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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:13 PM Original message |
Obama sits down at the the table with Corporate America, gives them our public schools |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. You, and WaPo? There's a winning combo. How else can you |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Do you have children? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:15 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. If she ever does comment on subject matter, you should mark the calendar and alert the media. n/t |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:34 AM Response to Reply #3 |
30. Yes, grown kids, and grandkids, some who are being home-schooled. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #30 |
75. Why are you always attacking DU'ers and now the school teachers. |
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Clintonista2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 03:54 PM Response to Reply #75 |
134. Because she has nothing of value to add |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #75 |
139. Its very sad the DU members can not have a civil discussion without |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:55 AM Original message |
+1 |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
100. the NEA? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. On the New & Improved DU, unions are very, very bad. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:13 AM Response to Reply #101 |
110. it's been kind of fascinating |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Well, "fascinating" is one way to describe it. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #112 |
115. it's almost like this... |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:31 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. More like this. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:34 PM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Yup (nt) |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #101 |
123. Supporting labor does not mean assuming all unions are unselfish, benevolent organizations. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
61. Charter schools are PUBLIC schools, but attaching teacher evaluation to standardized test results is |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #61 |
88. Public School Money without The Accountability |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Where is there no "accountability" ? Graduation rates? College-acceptance rates? SAT scores? |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. I will home school before I send my child to |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. I will send my child to a charter school before I home school. |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Public schools don't have "trained, professional" teachers? |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:11 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Public schools often have some "trained, professional" teachers, too. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. "how would you know how teachers teach inside...a charter or magnet " You're against magnet schools? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:07 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. I never said I was against magnet schools |
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goclark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #32 |
81. I was actively involved in Education for many years |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #81 |
138. Assuaging the fears of parents about urban settings is important |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
19. So, please tell me how a charter school |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
20. "Changing over to a system that is not designed to work everywhere"... |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. "Students and superiors can fire bad apples" |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:46 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Dont be a tool |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. There were a couple of teachers from my high school easily fired for some things |
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Egnever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. My wife isn't in the union |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
52. You weren't taught logical fallacies? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
125. And here come the "teachers can do no wrong" sycophants. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 01:21 AM Response to Reply #20 |
69. Then it's different all over - |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:02 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Great question at the end of your post. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
124. +1 |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
4. Kick - rec'd earlier.... |
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texastoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
5. This is wrong |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
6. Well, I tried to recommend, but it stays below zero. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. I'm going to continue to kick - with me? |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That's because, in addition to a lot of naive cheerleaders, the DLC/K-Street crowd work this site |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. Deleted message |
madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:53 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. That's a good article about who benefits from charter schools here. |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Chicago has had some success, and do need accountability for charters. Duncan wants more power to |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. How much are the professional posters being paid? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
127. Got any proof of your accusations? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 11:27 AM Response to Reply #9 |
79. paranoia... thinking people are paid to post here, you have it |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
90. brentspeaks For Me |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #6 |
24. Many people around here hold teachers in contempt, |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:49 PM Response to Reply #24 |
91. DUzy, |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:51 AM Response to Reply #91 |
102. I've gotten them before, but that post certainly won't get one. |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
8. K and R. The administration's approach on education |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
10. Kicking for content |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. "Attacks"? From the NEA statement |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-21-09 11:44 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Deleted sub-thread |
paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:34 AM Response to Reply #12 |
38. it is an attack |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. "It states that the Administration's goals are admirable but it's solutions are not." |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:43 AM Response to Reply #39 |
44. oh, ok |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #12 |
56. Clearly the NEA is in bed with the the Man. |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. The stimulus saved billions for schools that would have been slashed in state budget cuts |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Stimulus dollars for education are tied |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. +1 |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #49 |
103. +2 |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
22. Teachers don't like performance-related plans. So....what is THEIR plan to |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 09:23 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. "Performance-related programs are the only way to go" |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:49 AM Response to Reply #28 |
40. To improve education, or at least the part dealing with the instructors, |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Teachers do get evaluated. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
72. Good. Then teachers are okay with an education improvement plan based on evaluations? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:45 AM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Teachers are already evaluated. What most teachers do not want |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 09:07 AM Response to Reply #73 |
74. The plan isn't stated to be that. The article says the NEA doesn't want performance |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. "Performance based plan," in practice, generally means test scores. |
