Letterman did NOT joke about "women and girls." He joked about Sarah Palin's adult daughter.

[jenmito]

The one who had a baby and went on a media blitz holding her baby talking about abstinence. Why are people acting like he joked about ALL females???

[musette_sf]

1. and besides

all these RW twits with their panties in a twist over this, would theoretically applaud Dr. Laura calling Bristol a "knocked-up shack-up honey". which is what she calls all unmarried pregnant women.

(NOW needs to calm down too IMHO. there are MORE important issues women are facing RIGHT NOW besides whether Bristol Palin is a knocked-up shack-up honey.)

[jenmito]

2. Exactly.

The whole thing is ridiculous. Palin used to talk about needing thick skin if people want to be involved in politics. I think she forgot that-conveniently.

[DeschutesRiver]

21. Good point re their fascination with Dr. Laura and her tough love straight talk

The Palins are merely trying to re-frame the issue in a way that keeps them in the spotlight because they don't like being ignored.

I have a feeling that perhaps by the time Lettermen gets done with them, they'll be wishing they'd never started this re-frame job - they've already badly botched it, jmho, and this could go epic fail on the both of them. Yeah!

[Cha]

36. Exactly, that's what they tried to do..

That's the only thing they're good at and NOW fell into the trap.

[DeschutesRiver]

41. fingers crossed that the trap gets sprung:) nt

[masuki bance]

27. Is that an OK way to describe Obama's Mother?

"Let me be as clear as possible," Obama said. "I think people's families are off-limits, and people's children are especially off-limits. This shouldn't be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin's performance as governor or her potential performance as a vice president."

Obama said reporters should "back off these kinds of stories" and noted that he was born to an 18-year-old mother.

"How a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn't be the topic of our politics, and I hope that anybody who is supporting me understands that's off-limits."


http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/01/obama.palin/index.html

People here are throwing around all kinds of derogatory language, including calling the child a bastard.

[musette_sf]

31. oh, i didn't say anything about young mothers.

perhaps you ought to read my post before posting unrelated BS.

and if you have any other issues, call 1-800-DR-LAURA.

[masuki bance]

32. Now what Obama said is BS?

Piece of work, you are.

[jenmito]

37. Why are you twisting the poster's words like that? And why are you buying

Sarah Palin's lie that Letterman was joking about raping her 14 year old daughter? Obama has nothing to do with this!

[masuki bance]

39. "...unrelated BS" is pretty clear. nt

[jenmito]

40. It sure is. You brought unrelated BS into the conversation. n/t

[Starbucks Anarchist]

3. Stop using logic.

It's kryptonite for morons.

[jenmito]

5. The media and the Palins

seem to have taken your advice. :)

[roguevalley]

23. call her office and tell her what you think: 1-907-465-3500

[dflprincess]

4. I really, really hope the day comes when Palin regrets she crossed Dave

better people than her have tried (and failed).

[jenmito]

6. So do I. But for now, the media is playing right into her hands.

As are some DEMS. to my dismay. So I hope Dave keeps the heat on her.

[dflprincess]

18. I think, for now, Dave should just drop it

nothing will make Palin crazier than being ignored. He can bide his time and take her down when it works for him (though if he ignores her and she keeps trying to push this, she may do the job for him).

[jenmito]

19. I don't think he mentioned her last night...

let's see if Palin keeps looking crazier and crazier.

[kath]

25. Missed last night's show, but he was BRILLIANT the night before in discussing this issue- see clip:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3gDVWMRG0A

I hope he covers this for weeks, just like with the JohnMcCain-stood-me-up fuss last fall. HOW many times did he show McCain getting his make-up done to be on the other show??!? It was hilarious.

[jenmito]

26. I saw that show and I agree. He DID handle it brilliantly. He AGREED with

what Palin said. And that's because he DIDN'T joke about rape NOR the 14-year-old.

[rvablue]

33. He did. He made a joke to the effect of:

"Sarah Palin invited me to go hunting."

He's not going to let up. Dave doesn't suffer fools, liars and bullies well.

[jenmito]

34. Oh, yeah. He DID say that.

That was his reason he thought he and Sarah patched things up-because she invited him to go hunting. :D

[JuniperLea]

7. They are irony deficient...

So they don't get it at all.

[jenmito]

8. I agree...

I just wish the people HERE would get it. The media has been covering this all day long for the past 3 days. Anyone who felt Letterman crossed the line should be on HIS side at this point since she's taking total advantage of this and lying about it.

[JuniperLea]

10. As per usual...

The more she talks, the clearer it becomes that she is dumb as a box of hammers.

[cboy4]

12. Now, now .. you're being sexist!!

:sarcasm:

[JuniperLea]

15. LOL! Yeah, self-hating lady that I am:)

:hi:

Dumb crosses all boundaries... we gots dumb comin' outta our ears these days. Sarah is their Queen of Dumb.

