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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:38 PM
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We need to start an all in out BLITZ on CNN and MSNBC
Enough of all this bullshit, today is the breaking point. When I see something CBS has done spun into "Kerry and his handlers being involved" and when I see news readers like Sam Shane (MSNBC) wincing, ( you can see he doesn't want to report this forced message ) saying that it was "suspicious" that Joe Lockhart had a phone call with Burkett we have reached a point where drastic measures have to be taken.

I have zero political organization skills. So I ask the fine minds I see here regularly to please get this ball rolling. If we don't do something organized, massive and with conviction now everything we knew of America might very well be gone!

It's gone way to far! This is not America!
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David Dunham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:39 PM
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1. Everyone please email them to complain.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:44 PM
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2. more then that
we need people here with organization skills to start a , e mail writing, snail mail writing, picketing, Letter to the Editor writing campaign that will shake these bastards up and force people to say out publicly what we here have been saying all along. We are being taken over by a white house, corporate media agenda.

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21winner Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:57 PM
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6. Email only tells them you watch.
They don't give a shit about how you feel. You only add to their ratings. i suggest you contact your cable provider instead,they just might listen.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:47 PM
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3. Cable News is right leaning
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 03:48 PM by KurtNYC
The biggest audience for cable news is mature, well-monied people. And there aren't all that many of them.

In contrast, CNN and MSNBC both attracted less than a third of the same market share, stated a news release from Fox News Channel. In prime time, Fox News Channel commanded 55% of the cable news market share, averaging 1.4 million viewers, while CNN claimed 32% of that audience with 828,000 viewers. During Rick Kaplan's first full quarter as president of MSNBC, its prime-time line-up attracted 13% of the cable news audience with 321,000 viewers (down 41% in viewership year to year).
http://www.business-journal.com/archives/20040630FOXTopQ204.asp

CNN's 828,000 is less than 1/2% of the US population. People watch the "news" which panders to their viewpoint so I don't see the cable nets changing much.

My hope is in alternative sources (internet, AAR). We can't stop the other side from owning news outlets but at least we can have our own.

edit: added link
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Carla in Ca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:50 PM
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4. Read it and weep

Who owns CNN? or MSNBC? ABC?


So ya think we have a "free press" eh? Check out who owns who, and who owns what you think.......

GENERAL ELECTRIC --(donated 1.1 million to GW Bush for his 2000 election campaign)

Television Holdings:
* NBC: includes 13 stations, 28% of US households.
* NBC Network News: The Today Show, Nightly News with Tom Brokaw, Meet the Press, Dateline NBC, NBC News at Sunrise.
* CNBC business television; MSNBC 24-hour cable and Internet news service (co-owned by NBC and Microsoft); Court TV (co-owned with Time Warner), Bravo (50%), A&E (25%), History Channel (25%).
The "MS" in MSNBC
means microsoft
The same Microsoft that donated 2.4 million to get GW bush elected.

Other Holdings:
* GE Consumer Electronics.
* GE Power Systems: produces turbines for nuclear reactors and power plants.
* GE Plastics: produces military hardware and nuclear power equipment.
* GE Transportation Systems: runs diesel and electric trains.
==================================================

WESTINGHOUSE / CBS INC.
Westinghouse Electric Company, part of the Nuclear Utilities Business Group of British Nuclear Fuels (BNFL)
whos #1 on the Board of Directors? None other than:
Frank Carlucci (of the Carlyle Group)

Television Holdings:
* CBS: includes 14 stations and over 200 affiliates in the US.
* CBS Network News: 60 minutes, 48 hours, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather, CBS Morning News, Up to the Minute.
* Country Music Television, The Nashville Network, 2 regional sports networks.
* Group W Satellite Communications.
Other Holdings:
* Westinghouse Electric Company: provides services to the nuclear power industry.
* Westinghouse Government Environmental Services Company: disposes of nuclear and hazardous wastes. Also operates 4 government-owned nuclear power plants in the US.
* Energy Systems: provides nuclear power plant design and maintenance.
================================================================
VIACOM INTERNATIONAL INC.
Television Holdings:
* Paramount Television, Spelling Television, MTV, VH-1, Showtime, The Movie Channel, UPN (joint owner), Nickelodeon, Comedy Central, Sundance Channel (joint owner), Flix.
* 20 major market US stations.
Media Holdings:
* Paramount Pictures, Paramount Home Video, Blockbuster Video, Famous Players Theatres, Paramount Parks.
* Simon & Schuster Publishing.
=============================================
DISNEY / ABC / CAP (donated 640 thousand to GW's 2000 campaign)
Television Holdings:
* ABC: includes 10 stations, 24% of US households.
* ABC Network News: Prime Time Live, Nightline, 20/20, Good Morning America.
* ESPN, Lifetime Television (50%), as well as minority holdings in A&E, History Channel and E!
* Disney Channel/Disney Television, Touchtone Television.
Media Holdings:
* Miramax, Touchtone Pictures.
* Magazines: Jane, Los Angeles Magazine, W, Discover.
* 3 music labels, 11 major local newspapers.
* Hyperion book publishers.
* Infoseek Internet search engine (43%).
Other Holdings:
* Sid R. Bass (major shares) crude oil and gas.
* All Disney Theme Parks, Walt Disney Cruise Lines.
======================================================

