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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:09 PM
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"Bring back Reagan's tax wisdom"
Rolling back the Bush tax cuts for those making over 200K and giving tax cuts to everyone else can accurately be described as making the income tax structure more similar to what it was like under Reagan.

1987
2004
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:20 PM
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1. nice ...

Just remember the "golden days" of the 50s saw the highest tax rates ever. Why do conservatives idolize these times with such high tax rates????

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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:37 AM
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4. That's a good point
There was a tax bracket of 98% at one time.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:01 AM
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7. They bring up Kennedy's "tax cut" ...

But Kennedy's program was really a tax restructuring. They closed loopholes for taxable income and dropped the rate form 90% to 70%.

Conservatives NEVER like details. Details are messy. Details can interefere with ideology. Facts and details: BAD. Preaching idiology: GOOD!!!!!!

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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:36 AM
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9. Then it could be made very simple:
"Sen. Kerry is suggesting rolling back the Bush tax cuts for those making over $200K and giving tax cuts to everyone else. The idea would raise the contributions from the richest Americans from 35% to 39.6% as it was in 2000, just 1% away from where Reagan left it: 38.5%."

The type of objections that would be raised would be bickering over 1.1%, which could soundly be laughed off: "We're talking about providing health insurance to sick Americans and solving the largest deficit problems we've experienced. 1% that applies to 2% of the population is petty."

And for those interested in complexity, Reagan's "cuts" had a lot of shifting going on too: this is a great link to send Reagan worshipers who think the lower the taxes are, the better, period - from National Review: http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_bartlett/bartlett200310290853.asp
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:29 PM
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2. Reagan..
raised payroll taxes significantly, though.
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-19-04 11:52 PM
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3. The fact is, it's accurate to invoke Reagan's income tax structure
The Bush campaign invokes Reagan's legacy frequently. How would they argue that Reagan's tax structure was wrong?

BTW, reagan presided over the largest tax increase in history - but that's not the point - the fact of rolling back tax cuts for those making over 200K/year is making things more like under Reagan.

What those making over 200K/year were contributing in income taxes:
1987: 38.5%
2000: 39.6% <- what Kerry wants to roll it back to
2004: 35%

I think it would be effective to frame it like that.
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 12:47 AM
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5. I recall Reaganomics was coined then I hated him too
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shockingelk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 07:23 AM
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6. But conservatives love him
More than Bush. Much more.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-20-04 11:06 AM
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8. Bush Sr. Called it "Voodoo Economics"
Edited on Mon Sep-20-04 11:07 AM by Rambis
"don't piss down my back and tell me it's rainin" trickle down my ass-
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