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MarjorieG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #28 |
59. Was clear that performance wouldn't always be tests, but include other opinions/factors. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. Teachers are constantly evaluated by everyone in the system. |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
62. You are entirely ignorant. There are all kinds of "plans" all over the place. Here's some education |
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RBInMaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. How about mandating LAZY, DYSFUNCTIONAL, INEFFECTIVE PARENTS to make their |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. +1 |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #70 |
108. +2 |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:54 PM Response to Reply #63 |
129. Gee, maybe those parents work 2.5 jobs and don't have the fucking time? |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 06:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
141. WOW!!! What will you think of next????? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
82. Nice of you to ask. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #82 |
92. And don't forget this one. The teacher comments at ED.gov offer... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 10:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Thanks for reminding me. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. I know you do... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #96 |
116. I Have One Too |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 06:37 PM Response to Reply #116 |
121. I read yours. It was very... |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #82 |
109. Excellent, As Always |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
128. Many of these same posters were rightfully attacking cops sticking up for bad cops... |
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d_r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
25. question |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Not around here. Charter school = Publicly funded private school. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Charter schools here in Colorado can and do turn away SPED kids. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:59 AM Response to Reply #25 |
41. Here is the NEA on charter schools |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
57. That's odd. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. Not in either of the two states I've taught in. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Not hard to be a great success when you can cherry pick |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Exactly. nt |
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d_r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. I was worried about that. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. That's the purpose of the scheme--leaving the "bad kids" in the public schools |
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DU GrovelBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
27. ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ## |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
36. christ almighty. i'll give you points for sheer perserverance, and lack of shame. |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:56 AM Response to Reply #36 |
104. do you support the NEA in this? |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #104 |
106. That would mean he would have to do all that thinking thing. Ewwwh. nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
42. Deleted message |
Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
46. Gomer Norquist's proudest accomplishment |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:20 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. It's amazing how much right wing propaganda has become conventional wisdom on DU. |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #47 |
98. And just like the dumber republicans |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #98 |
120. You are exactly right. n/t |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. All teachers are perfect, all public schools are flawless, and nothing should change. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:48 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. No, that's not any better. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 08:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. Nor is it better to set up a 'straw man' simplistic argument... |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:39 AM Response to Reply #60 |
97. OOOH. That was Norquist having another orgasm. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
48. And if you didn't see it coming, you weren't paying attention. |
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joeycola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
140. But he has his friend Arne Duncan |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
53. The NEA endorsed Obama knowing he supports charter schools, then whines when |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #53 |
67. There was no one left to endorse, |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
83. Not every union endorses a candidate in every race |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. The NEA represents educators. We care about MANY issues... |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. That's not a very good analogy. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #53 |
76. Why are you attacking the teachers and their labor union? |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. That's the hip thing to do around here lately. Shows how "pragmatic" one is. |
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Jim Sagle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:52 AM Response to Reply #78 |
107. Hope and change will see us through. |
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YvonneCa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
80. You are right, and here's an example. The author of this SD Union article always sides... |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Does it really help teachers for their union to follow an ineffective political strategy? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. You think they should have supported someone other than Obama in the election? |
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Freddie Stubbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #85 |
118. They certainly could have backed someone else in the primary |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
86. Charter Schools: the End of America as We Know It. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-23-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
87. Second Thread On This: |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 08:43 AM Response to Reply #87 |
99. Good. Now we need about a dozen more. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 10:21 AM Response to Reply #99 |
111. I Agree |
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Jakes Progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #111 |
113. Sorry if I misunderstood. |
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Dinger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. Here Ya Go JP: |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
105. The thing is that it's hard to believe it could get any worse in certain areas |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
122. *FACEPLAM* |
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TankLV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
126. Charter Schools are publicly funded PRIVATE schools - and are BAD BAD BAD!!! |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 11:57 PM Response to Reply #126 |
130. Charter schools are public schools. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 12:25 AM Response to Reply #126 |
131. That's not an accurate statement. |
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tunacan (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. Thank you. |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-25-09 01:31 AM Response to Reply #126 |
132. Many Charter Schools are Publicly Funded and Do Not Select only the best students. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-26-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Not only are charter schools all private and exclude black/special ed/poor students ... |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #132 |
136. Because certain special interests benefit from pushing the myth |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. All charters are publicly funded. |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-30-09 10:02 PM Response to Reply #132 |
142. I know why this myth lives. |
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