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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:28 AM
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David Gregory logic on the current state of the economy.
Gregory: The economy is getting better, but the job market still sucks; why won't you admit that the stimulus didn't work?

Summers: The stimulus will eventually save or create millions of jobs.

Gregory: But why not stop the stimulus now to save the defecit?

Summers: Because the job losses have been more than we thought.

Gregory: But since you misread the impact of the short term stimulus, why not stop the stimulus now to work on the defecit.

Summers: Because we still need to create jobs.

Gregory: But since it's obvious you couldn't predict how bad the economy would be, doesn't that mean you should stop the stimulus?

Summers: The stimulus will save or create millions of jobs over the next few years.

Gregory: But since you won't commit to telling us that it will save 3-4 millions jobs, shouldn't you stop it now?

Summers: (shoots himself in the head)

Why did I decide to watch this disaster of a show?
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:29 AM
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1. I sometimes miss Timmy...
well---not really but Gregory aint much better.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:28 PM
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27. Gregory is no better than Timmy. He is worse.
I don't think even Timmy would have sucked up to that creep Gov. Sanford like Gregory did.

Gregory is a younger version of David Broder: Inside the beltway, and totally out of touch.
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Medusa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:31 AM
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2. Why does anyone watch these shows?
They are corporate owned bitches of their corporate masters and deliver the talking points that they want us to hear. NBC-Universal-GE is a major defense contractor. Obama wants to scale back the troops and the war. Think the corporate bosses are happy about that? Do they want to discredit Obama? Do the math people, do the math.
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:35 AM
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3. Lunatic Malkin is on the This Week roundtable. Unreal.
she's apparently hawking a book.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:39 AM
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5. Her face is appearing all over the place on the tee vee these days...
She's a shill for the birthers, Rethuglicans.

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:55 PM
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31. Actually..she's just a mediawhore
shill..but, not for birthers. Or so I've read on DU.
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JayMusgrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:38 AM
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4. David Gregory is a dunce. Also known as a closet
Republican.

He can't be objective, by definition.
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Gman2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 12:47 PM
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17. When that cupcake said it wasnt the media's job to ask the hard questions,
I knew he said it to get the job. And he did. He showed a willingness to sell his soul. To do the bidding of the highest bidder.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:40 AM
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6. Stupid is
as stupid goes:spank:
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Phx_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:41 AM
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7. Gregory thinks being a "tough" interviewer is the same as being
a combative asshole. It's not, as Russert understood very well.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:43 AM
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8. He starts out by saying "The criticism of this administration is...."
He also gives LS an opportunity to ANSWER, unlike Russert, who would have interrupted him twenty times already, completely derailed his argument, and not allowed him to finish.

I really don't know WTF people want. If he asked LS to join him in a chorus of "Everything's coming up roses" would that make people happy? He's SUPPOSED to be adversarial in his interviews. If the interviewee says LEFT, he's gotta say RIGHT. AND vice-versa--otherwise there will be no interview.

He's at least not a fucking water-carrying asshole like Russert was, Russert used to ask the GOP for "progress reports" and eviscerate the Democrats.

People who think the LS interview was "tough" need to get perspective. Go rewatch it with a stopwatch, and figure out who was doing MOST of the talking (hint--it wasn't DG).

Gregory's not so bad. Former President Chirac sure doesn't think so.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 01:34 PM
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18. He said that the jobless rate is to high, and then implied that the stimulus should be stopped.
That makes no sense. And, he kept asking it.

I don't care who talks more. I care if the interviewer continues to ask the same stupid question over and over again.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 01:42 PM
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19. Every frigging point he made was a SOFTBALL. If you actually think Summers
had trouble with a single one of those easy pitches, I've got a bridge to sell you, for cheap.

That was the FRIENDLIEST administration interview I have seen since Timmy clutched the pearls. Gregory gave Summers a platform to make his points, he asked questions that Summers was able to refute without breaking a sweat, and Summers did exactly that.

Sheesh. I can't believe you don't "get" how it works. What did you want him to ask? Something on these lines?

    Obama--is he great, or is he the GREATEST?

    Larry, tell us--how cute is Michelle? Are those arms still looking fine?

    Say Lar, have they taught the dog to scratch when he needs to poop outside?

    What are the girls' favorite toys? Malibu Barbie, or the Mylie Cyrus karaoke machine?



I mean, really.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 06:22 PM
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20. Where did imply that Summers had trouble with any one of those questions?
Are you replying to the right OP?

He asked the same question over and over again. That's not what I, or anyone else, should expect.

Unlike you, I don't want softballs.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 06:31 PM
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21. And if he did NOT have trouble, then Gregory was DOING HIM A FAVOR.
He was providing him with a PLATFORM to put forth his points. Yes, I'm replying to the right post, but plainly I am replying to someone who doesn't get how the Sunday Talk game is played. :eyes:

If you don't want Democrats to be handed softballs along with an opportunity to articulate and publicize the President's agenda in an, if not friendly, noise-free environment where sentences are finished and ideas stated clearly and concisely, you may have taken a wrong fucking turn.

