strategy 101 -- McCain triangulating Kerry over Iraq

[grasswire]

Okay, it's obvious now.

The Republican senators who are chastising Bush over Iraq are simply engaging in triangulation.

They're taking the Iraq issue away from Kerry.

Clever. It could work for them.

[buycitgo]

1. what you talking about , Lewis?

I can't sleep....listening to Conason, B Kennedy Jr., Blumenthal, Franken, Tony Morrison on CSPAN radio online

here

http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:_fE5U5sAFkMJ:www.cspan.org/watch/cspanradio.asp+cspan+radio+online&hl=en

very good

bobby kennedy is VERY strong.....talking about polluters who are HUGE Bush contributors being under CRIMINAL prosecution during campaign, then having cases DROPPED

heard much about that? he's talking about it as I type

[Pachamama]

2. Huh?

Makes no sense...explain your reasoning....

[buycitgo]

3. grasswire knows

give chance to explain

while you're waiting, watch this

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=842118#844387

[grasswire]

5. McCain and the other Republican..

...senators are taking the Iraq issue away from Kerry. They're criticizing Bush harshly, and talking about ways to fix Iraq.

That's called "triangulation" in political speech.

[Justice]

15. Disagree

This allows Kerry to reinforce his message by saving McCain, Hagel etc agree with him -- McCain and Hagel are Republicans who appeal to moderates, and Democrats.

[Droopy]

4. McCain is such an asshole

Still whoring for BushCo after they reamed him in 2000. You'd think the man would have some pride.

[A_Possum]

6. Strikes me as pretty damn risky strategy

There's only one other choice besides Bush in this election.

They'd like to claim that nobody's gonna vote for Kerry, but making their own guy look incompetent just so that Kerry isn't the only one saying it seems a bit...desperate, any way you look at it.

[Disturbed]

7. The whipped dog.

[buycitgo]

8. "TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF ME!

and don't give me any of that shit!"

remember when he said that to Bush?

of course you don't, cause it got very little media play...maybe none at the time

[buycitgo]

9. oops! got it wrong.....here's what he actually said, and the context

By the time the South Carolina primarycame around, the Republican candidates had launched nasty campaigns and loathed each other. When the two men assembled for a group photo, Texas Governor George W. Bush went over to Arizona Senator John McCain in his full
I-love-ya-man mode, seizing both of McCain's hands in his own, one source tells Newsweek in the special election issue. "Let's not let this get personal, John," he said. "We've got to start running a better campaign."

McCain looked at Bush. "Don't give me that s--t," he growled, "and take your hands off of me," according to an exclusive report in Newsweek's special election issue.


http://www.newscom.com/cgi-bin/prnh/20001111/NYSU002

[npincus]

16. Bush looks like a Faith Healer

and McCain looks like the Saved.... Hallelujah! Praise Jesus!

[Blayde Starrfyre]

10. Possibly, but

I figured it was them jumping off a sinking ship. In Dr. Strangelove parlance, Iraq is the bomb Bush is going to ride into the ground, and the Republicans taking him to task on this realize it.

[buycitgo]

11. I sure hope you're right, but don't think so.....they're still sticking

together, and McCain is a CORRUPT and spineless as the day is hot and long

he clearly has designs on the WH....he's got the addiction that they never lose.

sure wish there'd be some major Hunter Thompson stories on this

he's popular among the yute today; especially among young fascoids, who think his drinking and gunslinging are VERY manly, thus right wing

they apparently aren't aware of most of what he writes/has written

[xchrom]

12. it's very possible

with this much money, power and greed in play -- anything is possible.
there are NO sacred cows.

[greenman3610]

13. these guys want to be President, and they know if Bush wins,

there may not be another Republican administration for a long, long
time.

Assuming there are any more elections.

[jefferson_dem]

14. I don't think so. These Repug admissions work against * big time.

For triangluation to be successful, the one who stands to gain is the one who places himself between two extremes. Who is that here? * IS the extreme. And McCain is not running for anything.

What this REALLY does, in my view, is isolate Chimp-in-Chief on the radical fringe where he belongs, steadily losing friends and whatever credibility he had. It gives our guy a "even your own side is saying things are fucked up" talking point. And as the bad news keeps trickling in...IRAQ is a winner for Kerry (sad as the whole operation is).