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Writer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:33 PM
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On Letterman and Palin
Political behavior doesn't normally rankle me, but this dust-up between Sarah Palin and David Letterman has made my hair stand on end.

In case you have been busy carrying on with more meaningful activities in your life, you may have missed Letterman's Monday program in which he took a few jabs at Sarah Palin's - and her family's - expense.

http://www.youtube.com/v/j5g8kE_g-YA&hl=en&fs=1&

So Letterman made a joke about Palin's daughter? He doesn't say which daughter, so let's do some quick logical work: The joke insinuated that Alex Rodriguez (why hasn't he complained, Sarah? Answer me that...) "knocked up" her daughter. So, making a quick memory reference to Palins in the past who have been "knocked up," daughter Bristol comes to mind. And there - HA! - the joke is about Alex Rodriguez knocking up Bristol Palin!

Joke told. People laugh. Time to cut the lights and go to bed.

But not for Saint Sarah. The Narcissist from Alaska, our Merkle from the North, found an opportunity to stir up dirt and feed off the ensuing chaos. This mother of five who paraded in front of beauty pageants as a young woman, winked like Bambi at the camera during her Vice Presidential debate in 2008, made female victims pay for their own rape kits in Alaska, and opposes abortion rights, is now posing as the feminist champion in support of young women's "self-esteem."

Sarah, get real.

I will not reprint her press release following Letterman's Monday show, but in that release Sarah raises symbols that do nothing but aggravate public discourse: sex with under-aged children, rape, pedophilia, misogyny, and older male perversity with young women. Her Barthesian cacophony raised so many troubling specters that the Republican pitch-fork patrol immediately went to work for their dear "victim" Sarah. The claim? That Letterman was joking about Alex Rodriguez raping her 14 year-old daughter, Willow.

Yes, 14 year-old Willow, who - while the actual attendee at the Yankees game with Sarah - is not the recent Palin who got "knocked up."

Bergman and Luckmann write about the religious nature of ideological conversion - once you become a group member, it becomes a part of your personal identity. Within this "conversion" process you adopt the symbols that define the group as your own, and reject those symbols (and people) that do not comport with the group's belief system. This also means adopting that group's definition of reality, even if that reality entails tainted logic.

And thus, this defines the Republican partisans who, pitchforks raised, are repeating Palin's disingenuous and twisted manipulation of Letterman's joke. Letterman wasn't making a joke referring to Bristol's teen pregnancy, they are shouting, but about statutory rape with a 14 year-old. Really? Let's think about this: David Letterman, who has been in broadcasting for more than 30 years, who recently dedicated (http://popwatch.ew.com/popwatch/2009/02/david-letterman.html) an entire program to apologizing to the mother of the late comedian Bill Hicks for cutting his act from the show before his death to pancreatic cancer in 1993, who once castigated radio jock Howard Stern in 1995 for (http://media.www.dailypennsylvanian.com/media/storage/paper882/news/1995/07/27/Resources/Column.Tragic.Humor-2178298.shtml) wearing a T-shirtthat mocked the Simpson murder trial, who keeps his own child, Harry, well out of the public spotlight, apparently now has the ethical nature to consciously make a joke about the statutory rape of a 14 year-old girl.

This is the reality in which Republican partisans are - must,rather - operate. Within the Republican world-view, the only way their criticism stands is if Letterman and his writing staff actually, truly, thoughtfully wrote such a crass, despicable joke. That they would be so socially unconscionable to air the joke and defend the joke thereafter. That's what must be true within Republican circles, even if Letterman himself explained - and many of us outside of those circles understood well - was a joke at the expenses of Alex Rodriguez and 18 year-old mother Bristol Palin.

