Obama should just provide his birth certificate to the American people

[Wetzelbill]

It would end all debate, obviously the man isn't an American citizen. Oh he did provide it? Oh there are digitized copies of the original at Factcheck.org? Hawaii officials have confirmed it's authenticity? And on and on and on?

Not good enough. Why? Just because!

I think Obama should mail the original to every American citizen so they can see it themselves. That is my proposal.

Come on Obama, what are you hiding from? A handful of insane inquiring minds want to know!!!!

Who? Well that guy on youtube who just replied to me and said Obama should provide his birth certificate because he doesn't believe he's a citizen, that's who! And I am sure that guy is both highly intelligent and stable and nonpartisan.



:banghead:

[Tiggeroshii]

1. I know, right???!

:hug:

[Wetzelbill]

6. I guess it is entertaining

Irritating, but somewhat funny that they would be stuck on it at this point.

[The_Casual_Observer]

2. You realize of course that this will go on for as long as he is president

It's like the Rose Law Firm and so on and so on...

[Wetzelbill]

4. oh at least that long

It was ridiculous from the beginning. I guess I've never gotten angry at anybody who thought that because it was so foolish, now it's devolved into full on whackjob land. I've always known that Republicans are authoritarian and they just won't believe certain things no matter how much evidence there is, but this is pretty goofy, lol.

[ecstatic]

3. Are you watching Rick Sanchez

with that RW tool who is saying Pres. Obama should bring up the BC thing live on air? I say FUCK THAT! The birthers are batshit insane and wouldn't be convinced if they were sent back in time to Obama's crib at the hospital in HI. F*ck them.

[Wetzelbill]

5. no I am not, I'll have to catch that

I'll look for the clip later. Yeah there is nothing that would convince some people. Nothing at all. I think, to an extent, that goes on all sides of any particular belief, but with people who identify with political conservatism it seems much worse.

[rvablue]

20. I read a Freeper comment on this

and they said something to the effect: "I won't believe it until I hold his BC and examine myself."

Is he supposed to put it on a bus tour so birfers can line up and examine it personally? Maybe it would be a good fundraiser? But, could the President risk marring his BC with so many Cheetos stains?

:rofl:

Like has been said many times in this thread: nothing will every satisfy these nuts. The BC "argument" is a veil for bigotry, plain and simple.

[demwing]

7. People are incredible morons

My daft father believes Obama was put into the Whitehouse by Chicago gangsters (How else do you explain it? he asks), and my aunt's "gentleman friend" thinks Obama will be assassinated by the Russians in order to fulfill Biblical prophesy. Both get angry when their ideas are challenged by facts and such.

I am confounded by the stupidity of the people to whom I am related.

[Wetzelbill]

9. oh no, I haven't heard that second one

lol

Most of my family consists of Dems. I am an American Indian and most Indians are typically Dem. I think we have a few Repubs here and there, probably do, but I can't think of anyone blatantly ideological or anything.

[Adelante]

8. You mean you haven't received it yet?

That damned post office.

[Wetzelbill]

10. Well my last name begins with a "W" so I'm probably low on the mailing list

if they are doing it in alphabetical order. Also the post office is socialist, so I don't trust them anyway.

[OwnedByFerrets]

11. Its that damned "socialist" post office, I tell ya.

:rofl:

[Sparkly]

24. Government-run mail.

What next? Government-run government?

[RBInMaine]

12. Are you actually dignifying this horseshit? Please !

[JamesA1102]

13. Here is is

[dionysus]

15. never knew he was a jr.....

[jberryhill]

23. No... It says "IL" in a typefont that looks like "II"

He's related to Kim Jong IL!

Shit!

[KatyaR]

26. I never noticed this before--

is "African" really considered a classification of race? Or maybe it was back then?

[csziggy]

32. Maybe they put "African" since that was his father's nationality?

[jberryhill]

36. Didn't know that was a nation...

The things I learn on DU...

