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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:47 PM
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Was 9/11 Really the Fault of the GOP?? Think about this...
Remember during the late 90s when Clinton was bombing Iraq and Afghanistan and the GOP was focused on Clinton's sex life?

Remember the shouts of "Wag the dog" and that Clinton was trying to take focus off of the Lewinsky scandal?


Now, imagine if the GOP had kept its trap shut and Clinton was able to actually put troops on the ground in Afghanistan and capture or even kill bin Laden.


9/11 would NOT have happened!!!
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PROGRESSIVE1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:49 PM
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1. I agree!!!!
People such as Orrin Hatch (R/Nazi), the "Supreme Allied Holy Commander of the Holy Christian Republic of Utah" assaulting Clinton and obstructing his ability to fight terrorism is a stain on the GOP.

The GOP is to blame for this.

:grr:
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:22 PM
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16. I read an article from the late 1990s or....
early 2000 where Hatch said that Clinton fighting terrorism is a fony issue....what an asshole!
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:49 PM
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2. Clenis was responsible.

Clenis is also responsible for the war on Iraq going south. No?
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DBtv Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:50 PM
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3. They needed it to set up their neo-fascist totalitarian state.
GOP MIHOP.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:51 PM
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4. MIHOP?
I've seen that up here before but don't know what that means.
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DBtv Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:52 PM
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6. Made It Happen On Purpose.
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 02:52 PM by DBtv
re 911
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:54 PM
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10. Thanks, folks
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archineas Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:53 PM
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9. LIHOP and MIHOP
Let It Happen On Purpose and Made It Happen On Purpose...

It took me awhile, but i eventually figured it out.

(going back to lurk mode)
j
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:32 PM
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21. Hi archineas!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:51 PM
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5. It didn't help. In fact Gore should have pounced on that fact
but that Monday morning QBing.......
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:52 PM
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7. yes! it's amazing all Bill was able to do
while also having to battle the RW conspiracy. Think of all else he could of accomplished. Not to mention the millions of tax $$$ spent on Star's Whitewater investigation. Now my blood is boiling again.
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:53 PM
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8. 9-11 was preventable, says so in the 9-11 report, I blame Bush....
...because he and others received the intelligence report in early August saying Bin Laden determined to strike in U.S, but they choose to let it happen and they choose on purpose! Clinton told Bush in the transition before leaving office to place terrorist threats high on the list of security priorities, but Bush took vacations instead. Bush MIHOP/LIHOP. More shall be revealed.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:55 PM
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11. PNAC
Think maybe the PNAC was behind the GOP attack dogs? Let the hatred fester? Cut Clinton off at the knees?
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 04:35 PM
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18. Don't know, but it certainly is time for a change so my vote will go...
...to Kerry Edwards on Nov 2. I think Kerry's NYU speech this morning was the breath of openness and truth that the voters have needed to maker the right choice.
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Paradise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:55 PM
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12. Wish I had a 'civil suit' to bring against the *! n/t
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 02:56 PM
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13. Aug, 6, 2001 PDB flyer for printing
Most people have not read the 8/6/01 PDB!

Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high resolution TIF or PDF file to print.

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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:00 PM
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14. I said that along time ago
The people most responsible for the 9-11 attacks were the Repuke congress and their repeated attacks on the president and their repeated "investigations" which caused time and money to be defered from more important issues, like terrorism
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:19 PM
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15. That is certainly true but
their response is always going to be that they are not at fault because the had to go after Clinton and it is his fault for "not keeping his pants on". :argh:
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:31 PM
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17. Millennium Plot was stopped by Clinton
What has Bush stopped?

http://hnn.us/roundup/comments/4423.html

So it just is not true that Bush was doing exactly the same thing on terrorism that Clinton was. He didn't have a cabinet-level counter-terrorism czar; he didn't have the routine of principals' meetings on terrorism; he didn't authorize Clarke to go to 'battle stations' and heightened security alert in summer of 2001 the way Clinton had done in December, 1999.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 05:24 PM
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19. Absolutely true.
Republicans conducted an 8 year, $70MM taxpayer-funded Inquisition into the last popularly elected Democratic President. How many investigations did Republicans instigate under Clinton? How many under Bush?

In the late 90's as the War on Clinton progressed to its dirty climax, Republicans had 200 FBI field agents running down cheap rumors looking for anything to stick. No surprise - Republican partisan politics took priority over national security. It's the nature of being Republican.

Don't forget, too-

(1) Chjeney/Bush shitcanned the recommendations of the Hart-Rodman bi-partisan Commission on Terror. Dick had to have his Iraq Invasion Planning / Oil Field Business Auction (otherwise known as the Secret Energy Meetings).

(2) Bush took tactical submarines off-station in the Gulf. They were tasked for taking out OBL.

(3) Bush took the surveilance drones off-station. Hard to find OBL if you're not looking.

(4) Bush administration mentions Al-Qaeda ONCE publicly, prior to 9/11.

(5) The Bush and bin Laden were business partners in the Carlyle Group. Carlyle Group - "In the Construction / Destruction / Construction Business"
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 06:04 PM
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20. And Bush has mentioned bin Laden almost never since invading Iraq
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ohio_dem_52186 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 08:23 PM
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23. Sources for your 200 FBI agents?
Can you give me any sources for your "200 FBI agents". I'd like to use that sometime...

Thanks!

email: comments@getthefacts.atspace.com
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:00 PM
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24. I hink I've read it in "The Hunting of a President"
I've heard it in various forums.
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ohio_dem_52186 Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:42 PM
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26. Thanks. I may have to visit the library. That fact is to good to
pass up.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:33 PM
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22. We saw "The Hunting of the President" last night
at a theater here in Austin.

I can't remember the exact facts but it was something like this:

Clinton spoke to the UN in New York, and that same day, either the Monica story broke, or Paula Jones sued. I'm not sure which sex story it was, but I'm sure that he spoke to the UN.

Guess what his topic was in that speech?

Yep. The threat of terrorism.

That's keeping your eye on the ball, Republicans. Nice work.
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Green Lantern Donating Member (277 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 09:07 PM
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25. The GOP is definitely at fault
but I think that the hard line big stick lack of diplomacy by the Bushwa crowd in the first few months really defined the response of the rest of the world. Created the no help attitudes, the terra, the whole nine yards. This has been a building GOP issue since Newtie the Grinch.

They have "God" on their side, are always right, have the $$$, and the nitwits in Congress like Hatch and DeLay, to write the rules.
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