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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:10 PM
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Why We Cannot Win...it's Guerilla Warfare
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig5/lorentz1.html

Before I begin, let me state that I am a soldier currently deployed in Iraq, I am not an armchair quarterback. Nor am I some politically idealistic and naïve young soldier, I am an old and seasoned Non-Commissioned Officer with nearly 20 years under my belt. Additionally, I am not just a soldier with a muds-eye view of the war, I am in Civil Affairs and as such, it is my job to be aware of all the events occurring in this country and specifically in my region.

I have come to the conclusion that we cannot win here for a number of reasons. Ideology and idealism will never trump history and reality.

When we were preparing to deploy, I told my young soldiers to beware of the "political solution." Just when you think you have the situation on the ground in hand, someone will come along with a political directive that throws you off the tracks.

I believe that we could have won this un-Constitutional invasion of Iraq and possibly pulled off the even more un-Constitutional occupation and subjugation of this sovereign nation. It might have even been possible to foist democracy on these people who seem to have no desire, understanding or respect for such an institution. True the possibility of pulling all this off was a long shot and would have required several hundred billion dollars and even more casualties than we’ve seen to date but again it would have been possible, not realistic or necessary but possible.

Here are the specific reasons why we cannot win in Iraq.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:11 PM
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1. Sounds like most troops there think
Fuck it. Let's go home.
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Droopy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:14 PM
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2. I am in total agreement with that sentiment. n/t
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necso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:14 PM
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3. !
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Drifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:15 PM
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4. I wonder if ...
The Brits were lied to and encouraged to "Stay the Course" during the American Revolution.

Cheers
Drifter
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:16 PM
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5. "Oh, no it's not another Viet Nam!"
"People just have to trust Dubya and it will all be okay!"

Give me a f-ing break.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:17 PM
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6. We fucked those people good. Shame on us. :( n/t
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 03:23 PM
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7. The sequel
To "Miss Saigon" will be "Miss Bagdad".

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