[csziggy]

41. D'oh! I shoulda know better. May I plead tiredness? n/t

[GOTV]

50. As I heard it, they ask the father his race, and they enter what ever the father says ...

... if the father said he was martian, they'd write martian.

[jberryhill]

35. It's whatever people self-identify as....

Hawaii was distinctly multi-racial - even in 1961.

His father, of course, was African.

[jehovas_waitress]

44. I guess it's like saying "American" that is--

The Americas consisting of North America, Central America and South America. Some people from South American countries object to people from the United States calling themselves "American" as opposed to a a "citizen of the United States".

[jberryhill]

47. Given BHO Sr.'s outlook...

...it is quite natural that he would identify as "African", as the early 1960's, as that was consistent with the emergence of independent African states, unity movements, and so forth.

[windbreeze]

42. can you tell me how to get that jpg?

there's a site that I visit..and of course there are birther nuts on there that drive me insane...I want to be able to post this there...thanx for help...wb

[dionysus]

14. somebody's sore his campaign with kurovski went up in smoke after "yak-gate"

:)

[Life Long Dem]

16. In America, anybody can be president.

That's one of the risks you take. Besides it's not about Obama. :-)

[Lemonwurst]

17. No need. This is solid gold, this craziness...

Honestly... I love this birther thing.

While the grown-ups quietly work out economic issues, restore our standing in the world, etc. - these loonies will fry their brains out over this. This will even stink up the quiet, otherwise known-to-locals-only Repubs (i.e. Rep. Castle). It also can work like a electromagnet for the RW talk radio and TV pundits, who won't be able to get too far away from it - even when they want to.

In other words, the hardcore 20-%'ers may never get beyond this birther bubble to snipe at the real issues, and that's a good thing. Pres. Obama never needs to acknowledge them - of course not, and he knows that.

I say, feed their insanity. Do that eBay thing, inviting bids for a copy of his "authentic" Kenyan birth certificate. Send your crazy relatives into an amusing froth by saying, hey - I read in his books that he was potty-trained in Kenya, or some such nonsense.

Ride this for all it's worth, folks. Pure gold, this is. If the R's figure they can wash their hands of these crazies in the run-up for 2010 and 2012, let's help make sure they CAN'T !!

[stevenleser]

33. I'm with you. Use up the bandwidth of the right wing nuts on this

and they cant concentrate their craziness on stuff that matters.

[CakeGrrl]

18. Let 'em go further into the fringe...

...so long as the Secret Service protection is good and solid.

[marshall]

19. Is that the same youtube guy who claims he gave Obama a blowjob?

Guy's gotta make a living, I guess, by drumming up hits for his website.

[Hello_Kitty]

21. Tweets is holding it up on MSNBC right now. eom

[jberryhill]

22. Well If Someone On The Internet Is Crazy

That would be news.

[wowimthere]

25. this debate is over. Obama has provided all of the proof right down to a blurb in the newspaper on

the day of his birth. No matter what he does... there are some who just don't believe he is a citizen. Let the crazies just keep hitting their heads against a brick one.

[Mopar151]

27. I know how to stop the whole thing.

Start a rumor that "teh gubbament" is going to seize birther/bagger/nutjob mailing lists to start conscripting for the re-education camps!

(Would that it were true, cuz the skeezy little shits need it.....)

[Politicalboi]

28. Nothing will ever convince them

Can't even convince a crazy lady.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/snls-crazy-mccain-rally-l_n_135463.html

[gauguin57]

29. Remember: If the birthers are busy with this crap, they're not actively reproducing.

The fewer Baby Birthers they bring into the world, the better for us (and our children and our children's children)

[Phx_Dem]

30. Fuck no! Appeasing the nutjobs is not his job.

[DCBob]

31. It's a gift. The nutjobs will be chasing their tails on this until 2016.

It makes the Repubs look even stupider and keeps their simple minds busy so they do less mischief.

