Maybe it's me, but I think there's another shoe to drop re: CBS memos.

[MallRat]

It's just a vibe I'm getting. I hope I'm right.

CBS's retraction on the authenticity of the memo is rather curious for two reasons.

1. Burkett is being interviewed for tonight's CBS Evening News. Says the AP report about the revelation,

"CBS said Burkett acknowledged he provided the documents and said he deliberately misled a CBS producer, giving her a false account of their origin to protect a promise of confidentiality to a source."

Hmmm.

2. The other interesting angle on this is that CBS has chosen the single most damaging point in the news cycle to make this announcement. Why?

Andy Heyward isn't stupid. CBS's attorneys and PR office weren't born yesterday. If you have some this embarrassing to reveal, you do what the White House does: you dump it on a late Friday afternoon, and the story dies a quiet, whimpering death on the Sunday morning news shows. By making this retraction on a Monday morning, CBS has essentially guaranteed that this story is going to be teed up for the next two days, if not the ENTIRE FUCKING WEEK. (This, of course, sure as hell doesn't help Kerry's visibility).

So why would CBS choose THIS DAY, of all the days in the week, to admit their error?

My guess: THERE'S MORE TO THIS STORY.


Think good thoughts, people.

-MR

[mourningdove92]

1. I agree. The interview tonight has me curious.

Maybe the original source or the original documents will be revealed? I guess we will just have to wait, but it does not make sense to have him on tonight unless he has something substantial to say.

[sam sarrha]

2. On the program they already admitted it was a fake copy ..but was real in

its content .. they even had the woman who would have written it..say it was fake.. but the content was true because she was the secretary that would have written it.. and the content was true.. only the form was fake...

THUS, there is NO REVELATION, the authenticity has been already been determined as an invalid copy. On the program that revealed it .. the program was about the invalid form..period

what is so new about the REVELATION ??? no big deal:shrug:

[ClassWarrior]

3. Mrs. Knox never said they were fake.

Just that she never typed them.

The only way to definitively prove them fake is by proving the contents false.

23.

[jean]

17. Mrs Knox did say the memos contained Army language, not AF

lingo.

[ClassWarrior]

19. True. But she still didn't say they were forged.

23.

[jean]

21. I know - after hearing her we came away feeling like someone had

access to the original memos and re-typed them for whatever reason. Someone who used Army lingo.

[ClassWarrior]

23. Yup. But I still haven't figured out what Army lingo means.

[ScreamingMeemie]

4. I wish that I could have that faith anymore.

The truth gets suppressed on a daily basis in the media; it's making me want to vomit. I think it's up to us to get the message out...to disrobe once and for all this fake emperor.

[Nederland]

5. Wishful Thinking

My hope at this point is that the story just go away.

[Lex]

7. The story will NOT go away. That is the wishful thinking. n/t

[Nederland]

8. Sad but probably true (nt)

[ClassWarrior]

10. That's right. It's not us who are keeping it alive.

It's the RW corporate media.

We knew this was going to get dirty. Either we stand and fight or put on our pink tutus and move on. I vote for "stand and fight."

The only way to prove the memos fake is by proving the contents false.

23.

[geek tragedy]

6. The other shoe is up Dan Rather's ass. n/t

[John_H]

9. My thoughts exactly. A colleague and looked at each other and said

almost in unison, "Why the fuck would they do this on Monday morning?" Not to mention first leaking it to the the NYT times to pump it.

Do they know where Burkett got the docs? Is the GOP statement blaming the dems typical GOP PR--preemptively accusing your opponent of doing exactly what you are doing?

I'm with MallRat. Same bat time. Same bat channel.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

11. Needs to exlpain "unimpeachable" source

He says now he has doubt. Why did he use that word?

[Indiana_Dem]

12. I don't know if it's a vibe or just a hope

but I just can't believe Rather would put himself out on a limb like that without having some serious imformation to reveal. If he doesn't have anything other than this I won't have lost faith in him, I will have lost faith in all those around him who work to help make him a success. If there is nothing else, I believe he may have been set up. Still, I can't believe he would allow his credibility to be dismantled after all these years of experience! I do admire him still for submitting possible evidence and just presenting facts when no other form of mainstream media has done such a thing. All he's done is raise questions about Bush's service.

We need GW's medical records. That would settle it.

The facts remain that the president used his father's influence to place him in the NG and he was moved around in order to campaign instead of serving, and also that he was suspended from flying for some unknown reason. Leads one to lots of questions regarding character.

So I remain in hope that truth will prevail. If it doesn't, I will have lost all hope for our country.

[joanski01]

13. I heard someone vouching for

Dan Rather today. I don't know who he was, just someone who said he knows and I think worked under Dan. He says one thing Dan is, is honest. Also, he said the real story was WHO duped Dan Rather. So, I for one, hope the story won't die.

[saracat]

15. "unimpeachable source" is the WH !

[AmyStrange]

14. Maybe because this friday is the deadline...

for the WH to release ALL docs related to *'s TANG service via a Judge's order concerning the AP FOIA suit,

d

[starroute]

16. The "forgery" story just isn't adding up

I've stared at those documents and compared them to everything I can get my hands on, and there is no way they could have been faked using a computer. The only way they could have been produced is on a forty year old typewriter of a model that was rare then and would be almost impossible to get ahold of now.

If I wanted to fake something like that, I'd haul my old manual Olympia (the same brand Marian Knox used) with its standard Courier font up from the basement and buy it a new ribbon. Even if I could, I certainly wouldn't use a typewriter of a style so distinctive it was bound to call attention to itself.

I can only see two explanations for those memoes. One is that the Rove dirty tricks machine deliberately concocted them as a trap, going to an inordinate amount of effort to try to make them convincing yet easily debunked. (Far more effort than was put into those Niger uranium documents that we started a bloody war over.) In that case there is still hope it will be traced back and blow up in their faces.

The other is that they are exactly what they seem to be and that the only thing questionable about them is their ultimate source.

[Dr Fate]

18. I wonder if Rather is smart enough to do that.

I've been fantasising about this too- but I doubt Rather is smart enough to lure the GOP & media this far into a trap. It would be great though.

No matter what, I think the story actually does hurt Bush at this point.

[JohnnyCougar]

20. Even if they don't find the source...

Rather still has one argument to pursue:

Why didn't the White House question their authenticity right away? If the content was fake, it would have taken them 2 seconds to realize that they were fake. But instead, the WH whined that 3 HOURS weren't enough!!! If all else fails, Rather can still push this meme.

[seabeyond]

22. rather needs to say dems arent involved

he started this mess, he is covering his butt, kerry has nothing to do with it, repugs are pointing finger falsely at kerry and reporting it, he needs to stand up and speak out