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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:14 PM Original message |
If you believe the Afghan War is right, will you just freaking sign up already? |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
1. KNR!~ |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
2. K&R |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. if you are such an enthusiastic protestor against the war... |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. I take it your joining tommorow? |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No. I'll wait to hear from the Commander and Chief to hear what |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. It's not "knee jerk bluster" to say this war is unwinnable |
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niceypoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
48. Bush ignored Afghanistan for the last six years |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. You do realize that bin Laden is in Pakistan, not Afghanistan |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #17 |
30. And if you remember the campaign (were you in the US during |
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CalvinandHobbes (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #17 |
77. No he is still CIC.. |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
90. The Taliban |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. self-delete |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. There was this American man that put his son down, doused himself with gasoline |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:37 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Is there a batttalion of the handicapped? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
21. We got amputees still on active duty |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. And yet you portray our military as captives to a terrible policy |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
41. You hadn't said you were handicapped. |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 04:58 AM Response to Reply #7 |
79. So was his boss. The President of the United States. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. "Worked for Buddhist Monks protesting Viet Nam." |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Those of us against the war are trying to stop killing |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:42 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. I oppose all war, and believe that it should be rarely pursued. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. We DO know what to oppose. The continuation of this war must be opposed |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Deleted message |
Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I supported Kucinich in the primaries |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #11 |
92. On 10/7/01 |
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FiveGoodMen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #3 |
103. Wow |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. Those DUers that support continuing the war in Afghanistan, should trade places with our soldiers |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Seems you weren't paying attention during the campaign. |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Seems you haven't been paying attention to what has happened in Afghanistan since the campaign |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. You mean soldiers were not being shot at during the campaign? |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Cute chicken hawk bluster! |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Not bluster, the very same policy that was put forward by the |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Is our tactical situation in Afghanistan today the same it was in 2008? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
35. That doesn't mean we have no right to oppose the war |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
46. Repeating the phrase "Obama was pro-war" doesn't prove anything |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. That doesn't mean Obama supporters can't oppose the war |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Then why did you support the candidate who called this war |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. Was that the sole issue in the campaign? |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Any more important then war? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #31 |
44. I'd say so |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:36 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. I did not give my approval to the war in voting for Obama |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
32. It was the closest to a fully antiwar candidate that could get elected |
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styersc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. The president who claimed support for this war has the power |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:15 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I knew what Obama stood for. That didn't mean I was voting for the war in voting for him |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #22 |
54. I did not have to vote against Obama to be against the Afghan war. |
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Autumn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
82. Sorry, I didn't vote for Obama as |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
84. +1 |
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IndianaGreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
14. 'War is organised murder, and nothing else.' |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. That was a response to trench warfare |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:53 AM Response to Reply #28 |
73. Nonsense. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
96. Which would mean we'd have abolished slavery fifty years earlier |
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Garam_Masala (711 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
107. The biggest democracy in the world was created without firing a single bullet |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #14 |
98. The only winners in war are bankers and the weapons manufacturers. |
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Oregone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
23. Sign up to fight em over there |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
25. Deleted sub-thread |
Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
33. Logic fail. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. How so? |
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rmp yellow (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #33 |
64. We liberal asked right-wing chickenhawks to enlist, or enlist their children |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:18 PM Response to Original message |
39. What I want to know is... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. NO, it's totally different |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Well then why the hell didn't Obama join... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. I don't drive a car. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I enjoy eating fish. I don't go fishing. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:45 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. I'm also a vegetarian. So I hardly endorse your inconsistency there. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Ah you're an animist |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:48 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. Animism is a religion. You don't have to worship animals to decide not to eat them. |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
60. No, but you consider plant life worthy of killing for your survival |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:20 AM Response to Reply #60 |
70. I don't treat myself as a paragon |
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MellowDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:59 PM Response to Reply #53 |
62. You support killing... |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:24 AM Response to Reply #62 |
71. There were very few chickenhawks in World War II |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:09 AM Response to Reply #53 |
76. They certainly do have to perform pretzel-like acrobatics |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #76 |
99. Why are these people so obsessed with defending this war? |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. nicely played. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:40 AM Response to Reply #43 |
78. If you back pulling out right now, you are backing the deaths of other people. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #78 |
95. NOTHING HAS IMPROVED. |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #95 |
105. I CALL BULLSHIT! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. Even if that counts as improvement, it can't require MORE war |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
47. Wow. It's the left-wing version of the "love it or leave it" argument! |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:34 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. No. It's consistency. |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:06 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. No one is EVER 100% consistent in any of their arguments |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
101. Most inconsistency doesn't involve demanding death while avoiding it oneself |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
51. Deleted sub-thread |
dave29 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:56 PM Response to Original message |
59. I thought war was hell -- turns out, it's actually just this thread |
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WonderGrunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. And that's the correct response to this thread. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
63. K&R! The fools who want to pull burkas off heads will piss their pants if they had to go |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
66. I want cops to make sure my streets are safe. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:59 AM Response to Reply #66 |
74. You're ignoring the major difference |
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msallied (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #74 |
86. That is not what the OP has stated throughout this thread |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
67. when the Taliban and al qaeda take control of Afghanistan when our troops instantly leave |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:26 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. They can't be stopped by outside force anyway. |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:37 AM Response to Reply #72 |
80. which is why we need to stay long enough to build up the afghan forces |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. I wouldn't want to live there NOW. It's not better NOW and we can't make it better |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:00 AM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Have you always been so vocal a proponent |
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citizen snips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
81. have you always wanted the Afghan people to live under terrorists? |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Lol, wow you sure burned me with that right wing talking point. |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. There's no possibility of them ever having anything good |
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tranche (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 11:56 PM Response to Original message |
68. I'm 12 |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
69. It is interesting how this argument evaporated after Jan. 20th |
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MidwestRick (604 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
85. So is it ok... |
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avaistheone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
87. Midea Benjamin believes in fighting this war. She is gong to take her children |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
89. I believe in universal healthcare, but I'm not a doctor. |
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SIMPLYB1980 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. You didn't just go there did you? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 02:49 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. You aren't advocating killing anybody. |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. I used to favor the death penalty, but wasn't an executioner. (nt) |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. It's good you changed your mind, then. |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-08-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
104. Isn't this just |
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