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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:00 PM
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Could Kerry Get Canada Into Iraq?
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 05:03 PM by Village Idiot
If Senator John Kerry is elected, he has stated that he might attempt to solicit UN consensus in assembling a multi-national PeaceKeeping force to send to Iraq.

If such a force is to be assembled, Canada, Germany, France Russia, and a host of other nations would be asked to send troops to Iraq as part of a UN PeaceKeeping Force.

I believe that if Kerry could manage to get admissions from any other governments at this time ( this is the CRUX ) and endorsements ( tacit approval even - just an agreement that that it might be DISCUSSED would probably do it ) for a well thought out, well timed ( oh...let's say just after elections in January - perhaps during ) international effort, it would improve his public image tremendously. GWB couldn't do it, could John Forbes Kerry?

..........or have I had a little too much caffeine this afternoon? You be the judge........

Anybody got Paul Martin's phone number? It probably wouldn't hurt HIS career too much at this point in time either: It would be a boon to the newly elected Canadian Prime Minister, perhaps some counter-spin to a Canadian Liberal Party riddled with old scandals and a historically poor record with regards to recent Canada-US relations...hmmmmm......;^(>
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:07 PM
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1. Kerry could ...with conditions:
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 05:08 PM by Iceburg
- US acceptance of the ICC
- UN or Nato control over Iraq
- a well-defined peace plan for Iraq

The prime minister of Canada (JP Martin) is not in a position to make any unilateral decisions (we currently have a minority govenment). The balance of power is held by more leftist leaning MPs. They would demand that the above conditions are met.



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Village Idiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:25 PM
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5. If this were to happen
NOW, as opposed to 2003, these conditions may not apply, or may apply differently.

In any case, just an agreement for some dialogue might not hurt Kerry OR Martin...I wonder if Kerry sits on any NAFTA boards/commissions...might be a pretty plausible reason for a quiet word...;^(>


..............ya, it was probably too much caffeine.;^(>
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Nicholas_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:44 PM
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6. Canada Always
Edited on Tue Sep-21-04 05:45 PM by Nicholas_J
Tends to participate in things that have international approval through the United Nations. They generally do not have problems with taking part in anything sanctioned by the United Nations and in fact are one of the few Nations that goes out of its way to try to set the example of supporting and upholding internationalism.

I beleive that Canada has taken the place of Great Britain in being a superpower in its own right in one particular way. Canada has in a sense become the worlds ethical superpower, and tends to attempt to set an example in the international community using its military forces only in peacekeeing operations.

If Kerry can get the U.N. to come in, Canada wil be aomg the first to send troops and financial support to Iraq. Then Germany, then France.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:10 PM
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2. Sanctioned by the UN
and for peacekeeping and humanitarian work...yes.

Martin and Kerry would get along well.

Last time Martin met Bush, Bush favored him with a lecture on the Bible and Jesus....right before he made some remarks about how beautiful one of his male assistants was.

Left the Canadian delegation scratching their heads I can tell you.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:12 PM
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3. I would be very suprised, I see Canada is talking about a statue for draft
dodgers who went into Canada. One town, forgot the name.
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Maple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 05:14 PM
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4. Nelson BC
and yes, there will be a statue.

We didn't join the coalition to invade...but to help Iraqis out of the current mess, that would be a different matter.

No need to even ask Parliament about it.
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I_like_chicken Donating Member (341 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-21-04 06:01 PM
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7. The problem with this is it risks looking like
hes conspiring with countries to subvert democracy and illegally win the election, kinda like Nixon. I don't think this is necesarily true, but thats how it would appear. I personally think he should have started talking to these countries in an open manner to determine what it would take to get them to send troops or aid or whatever. He should act like hes already President.

but then again, if he accepted the terms, Bush could argue that, see hes weak, and hes gonna do whatever the French tell him to do. So maybe Kerry is doing the right thing now, who knows?
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 05:35 AM
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8. ... unprecedented incompetence by b%$h' -- that's what it looks like
The subhuman has had 4 years to "figger" out how do prosecute the war on terrorism and "it" has failed miserably. "It" has no credibility whatsoever in the world -- NONE - ZIPPO -- ZERO.

Just a reminder -- foreigners "thoughts" aren't counted on polling day. Trust me, if foreigners could vote -- it would be Kerry by a landslide.
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FlaIndie Donating Member (266 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 05:50 AM
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9. that's what the polls say
Nobody in the world wants Bush but a few countries like Poland (WTF? Must be because Bush urged for their NATO inclusion.)
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 06:15 AM
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10. Does Poland REALLY want Bush or ...
were they coerced? Not that it really matters. I know I wouldn't be boasting that I have Poland and Tonga on my team.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 06:24 AM
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11. Why would anyone want to drag a great country like Canada into
this clusterfuck.

Iraq is going to expel the infidels, and it doesn't matter which western country they are from.

Canada is not stupid.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 06:36 AM
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12. If you were Paul Martin, would you want to send your troops over there?
Even with President Kerry, there's no way Canada will send her servicemen and women over there. Plus, doing that would play right into Stephen Harper's hands, politically.
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