[jenmito]

13. I wouldn't insult hammers that way!

But you're right. :)

[jenmito]

9. Peggy Noonan: :Sarah Palin seems frazzled, overresponsive and yammery."

I guess she said that on Morning Joe this morning. I hope others start feeling the same way.

[Phx_Dem]

22. That's how Palin always sounds.

[cboy4]

11. You have to wonder what's going on with the minds of people

who ignore what you're saying.

I've never seen so much Sarah Palin love on DU. :puke:

[jenmito]

14. I DO wonder...

Sarah Palin is stretching the Letterman jokes into a full-fledged campaign against "sexism" and people are buying it.

[cboy4]

16. Yea .. it's especially disturbing DUers . some . are giving the FReepers

a run for the money in that department.

[jenmito]

17. I noticed...

that's why I started this thread.

[jenmito]

20. kick for those who think Letterman denigraded all women for his jokes about an 18 year old

woman who's in the public eye galavanting around with her baby and preaching about abstinence.

[jenmito]

24. AND it's OBVIOUS he was talking about the OLDER daughter-the one who got

"knocked up" as he said. How should HE know it was the younger daughter who was with Sarah at the game in NY? Palin claimed it took a few days for Letterman to "come up with the excuse" that he was talking about Bristol and not Willow. That's BS.

[Clio the Leo]

28. And you know what you'd NEVER see "He who must be obeyed" doing?

"He who must be obeyed" would NEVER go on a media tour to argue back at someone who'd made jokes about Sasha and Malia. NEVER. He wouldn't even comment on it.

Just think, Sasha and Malia spent days in Paris and London and we saw, what? Three random pictures? The kids weren't paraded on a media tour. That Palin woman needs to keep her EYES open and her mouth closed.

[DeschutesRiver]

42. Couldn't believe that line. You know, I know nothing about McCain's sons

other than I think he has more than one, and they are in the military. How come? Because he left them out of the campaign. I heard nothing about them or the other daughter (unless outsiders brought her up), and did hear from/about Megan because she is a politically active adult.

Palins brood is ONLY in the spotlight because PALIN put them there, and even now that she has lost, still won't remove them from the spotlight. She politicized her own children for her own personal gain, period. Obama didn't; neither did her running mate McCain and that is the difference. This is entirely within her control to stop at any time she so chooses to do so.

But since it is all about her, and not her kids, she'll keep doing it.

[bullwinkle428]

29. If she's such an advocate of women in general and rape victims in particular,

why did she make them pay for the rape kits?

[jenmito]

30. Not only that...

why does she make them keep the rapists' choices by wanting them to go through with the pregnancies?

[redqueen]

35. Because being an outrage junkie is really really really fucking popular. (nt)

[jenmito]

38. I see that. You're right. n/t

[LiberalFighter]

43. Because they are trying to get something positive for Palin out of this.

[jenmito]

45. But there are people HERE who are doing this. n/t

[Cha]

44. Here's a good analysis on that from buzzflash..

A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS
by Chad Rubel

"If you don't think Sarah Palin is dangerous -- and chances are, you are already do -- what she and her husband Todd pulled off this week is just the latest chapter in "Which Palin family member will be sacrificed to make Sarah Palin look like a martyr."

She got a significant percentage of the population to think David Letterman was actually making a sex joke about a 14-year-old girl and got Letterman to apologize profusely for something he never did.

Margaret Carlson of Bloomberg News put it best when talking to Keith Olbermann last night on "Countdown."

"David Letterman did not drag the 14-year-old daughter into this. The Palins dragged the 14-year-old daughter into it. And it was absolutely egregious. And they obviously hunger for this kind of melodrama."

<more>>>>
http://blog.buzzflash.com/analysis/813

[jenmito]

46. Thanks for the article...

it's exactly right. Some people HERE need to read it!

[Cha]

47. Well, I'll kick

it up a notch!

[jenmito]

48. Thanks, Cha!

:hi:

[CitizenPatriot]

49. agree!!!

I borrowed this comment from a poster on immoral minority:

"This is all coming from a woman who hired a sexual harrasser as Comish of Public Safety. Attempted to get in a woman hater Wayne A. Ross as Attorney General. Made women pay for their own rape kit in Wasilla. Fired Walt Monegan when he wanted to help native women and children from rape and abuse in villages. where was her outrage for women then?"

furthermore, just listen to her laugh as another woman is called a "bit--", "fat" and a "a cancer" on alaska. oh, and this other woman is a cancer survivor. classy. Yeah, Palin is a feminist. Puke.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4a7_1220377291

[jenmito]

50. Thanks...

for all that info. She really is a classless hypocrite!

[CitizenPatriot]

51. patriarchal barbie

that's Palin....

[kaiden]

52. I thought most of the joke centered on A-Rod and HIS morals.

[gauguin57]

53. Don't forget that Sarah got "knocked up" before she was married.

Her wedding to Todd was a shotgun affair.

So, he was joking about a whole PASSEL of adult Palins.