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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:01 AM
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Bush Sr. set up Dan Rather in 1988---history repeats itself
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 10:40 AM by devrc243
It's now not "just" about the "allegedly" forged or fake documents, it's a about a history with this administration, Rove, and their dirty tactics that go way back. This hack job now reeks and stinks to high heavens. Dan Rather has always been fair and has gotten to the truth, which isn't always liked by the those in question.

In 1988, Dan Rather had a heated exchange with Bush Sr. about Iran-Contra and that has never been forgotten. Dan Rather was getting the job done, even way back then, and his credibility has ALWAYS been in tact.

Questions about a scandal in the Reagan administration led Rather to a run-in with then-Vice President George Bush during a live interview on national television in January 1988. This incident highlighted Rather's testy relations with top politicians, but also his vulnerability to attack. In the midst of the interview, Bush chastised Rather for creating a six-minute blackout on the network the previous September. It was the vice president's retort to Rather's insistent questioning about Bush's role in the Iran-Contra affair.

The blackout, Rather says, "was an effort to convince the powers-that-be that news is more important than sports. Among the many battles I've lost, that's one." However, the point Rather was trying to make, one of a number that has earned him the nickname "Dan Quixote," was lost in the thicket of bizarre, confusing and often contradictory explanations. From a journalist's perspective, Rather's stance was heroic. He was standing up for the news, but it ended up being another weird incident.

Four months later, on Jan. 25, 1988, Rather was in New York doing a live satellite interview on the "CBS Evening News" with Bush, who was in Washington. Rather asked the vice president, who was running to succeed Reagan, about the Iran-Contra affair and his involvement in it. Bush was not being responsive and Rather kept pressing. Bush finally let Rather have it with a planned assault.

"It's not fair to judge my whole career by a rehash on Iran," Bush began. "How would you like it if I judged your career by those seven minutes when you walked off the set in New York ? Would you like that?" Bush got the length of time and the city wrong, but it was plain that he had thrown Rather.

"I had raised the possibility with the staff before the interview that he might raise Miami," Rather recalls. "The staff unanimously felt that no way he'd do that, but I thought he might." In fact, some at CBS News had gotten word shortly before the interview that Bush would raise the Miami incident. "I wasn't shocked or surprised by it. I was thinking at the time, 'Let's get to the core questions.' That's exactly what I did. Now, what I wasn't prepared for, and this is where I made a big mistake, was for the whole weight of the vice president's presidential campaign--even before the interview was over--to begin spinning things their way, and to succeed."

The Bush campaign claimed that Rather had tried to set them up. The truth was that Bush and his confederates had set up Rather. Bettag, who was Rather's executive producer at the time, believes that Rather knew what he was getting into with Bush, but that his nature would not allow him to avoid the confrontation. "He believes so deeply that it is essential that a reporter not shrink from controversy that he has taken on any number of things that tee people off," Bettag says.

That also goes to the heart of what Dan Rather is about...


more...
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/Cigar/CA_Profiles/People_Profile/0,2540,88,00.html
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AP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:06 AM
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1. Fool me once...don't get fooled again. You sure Rather wasn't compicit?
Maybe Rather's doing this to help them out?
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:15 AM
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2. I don't think so. Rather really doesn't like Bush I and Bush II...
...why would he help them?
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:47 AM
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8. I agree and how is having his name bashed
"helping" :shrug:

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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:42 AM
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7. Compicit? No, I don't think so
;)
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:58 AM
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9. bush won....and rather has had lotsa opportunities
to upset bush applecart all along.... also, i recall in 2000 election rather earnestly saying 'florida goes to algore' a few hours before polls closed out west.... then ...then....then....(!!!)...it was as if they were reassuring the voters until it too late....Dan Rather maybe stupid, he maybe complicit, but like everything else the mediawwhores slops the hogs with, the end result is THAT BASTARD BUSH WON!
But maybe you're right, maybe Dan is sincere and learning etc. I do not want to discourage anyone, but remember Rather gets 10's of thousands of dollars EVERY DAY! and that isn't for public service (which maybe Dan's main goal, who knows)
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:12 AM
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10. I watched with earnest
eyes and ears on election night 2000 and Rather wasn't the only one calling Florida for Al Gore, 'cause IT DID GO TO AL GORE. It wasn't until Bush got on the phone to Jeb that he rounded up Katherine Harris to head down to headquarters to check out what had gone wrong.

There's a picture of her coming in with her hair tossed 'cause she flew out of bed to see what the hell went wrong...then all of a sudden Florida was put right back in the "UNDECIDED" column.

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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:47 AM
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11. !!! why i already forgot that!
but gee we aren't talking about a bananna republic,.. i mean USA put men on the moon when I was a kid!!!
sheeese
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:22 AM
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3. Cigar Aficionado?
It's a good article, but Cigar Aficionado?

What do cigars have to do with Dan Rather being spun by GHWB?

I remember reading an old paperback where a bunch of songwriters were interviewed. The interviewer paid an inordinate amount of attention to the writers' smoking habits, in detail that he didn't put into the songwriting technique. The interview with Steve Allen was the best -- Allen was at first incredulous, then started with sly insults; when the interviewer persisted, Steverino nearly kicked him out of his house.

What next? "Alex Trebeck discusses The DaVinci Code in next month's Leather Lover" ... "Amber Tamblyn on God, spirituality, and her love of low-carb Kimchi in Spanking Enthusiast" ... "Is Whole Life or Term Life for you? Presidential advisor Dick Morris weighs in on this controversial issue in Toe Suckers' Digest"

Sorry, but there's something about smoking fetishism gives me the creeps.

--bkl
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:37 AM
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5. Dan Rather is a cigar smoker
nothing more--nothing less. Sometimes these articles reveal more than your average, oh, say, corporate inteviews. I have followed Dan Rather's journalism since way back to the '87 and '88, especially '88 when he was attacked by those freaks wanting to know "what frequency he was on." I remember his interview with David Letterman talking about how weird it was and the good humor he used to handle it.

I've always had alot of respect for Dan Rather and I hope they get to the bottom of this story.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:36 AM
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4. I hope the good folks here at DU have emailed CBS and Rather in support
I've never sent a letter to any network before but I did this time. I was disgusted at the piling on of other "journalists" at other news outlets. Feh!

I said, "please don't let the shrieking harpies of this administration deter you. Please continue following down the truth. We have had too little of it these last four years."

That was a nice profile of him. Thanks for recommending it.
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 10:39 AM
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6. I sent one this am
I don't want to jump to any conclusions yet on "sloppy journalism" especially when Dan Rather has had such an excellent journalistic track record.
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