Which FORMER Presidents Would Endorse KERRY?

[liberalpragmatist]

In the dream, I was watching the news:

"Over 30 former Presidents Endorse Kerry"

In the report, tons of the founding fathers, and many of the presidents, including Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Madison, Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, FDR, JFK (of course), Eisenhower, Truman, Wilson...pretty much all of them, endorsed Kerry.

It was funny. Probably true to a point - I highly doubt ANY of the founding fathers would have endorsed Bush. They would probably have been appaled someone like W could've become President.

Of course, I'm sure there are some former Presidents that would've endorsed Bush. Probably McKinley. I'm thinking also that Andrew Jackson would've endorsed Bush - I realize he was more genuinely populist, but the impulses and whatnot are quite similar. I don't like Jackson.

[whistle]

1. KKKarl Rove would say that the opinions of former U.S. Presidents...

...dosen't matter because they are from the "Old America" and Dick Cheney would say "they can go fu*k themselves".

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. Most Native Americans don't like Jackson

He was responsible for the Trail of Tears.

Probably Warren G. Harding would endorse Bush. After all, they are a lot alike in having crooked cronies interested in oil reserves.

[liberal N proud]

3. I am sure Hoover would endorse him. His record is as dismal.

[liberalpragmatist]

4. Hoover was actually an incredibly decent fellow

Who did a lot of good as head of US Food administration. He organized so much delivery of food and supplies to Europe in the aftermath of WWI.

Read this for instance:

He married his Stanford sweetheart, Lou Henry, and they went to China, where he worked for a private corporation as China's leading engineer. In June 1900 the Boxer Rebellion caught the Hoovers in Tientsin. For almost a month the settlement was under heavy fire. While his wife worked in the hospitals, Hoover directed the building of barricades, and once risked his life rescuing Chinese children.

One week before Hoover celebrated his 40th birthday in London, Germany declared war on France, and the American Consul General asked his help in getting stranded tourists home. In six weeks his committee helped 120,000 Americans return to the United States. Next Hoover turned to a far more difficult task, to feed Belgium, which had been overrun by the German army.

After the United States entered the war, President Wilson appointed Hoover head of the Food Administration. He succeeded in cutting consumption of foods needed overseas and avoided rationing at home, yet kept the Allies fed.

After the Armistice, Hoover, a member of the Supreme Economic Council and head of the American Relief Administration, organized shipments of food for starving millions in central Europe. He extended aid to famine-stricken Soviet Russia in 1921. When a critic inquired if he was not thus helping Bolshevism, Hoover retorted, "Twenty million people are starving. Whatever their politics, they shall be fed!"

http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/hh31.html

Can you imagine Dubya saying that?! Hoover was basically a fundamentally decent person and a strong fiscal conservative who was WAY in over his head when it came to the Depression. I doubt he would've voted for Bush.

[WI_DEM]

5. I agree Hoover actually did more to combat the depression

than any president up to that time did. The prior policy was that government shouldn't get involved in relief or combating the depressions--certainly the "downturns" during Grover Cleveland and even TR's administrations saw no meaningful presidential action. Hoover changed that, but didn't go as far as FDR and didn't have the personality that FDR had to bring hope to a battered nation.

[liberal N proud]

7. OK,, I will stop bashing Hoover.

I was only looking at the economic numbers.
Shame to me.
Sorry, I should have know better, I grew up in Iowa, Hoovers home state.

[partygirl]

8. you know what is really

hilarious? My mother (phD in history--professor and presidential historian) says that Hoover was actually one of the smartest presidents that we ever had. He just got trounced by the bad economy (stock market stuff--he could not have done anything about). She compares it to Carter--who was also trounced by the economy.

She says that presidents don't really control the economy as much as people think they do (but of course they get credit when things are good and blamed when things are bad--just like my softball coach is praised when I get 6 runs in a game!!) Anyhow--we criticize the Bush economy anyway--but we really believe (privately) that the person running it is mostly Alan Greenspan and the there are somethings beyond anyone's control when dealing with the economy.

[RoyGBiv]

10. I disagree, in part...

Hoover isn't as bad as you think. He inherited a lot of crap from Coolidge (and the general state of the US and world economy as a whole actually) and was unable to deal with it effectively, in part due to his strict stance on limiting government intervention into domestic affairs. Some of those same stances stand at polar opposites to the kinds of things BushCo has done.

What a lot of people don't know about Hoover was that he was one of the people in charge of helping rebuild Europe after WWI. In that job he excelled, getting people fed, clothed, housed, and even turning on electricity in areas that actually hadn't had it before. Of course all this is speculation, but comparing Hoover's knowledge and skill in the type of operation BushCo is conducting in Iraq right now, I think Hoover would be appalled.

[Anarcho-Socialist]

6. I know that the sole ex-CSA president would be for Bush/Cheney big time

n/t

[Democrat 4 Ever]

9. Every damn one of them would endorse Kerry.

Even the worst of the worst would see what a fraud this guy is. I'm no so sure if even Bush41 can pull the lever for BoyGeorge in the privacy of the voting booth! Not if he gives a hoot about America.

[Cooley Hurd]

11. I feel the same... have we ever had a more corrupt administration?

Even Harding would wear a clothespin on his nose around Chimpo!:thumbsup: