 03:49 PM
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19. K & R
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 04:25 PM
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22. Thrilling to see our CPI comrades working for peace again
Here is their English website, which always lags way behind the Hebrew language website:


http://www.maki.org.il/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogcategory&id=79&Itemid=106
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 05:36 PM
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23. Reminds me of the Martha Reeves/Vandellas song
Dancing in the streets!

..It's an invitation across the nation
A chance for folks to meet...

..It doesn't matter what you wear
Just as long as you are there..
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:03 PM
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24. K&R
:kick:
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:44 PM
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25. Ever notice you never see their Palestinian counterparts?
Ever question it?

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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:47 PM
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26. They exist, alright.
Edited on Sat Jun-06-09 07:49 PM by Jackeens




Israeli soldiers scuffle with Palestinian and foreign peace activists after they erected a tent next to settlers who constructed an illegal outpost on a land owned by Haddar Palestinian family, near the village of Yatta, southern the West Bank city of Hebron, on June 6, 2009



Israeli soldiers remove a tent built by Palestinian and foreign peace activists after they erected it next to settlers who constructed an illegal outpost on a land owned by Haddar Palestinian family, near the village of Yatta, southern the West Bank city of Hebron, on June 6, 2009

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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:49 PM
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27. 100% of the time?
Not even you believe that.
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Jackeens Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 07:51 PM
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28. Of course not. I'm just saying there are peace activists on both sides, as there are extremists....
....whose worst nightmare is peace. I come from Ireland, it's a familiar story!

PS Sorry for editing my previous post, I changed it to fit the photos.
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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 09:11 PM
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30. Notice where the Palestinian Peace Activists are protesting
They are protesting the Jewish settlements.

They are not protesting against Palestinian missles or human bombs.

That's what I meant.

The obvious truth is their fellow countymen would never let such protests take place.

That should bother people on both sides of this debate.
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 10:38 PM
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32. Of course.
The woman who fights back against her rapist is just as guilty as he is.

That is what you are saying, isn't it?
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 09:34 AM
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37. Has it occurred to you that bombs and missiles would go away when illegal settlements do?
are you questioning the sincerity of the Palestinean peace activists, or justifying the existence of settlements as an answer to the missiles and bombs, or something else?

Because the only connection I can draw between illegal settlements and militant Palestinian reaction to the settlements via bombs and missiles is that when the first goes away so will the second. Palestine isn't invading Israel, it's the other way around.



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sellitman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:13 AM
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38. Has it occurred to you that..
Whenever Israel has turned over land, that new land has been used only to launch more missiles?

Have you looked at maps of "Palestine" used in Palestinian schools?

There is no Israel in those maps.

Coincidence?

I think not.

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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 08:25 PM
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29. K & R
:thumbsup:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-06-09 11:17 PM
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33. Once again....the huge divergence between the people and the government...
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Autonomy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 01:15 AM
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34. Uh, these are pics of a communist march
The banner says "The Communist Party of Israel" at the bottom. I don't think they have any power or credibility ANYWHERE, and definintely not in Israel.
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 01:39 AM
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35. you are quite correct. That is a Hadash Party (Communist Party) march - they have four seats in the
Knesset - the binational Hadash Party ran on the slogan, "Jews and Arabs refuse to be enemies"
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Donald Ian Rankin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-07-09 10:20 AM
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39. Praiseworthy, but not numerous.
At the last Israeli election, the dovish parties (Hadash, Meretz, Balad and UAL) between them got 14 seats, the unambigiously hawkish parties (Kadima, Likud, YB, Shas, UTJ, NU, and the Jewish Home) got 93 and Labour, which was once pro-peace but under Barak is becoming increasingly hawkish, got 13 out of 120.

There is no hope for a consensual peace in the ME - Israel simply isn't interested in making the necessary territorial concessions.

The only vague hope is if the US forces it to do so against its will.
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