[jenmito]

34. Chris Matthews held it up for the world to see on Hardball tonight. n/t

[Perky]

37. Do you actually think for a milliseconf that the controversy would die?

[Wetzelbill]

38. nope

That's why I made a sarcastic post. :)

[justiceischeap]

39. Put it in a glass case next to the Declaration of Independence

Then the birthers can travel to DC to see for themselves that he's a native born citizen of the US.

[backscatter712]

40. The voters make the final decision as to the eligibility of a President.

In other words, we had an election. Barack Obama won. In other words, the majority of voters decided he was indeed eligible to be President, and gave him the job.

The birthers can suck it!

[windbreeze]

43. Hasn't he already done so???

Why should he have to in the first place...for crying out loud..do we really believe anyone would have allowed him to become a Senator, and President if he wasn't an American?? You know...I want to know who's continuing to force this issue...I want to know who's funding all the frivolous court cases...I want to know what their agenda is...and WHY we keep allowing OUR PRESIDENT to be undercut and undermined like this?? The damned birth certificate has been verified by the Dept.of Vital Statistics in Hawaii...They have stated there is NO WAY it could have been falsified...yet...NOTHING IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR SOME PEOPLE...it states right on the bottom that it, as it is, would stand up in a court of law...the longer this goes on...the more I see it as nothing more than blatant RACISM...There were those who stated...they would NEVER accept a "black" man as president of this country...are THEY the ones behind this BS? because obviously someone is.....IMO...it's time to start fining or filing charges on the ones who keep perpetrating this...let's start with Alan Keyes, shall we??....wb..

[Rosa Luxemburg]

49. During the 2008 election he provided his Hawaiian birth certificate

it IS legal and verified.

[jberryhill]

45. One Kenyan Birth Certificate, Coming Up...

[Wetzelbill]

46. I bet birthers would believe that

certainly over his real one, lol.

[LoKnLoD]

51. Thanks for the laugh...

Thanks for the laugh...I about fell off my chair! :applause:

[windbreeze]

53. Wait, wait...isn't it spelled Muslin? you gotta get that right...

July 11, 1961?? LOL...wb

[Bankhead_ATL]

48. NO he should not...Sometimes I think America doesn't deserve Obama

[Orsino]

52. Yeah? Who's gonna pay for 330 million photocopies, Mister Smart Guy?

And all that postage?

[Wetzelbill]

58. oh no, he has to send the original to everybody

That's the only way that makes sense. :think:

[Orsino]

61. And I suppose you want some government bureaucrat...

...telling you when it's your turn?

[Wetzelbill]

62. I would just farm it out to the private sector

Give the contract to Halliburton, I think they could handle a national security issue like that.

[johnaries]

54. I saw one FReeper comment that it wasn't a Birth Certificate,

it was a Live Certificate of Birth. :rofl:

[TrogL]

55. They make a distinction between "official" and "original"

The problem is, that the "original" isn't valid for any useful purpose. The only valid BC is the "official" one, a copy of which appears above.

[Wetzelbill]

59. oh no!

lol

[Ozymanithrax]

56. Nothing will please the crazies...

A certifcate of birth was provided...
So they ask for the "Long Form."

It President obama whips his "Long Form" out, they will simply say it is a forgery.

It ain't his birth they are complaing about. It is his very existence.

[polmaven]

57. You left out one very important word.

A handful of insane racist inquiring minds want to know!!!!

I truly believe that is what most of this is about.

[Wetzelbill]

60. it's that he's different in the first place

It freaks them out. They see a black guy with Kenyan ancestry, born in Hawaii and alarms go off. I think race is a factor, but probably just xenophobia in general. Fear of the exotic. They fear that he's Muslim. They just can't take that. They couldn't take Bill Clinton either, but they found other ways to go about that. Obama is black so they zero in on that, he has a funny name so he must be a Muslim and we all know they are all terrorists. He's from Hawaii, well that's practically a different country. It take a small person to be so riddled with fear and the GOP is filled with lots of little people.

[Rebubula]

63. Suck it up, assholes

Your guy lost.

I mean we had a stolen election in 2000 - you lost fair and fucking square