DG did Summers a huge favor and handed him a huge slice of prime Sunday morning pie.

Only a permanent, anti-DG scold or someone who doesn't get the process cannot see that.
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mother earth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 09:46 AM
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9. He was much better as Rove's rap 'n dance partner than he will
ever be in his day job...and BTW both he and Rove sucked, except for the laughs at looking at two buffoons in action. I just cannot stomach Gregory...can't do it.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:00 AM
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10. What did Larry say at one point - he called out DG - he said he was misstating or misinforming or
something like that. So then Gregory later wanted him say that he didn't really mean it. Larry did mean it and you are David (I always want to say Dick instead of David :)).
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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:03 AM
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11. Well, as bad as Gregory was, it had a positive reaction. Summers was surprisingly good and feisty
Edited on Sun Aug-02-09 10:06 AM by Mass
I watched Geithner before him and he was lousy.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 06:35 PM
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22. Gregory wasn't bad at all. If it had been Russert, he would have interrupted every ten seconds,
changed the subject five times, not allowed Summers to finish a single thought or idea, torn off Summers' head and shit down his windpipe, and then said with a huff, "Well, it's plain that George Bush would have had a better idea. I don't think this will EVER work...."

I don't get the people who are objecting to DG playing (weakly, really) the Devil's Advocate, while giving Summers a HUGE chunk of Morning Talk Show Real Estate in a pretty much uninterrupted fashion.

Some people just don't get it.

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Mass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:02 PM
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24. You're entitled to your opinion. In fact, Summers had to cut Gregory a couple of times to
Edited on Sun Aug-02-09 07:03 PM by Mass
finish answering. And, even if I did not like Russert, he was trying to look balanced. Gregory is so nice each time he gets a RW on his show. He does not even pretend to be tough.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:09 PM
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26. DG pretty much handed Summers the microphone. He played it
up maybe twice, but shut up immediately, like it was for show; pre-established.

Compare and contrast with ANY footage of Russert interviewing ANY Democrat.

And then compare and contrast with Russert FAWNING all over any member of the GOP.

The difference is like night and day. Of course, some people just like to gripe, and there's nothing to be done. DG gets an A from me, not the least because of his performances in the Rose Garden and his "out of the park" question to President Chirac that caused Porgie to have a melt-down.

If YMMV, so be it. I just cannot even begin to agree with the DG haters here. They just don't get it.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:29 AM
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12. "shoots himself in the head"
:spray:

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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:41 AM
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13. David Wilkinson-Gregory is the epitome of a corporate whore.
:thumbsdown:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:45 AM
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14. "Why did I decide to watch this disaster of a show?"
Pretty much mirrors my thoughts each of (the two) times I've watched it since the turn of the century.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 10:56 AM
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15. Why, oh why, do I subject myself to Press the Meet?
Have you stopped beating your wife yet, David Gregory?
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chieftain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:39 AM
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16. David Gregory logic is an oxymoron.
And Gregory is the moron.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 06:37 PM
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23. Lurch only knows how to dance like an idiot with Karl Rove, he is not programmed for anything else.
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:07 PM
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25. Gregwhorey's Only Goal
is to her himself speak. He is a puffed up little prick.
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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:29 PM
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28. david "the Tool" gregory. nt
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 07:32 PM
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29. Employment is a LAGGING INDICATOR, you moronic media twit.
:banghead:
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 08:23 PM
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30. The reason Gregory is horrible is he's a part of DC M$M group think, he's stuck on stupid
...and can't help himself
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blossomstar Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-02-09 11:23 PM
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32. Let's don't forget Gregory/KKKarl Rove
whooped it up together a while back. Something about KR and rapping? It was unreal and left you feeling all creepy. Gregory was all about Rove. Disgusting.
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nyc 4 Biden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:01 AM
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33. David Gregory should hide his contempt for Obama a little better.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/32258039#32258039

Fast forward to 3:14 where Gregory compares Clinton's and Obama's approval ratings regarding healthcare.

Is it just me or is Gregory ecstatic at the fact that he thinks he's proven Obama has lost public support for healthcare reform.

Here's a transcript of the exchange...

MR. GREGORY: But, but Congressman Ford, are we making real progress here? You talk about health care, it's becoming less popular in the public's eyes. And look at this from our poll, handling of health care in terms of job approval overall, president is at 41 percent in July of '09. Look where Bill Clinton was at, 43 percent in June of 1994. That's not a place where the White House wants to be on health care.

FMR. REP. FORD: Probably not. But the president made clear from the outset of this debate about health care, he wanted to accomplish three things: one, expand coverage; two, control costs; and, three, pay for it. And you have to applaud him for that.

Here is Gregory's delight with himself after his delivery of the poll numbers.



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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-03-09 11:41 AM
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34. "but the job market still sucks" Hey I'm a plain spoken as anyone else
and this is going to sound "stuck up". But I think I would expect grown up language from a supposed anchor. Did he call him dude afterward?
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