So the drumbeat to oust David Letterman - himself a cultural institution - is on high tempo. They are screaming and clamoring for Letterman's ouster. They're calling him a misogynist and even a pedophile. What they don't understand is that Letterman, at 62, is an inherently wise individual and, having interviewed people since his guest-spots on Carson, knows how the Saint Sarah's of the world operate. He's not a victim, and he won't become Saint Sarah's victim so easily.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:36 PM
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1. Excellence. nt
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:39 PM
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2. Palin needs attention to boost her 2012 bid,
and phony outrage at Letterman was convenient.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:42 PM
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3. Sarah needs attention, period. And she doesn't give a flying fark
who she has to run over to get it.

God, but she is a disgusting piece of protoplasm. :puke:

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sandyj999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:47 PM
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4. That's Sarah
Still a media whore.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 04:49 PM
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5. I suspect Sarah will show up in one of those top ten lists soon and it'll hurt
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 04:52 PM by lunatica
I have total confidence in Letterman to handle Sarah or any other idiot easily. His humor can be skin peelingly sarcastic, and drips with razor sharp icicles when he chooses. And he can think on his feet faster than Sarah will ever be able to.
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rufus dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 05:00 PM
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6. The worst part is her refusal to accept his explanation
He specifically said it was aimed at Bristol, and it was tacky. When Lauer brought up that point she dismissed Lauer and anyone who took Letterman at his word as liars and evil. She is a horrible evil person who is extremely hypocritical and is only interested what she thinks is best for Sara, she has no respect for her family or her Country.

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Butch350 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 05:48 PM
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7. I just can't believe this woman is A governor of a state.

I do not intend for this to be an insult against women. (just palin)
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 06:00 PM
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8. You said it perfectly, Writer!!
And I hope that Dave doesn't let it go.

He already took another shot at Bible Spice last night. And I hope he keeps it up!

What is the Governor or Alaska going to do? Release daily press releases criticizing a late night talk show host.

You know what, Sarah. Go for it. Yeah, that'll really help your image, credibility, statesmanship, etc. You are seen as a fool by everyone in this country, save the dead-enders who still think Shrubbie was a great president and this circus ain't going to help.

Dave has never suffered the arrogant, the lying or the bullying and has not only class but intelligence. Don't back down, Dave. Go for it, we'll all be watching!!!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 06:06 PM
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9. "Bible Spice"!
:rofl:
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rvablue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 06:15 PM
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10. Can't take credit for it, Jenmito!
That one is thanks to Alec Baldwin.

It's my personal favorite!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 06:16 PM
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11. Oh, well...
it's still hilarious! :hi:
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:28 PM
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12. Yes that's exactly what David should do
That means that ms Sarah will (as usual) not be focusing on Alaska issues.

David needs to bring up that Alaska has one of the highest rape counts in the nation and why hasn't Sarah done anything about it.
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Danascot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:35 PM
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13. Very nicely stated
... a couple of further thoughts:

Letterman is currently in a ratings war with O'Brien. Doesn't Palin realize that the publicity she's showering on Letterman is helping him considerably?

Doesn't she remember what happened to her buddy John McCain when he pissed off Letterman?

I'd call her a fool except it would be an insult to fools.





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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:52 PM
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14. They are more interested in pillorying liberals than protecting their kids.
If this hoo ha had never started I, and millions of others, would never even have heard the joke.
It would have disappeared in the airwaves.

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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-12-09 07:54 PM
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15. Thanks for posting this link.
Edited on Fri Jun-12-09 07:56 PM by Hansel
I finally got to hear the joke. I could have lived without it. Not really very funny, or tasteful. It was poor writing mixed with poor judgment on Letterman's part to go ahead with it.

However, the butt of the joke was A-Rod more so than Palin's daughter. And somewhat about Palin's bad luck in having her daughter knocked-up, again. I think it showed a disrespect for Palin, but the flap Palin has blown it up into is a wee bit more than need be.

She should have privately asked for a public apology and been done with it. But as usual, if she can exploit her children for her own "stardom" and fame, she's more than happy to do so. If she was really that concerned about her daughter's well being, she and her "first dude" wouldn't be fighting this out in public like some trailer park trash on an all night bender.
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