"Our troops deserve better than Kerry's campaign pushing pessimism"

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That is Bush's campaign spokesman Scott Stanzel's take on Kerry's remarks. http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/1095693603

Kerry's not the only one pessimistic about Iraq, nor the first. In fact, Kerry's statements coincide with the revelation of a JUNE intelligence estimate from his own National Intelligence Council that offers the bleakest assessment of our involvement there and the dangerous implications for the future, including the prospect of a civil war and delayed elections.


Report offers bleak outlook for Iraq

http://www.dailysouthtown.com/southtown/dsnews/169nd2.htm

WASHINGTON (AP) — A highly classified National Intelligence Estimate assembled by some of the government's most senior analysts this summer provided a pessimistic assessment about the future security and stability of Iraq.

The National Intelligence Council looked at the political, economic and security situation in the war-torn country and determined — at best — the situation would be tenuous in terms of stability, a U.S. official said late Wednesday, speaking on the condition of anonymity.

At worst, the official said, were "trend lines that would point to a civil war."

The assessment was initiated by the National Intelligence Council, a group of senior intelligence officials who provide long-term strategic thinking for the entire U.S. intelligence community but report to the director of central intelligence. It was completed under acting CIA Director John McLaughlin. He and the leaders of the other intelligence agencies approved it.


Our main ally in the war recieved and covered up his own 'secret' report that outlined the disasterous course of events growing out of our occupation.

Blair was warned of inevitable Iraq chaos
By Michael Smith in London

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/09/19/1095532178385.html?oneclick=true

The British Prime Minister, Tony Blair, was warned a year before invading Iraq that a stable postwar government would be impossible without keeping large numbers of troops there for "many years", secret British Government papers reveal.

The documents show grave reservations expressed by the Foreign Secretary, Jack Straw, over the consequences of a second Gulf war and how presciently his Foreign Office officials predicted the ensuing chaos.

The documents warned Mr Blair that there was a risk of the Iraqi system "reverting to type" after a war, with a future government acquiring the very weapons of mass destruction that an attack would be designed to remove.

The documents show that British officials believed that President George Bush merely wanted to complete his father's "unfinished business" in a "grudge match" against Saddam Hussein.

As Jesus was said to have preached to the people of Nazareth: Physician, heal thyself

[NewYorkerfromMass]

1. The troops are doing as good a job as they can

in a very fucked up situation created by Bush.

[bigtree]

4. Sorry. I missed the attribution of the quote

fixed. Geez, I made it look like I said that crap. :dunce:

[jedicord]

2. Our troops deserve better than to be sent to a war for illegal reasons.

For Gawd's sake!

[democrat in Tallahassee]

3. our troops deserve better than W's lies

[istruthfull]

5. understand

I understand what you are saying but still believe that bush went to Iraq for oil and nothing else. I think that bush doesn't give a damn about how many people die for him to make money.
Kerry, if elected will have us out of there with 4 years with the United Nations help. Iraq will have somewhat of a stable government, the only stable government they ever will have is a Dictatorship. These are people who will cut your hand off for stealing a slice of bread.

[bigtree]

7. I'm with you istruthfull.

And he went to satisfy the wishes of the neocons who bought his presidency who had nursed their ambitions in exile, waiting for the next conservative presidential patron to further their desire to dominate that region for greed and power.

Sorry if I made it look like the 'pessimism' statement is my view.

[LittleClarkie]

6. How did that highly classified document get out?

I missed that part. Leaked or just released?

I ask only because I wonder how much the intelligence community is behind Bush after one of their own was outted by his people.

[democratreformed]

8. Our troops deserve realism.

The kind of realism that admits when things are wrong and takes steps to fix them. They do not deserve to be part of some person's fantasy where an idiot far from the situation pretends everything is peachy. Pretending things are peachy and continuing down the wrong path causes them much more harm than good.

I can see the parallels here where I work. The management has been doing the same old tired things for three years too. We won't last too much longer.

[Dem Agog]

9. Our Troops Deserve to Have Reality Acknowledged

The hell that they are going through in the quagmire murder-fest that Baghdad Bush organized is being glossed over by their CiC. They deserve more than a Vietnam-dodging skunk telling them that 2 + 2 = 5. Our troops deserve a President who will acknowledge the truth about the situation for which they are giving their lives.

[Gloria]

10. One retort should be: THIS IS REALITY and BUSH should

face it and stop fantasizing and lying to the American people. Has he read his own intelligence reports?

[Julien Sorel]

11. The pessimism line is going to wear thin.

Criticism of the economy is pessimism. Criticism of the Iraq adventure is pessimism.

I wonder if he's going to try to trot this out in debates. It's a one line zinger waiting to happen.

[The empressof all]

12. Our troops deserve the truth -not Candy coated lies

I remember a friend of my fathers telling me that before he landed at Normandy during WWII they were told they were entering the battle of their lives. They were told the enemy was strong and would fight back hard. They were not lied to. They knew what to expect. It is nothing short of irresponsible for our troops to be told they would be greeted with flowers and cheers when they entered into Iraq. It is nothing short of irresponsible to have them make wills then tell them they are there in Iraq to secure the Peace.

It's time for the Bush administration to treat our troops as the adult men and women that they are not ignorant lackeys for their lies.