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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:40 AM Original message |
The Cost of Not Having a Public Option |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. "not even including a concurrent jump in out-of-pocket costs for deductibles..." |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
2. The California Nurses Association supports single payer because it best contains costs. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. And yet they see the value of a public option that others are trying to distort. n/t |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. No need to mislead, Prosense. The CNA doesn't endorse or support The Mini Public Option |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Please explain the "mini option" |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Sure. Here's a link to an article with an indepth history of the public option, |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Mislead? They distributed the press release. The CNA can advocate |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Yes, mislead. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. BS. No one said they endorsed the plan. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. You implied that the CNA endorsed the plan. |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
4. This is the bottom line, if the insurance co. can keep the status quo |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 12:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. The insurance industry doesn't want to keep the status quo. They are losing customers. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Wow, who knew the insurance companies wanted reform? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. The insurance companies want a trillion in new public monies a decade and they want |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 01:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Answer the question: |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. They did. They got Medicare part D, passed with key Democratic support. Now it's |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. That is not reform. Why didn't they pass reform, e.g. co-ops to get the additional customers? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Here If this isn' enough let me know |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Enough? None of those unrelated press releases answer the question. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I was attempting to answer you and posted to where you first asked your question. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:17 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Bush couldn't even deliever on market based |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. That's not an answer. Bush never even tried to push health reform |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Again, please be intellectually honest here. Why is your question relevant to your |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
28. So after all the non-answer responses you're accusing me on not being intellectually honest and |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Obama said that the insurance companies are in favor of changing the status quo. They made a deal |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Obama: Health Reform Will Put Patients’ Interests Ahead of Insurance Company Profits |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. They want to change the staus quo so they make more money than they currenly are. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 07:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
37. Here's an article on the huge windfall insurers are expecting to get. And you helped! |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. Last I heard the health insurance providers were making at least a 300% |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. It's almost impossible to break in. And they enjoy anti-trust protection through special |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Aug-24-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. Here's an article from the LA Times on the big windfall insurance companies are going to get |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 04:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. When your price goes up 94% |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. That would be true if the costs of pay outs stayed the same, but those go up as well which |
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quakerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:02 PM Original message |
Is that an honest estimate, though? |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
33. My advice is to look at the board of the Commonwealth Club see who they are. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
17. K&R I hope people read through the posts and make up thier own minds. |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-22-09 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
19. Great information. K&R |
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