TIME-WARNER TBS - AOL (donated 1.6 million to GW's 2000 campaign)
America Online (AOL) acquired Time Warner–the largest merger in corporate history.
Television Holdings:
* CNN, HBO, Cinemax, TBS Superstation, Turner Network Television, Turner Classic Movies, Warner Brothers Television, Cartoon Network, Sega Channel, TNT, Comedy Central (50%), E! (49%), Court TV (50%).
* Largest owner of cable systems in the US with an estimated 13 million subscribers.
Media Holdings:
* HBO Independent Productions, Warner Home Video, New Line Cinema, Castle Rock, Looney Tunes, Hanna-Barbera.
* Music: Atlantic, Elektra, Rhino, Sire, Warner Bros. Records, EMI, WEA, Sub Pop (distribution) = the world’s largest music company.
* 33 magazines including Time, Sports Illustrated, People, In Style, Fortune, Book of the Month Club, Entertainment Weekly, Life, DC Comics (50%), and MAD Magazine.
Other Holdings:
* Sports: The Atlanta Braves, The Atlanta Hawks, World Championship Wrestling.
=======================================================
NEWS CORPORATION LTD. / FOX NETWORKS (Rupert Murdoch) (donations see bottom note)
Television Holdings:
* Fox Television: includes 22 stations, 50% of US households.
* Fox International: extensive worldwide cable and satellite networks include British Sky Broadcasting (40%); VOX, Germany (49.9%); Canal Fox, Latin America; FOXTEL, Australia (50%); STAR TV, Asia; IskyB, India; Bahasa Programming Ltd., Indonesia (50%); and News Broadcasting, Japan (80%).
* The Golf Channel (33%).
MEDIA HOLDINGS:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Fox Searchlight.
* 132 newspapers (113 in Australia alone) including the New York Post, the London Times and The Australian.
* 25 magazines including TV Guide and The Weekly Standard.
* HarperCollins books.
OTHER HOLDINGS:
* Sports: LA Dodgers, LA Kings, LA Lakers, National Rugby League.
* Ansett Australia airlines, Ansett New Zealand airlines.
* Rupert Murdoch: Board of Directors, Philip Morris (USA).

*(Phillip Morris donated 2.9 million to George W Bush in 2000)*


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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 03:52 PM
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5. I don't give a flying fuck about ratings at this point!
ANY audience needs to be informed about what is going on. Not everyone shows up at these boards to get, to the second information about what is really going on. They have to be informed and they will in turn, inform other people!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:05 PM
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7. I see, but trying to get CNN and MSNBC to change their stripes is like
trying to get milk from a duck. Ain't gonna happen.

At best they will pretend to be more balanced in an effort to save their efforts from being exposed as outright propaganda.

0.5% of the population can have CNN as far as I am concerned. If what they say on CNN pisses you off (in my opinion, it should) then turn on AAR or some other source.

Free speech doesn't mean forcing the other team to say what you want them to. It means having your own voice.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:19 PM
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8. It's not about trying to change the corporate news media
It's about getting thru the filter to the average everyday American! There is NO way at this point to change the media. That would require legislation in the form of the Media Act.

There are many seniors, people working 2 jobs and those that just despise politics that get their information from these corporate news channels. If they finally are able to hear people are organizing and saying things they have always felt then they too will come on board.
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:45 PM
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9. I try to make sure that people I meet know where to
find AAR locally and the BBC World News (not perfect but at least a sober presentation of facts) which is usually on a local PBS station. Likewise the Daily Show is a nice place to tune in a feel sane for a change.

I like and share your outrage though. Give em hell.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 04:59 PM
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10. give them hell my ass
This is going no fucking place! I really didn't expect anything more!

Wait till you hear the crying of the weak once these fuckheads get their way!

Crickets that is all we get here....... fucking cricket!
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KurtNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 11:26 AM
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12. I give you facts - you give me and DU personal attacks
blocking
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democrat_patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:18 PM
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11. EMail list from other post. Thanks DU!
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