Notice how the media jumped over whether they were forgeries

[Qutzupalotl]

and went straight to "Who did them and why? Was it Rove? Was it the Democrats? Why would CBS use forged documents? When is Dan Rather resigning? Should John Kerry denounce him?"

Meanwhile, every single piece of "evidence" of forgery has fallen apart under scrutiny. Every single one.

Remember the superscript canard? Shot to hell. Even Knox said she had a typewriter that could do that. She might not have typed these particular memos, but Killian certainly could have done so after hours and not told her about it, as additional CYA. And Knox agreed completely with the contents.

Remember the "wrong address"? Turns out it was the address of one George H.W. Bush, the father of the young man in question. Add a dash of cocaine into the mix and it all starts to fall into place.

Remember the flashing graphic of the memo text and a Word document? If you superimpose them, the differences become evident. Look at the capital Y. It's not Times New Roman at all, not even close.


CBS' signature expert said the signature was authentic. He later clarified that he couldn't speak to the typed portion of the documents. The media spun that as backtracking, when he was actually vouching for the documents to the utmost of his expertise. Other experts at CBS continue to vouch for their authenticity.

Folks, the documents are genuine. They are the equivalent of Killian's sworn testimony to these events. We need to support Dan Rather and CBS, not dig his grave. And more importantly, we need to ask Bush if he disobeyed a direct order, and why.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

1. This is the GOP Noise Machine smearing the good name of CBS.

CBS is American and CNNFOX is NOT!!!

[yardwork]

2. Yes. It's what so many of us said.

But Rove went right to work and his willing accomplices in the media dutifully followed orders.

That's why it is so important for any American who believes in the freedom of the press to support Dan Rather in this. He has done nothing wrong. He has stated that if the documents are proven false, or if any further information comes out about them, he will report it.

I believe him. Right now, Dan Rather is one of the only journalists in the entire country that I believe.

[Qutzupalotl]

3. Indeed, the spin is unbelievable.

Ticks me off, too, because I'm a typographer by trade and training, and I can find no fault with the documents at all.

The smokescreen, now THAT I can see Rove doing. But forging the documents? No, he's not good enough to pull it off.

[CornField]

4. It would be nice if the source would expose him/herself

and release Rather. There'd be hell to pay, but maybe we could then get past all of this forgery talk.

Man... it's late... maybe 'exposed' wasn't the best choice of words there. Although, I bet 60 Minutes ratings would take a hike.

[Qutzupalotl]

6. It would be nice if the source came forward, but

1) we can't expect that; it's a lot to ask of anybody.
2) we can't pressure CBS to reveal it; it sets a dangerous precedent that would chill future whistleblower revelations, and
3) we don't really need it. So far, no credible evidence of forgery has withstood careful scrutiny.

Every piece of so-called evidence has been shown to be smoke and mirrors by people who don't know what they are talking about.

The experts stand by the story. So should we.

[Qutzupalotl]

5. How to answer G. Gordon Liddy

On Paula Zahn, he said the CBS documents have as much authenticity as Kerry's military service.

He's right. They are both authentic.

By contrast, the Swift Boat Liars for Truth have as much credibility as the forged documents Bush used to justify a war.

[John_H]

7. CNN: 18 % of swing voters less likely to vote for chimp because of docs.

Who the fuck cares if they're real or not?

[Qutzupalotl]

9. How many are more likely to vote for Bush because of the docs?

:shrug:

I think the allegations haven't gained traction because of the focus on authenticity. Once it's officially settled, the heat will be back on the WH to explain Bush's whereabouts.

They outright dismissed Knox' claim that Bush skipped his physical. It's the Texas Sidestep.

[Qutzupalotl]

8. Now that the forgery angle has been debunked,

the media is saying, "Why are we fighting the Vietnam War again? There are so many important issues!"

Like, is our Commander-in-Chief an unreliable, dishonest slacker who thinks he's above the law?

[USA_1]

10. make that ...

"our AWOL Commander in Chief ..."

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[Maddy McCall]

12. So the AWOL chimp can point to the messenger...

while he avoids the message. Why won't he answer questions about his service, or lack thereof?

You Bush defenders--you claim to be patriots but you defend an AWOL scumbucket who has sent 1032 American men and women to die in Iraq.

How can you defend this?