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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:24 PM
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Reflecting on the knee jerk reaction to anything Obama..
with a friend and co worker. I was just stunned by certain elements and their absolute venom towards the President yesterday for receiving the Nobel Peace Prize. It was not something he applied for, asked for, lobbied for.

But to listen and read commentary, it was as if he had committed some dastardly crime. There were even calls for him to apologize? and to not accept the award?

It would almost be funny, if this has not happened time and time again.

There is an obsession about finding things wrong with the President.

We have been through too many to even list.

Add to that, the bi-weekly warning from the right to all Democrats that they had better watch their step when they respond.

Or wanting a military junta to put Nancy Pelosi in her "place."

My co worker and I have come to the conclusion, that there was an element who have been angry since Obama announced.. they have said he was too early to the Presidency, taking on too much.. too inovolved internationally.. too involved domestically (it switches day to day..)

But the bottom line with these people, is that they are looking for anything to get out from under being so damn wrong in the first place.

They were so out of touch, and missed the mark so wide, that they look for anything to try and prove their initial premise against the President.

To the point they can never in any way shape or form, give credit, or acknowledge anything he has done.

It is like they have lost themselves.

Even money market people cheer when the markets go down because it proves their original premise, everything the President did is wrong.

Massive amounts of therapy might be in order.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:26 PM
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1. It's funny because it's the same people who *complained* about how Democrats treated...
President Clinton.

:rofl:
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:28 PM
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3. That is true too.. but I am still jaw dropping over the comments
on Nancy Pelosi being put in her "place".. What kind of clueless mind even comes up with that.

By the military no less.

Nimrods one and all..

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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:26 PM
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2. On a related Note
Many of the same people who said that he is doing too much, are the same ones who say he hasn't done anything.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:30 PM
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4. they can't have it all ways!
Edited on Sat Oct-10-09 03:32 PM by Rosa Luxemburg
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:18 AM
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17. Apparently they can.
Just yesterday I had someone try and tell me that we were going to go to war with Iran.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 02:24 PM
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20. to look for more WMDs
who are these people?
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 02:31 PM
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21. They see only what they want to see.
Barack Obama doesn't immediately withdraw all troops from Iraq and Afghanistan == Barack Obama is a scumbag warmonger who should be tried, convicted, and tossed into the Hague.
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:31 PM
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5. Yep.. it depends on the subject of the day.
About two months ago, I was listening to the CNN commentators.. and in the course of one week, they did exactly that.

The first part of the week, he was not involved enough..(and to be honest with you , I can't remember exactly what they were harping on at the time), but by the end of the week, same said commentators.. are harping on how he was on TV too much.. overexposure.. and they did a three day harangue on that one.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:58 PM
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6. It was durng Health care....
Wait they did the same thing when it came to him signing the closing of Gitmo...
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 12:42 PM
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19. CNN: "Is Obama overexposed. We now turn to John McCain for the answer." nt
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 03:59 PM
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7. Thanks PT. Great post. K/R. n/t
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:14 PM
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8. Thoughts from my co worker...it was her idea that massive amounts
of therapy would be good for those who are so consumed by their need to have been right.


Maybe we can include it in the HCR act :rofl:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 06:59 PM
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9. Some people are just pathologically impossible to please.
Especially when you have your own personal agenda and your own personal stake in the outcome. In this case it's taken to an extreme because the personal agenda is rather twisted (racism, hatred, jingoism, religious judgmentalism, and more) and the outcome has NOT reinforced it. He's not their man, and he's so dramatically outside the parameters of their definition of their man that they're incapable of reconciling it. You hate and fear what you don't understand. If you're hardwired to be not-understanding of the idea of blacks making so much progress in this country that they've finally broken the ultimate glass ceiling, you're apt to find it nearly impossible to accept it. Something that's unthinkable is very hard to accept when it actually comes to pass anyway.

I'm guessing that perhaps it's come to an extreme that may be almost a tipping point by now. Consider: within the space of just a week, we've seen the wrong-wingers cheering and high-fiving when Chicago/America/Obama did not win the 2016 Olympics, FOLLOWED BY their exploding in near-cataclysmic fury after Obama was named winner of this year's Nobel Peace Prize. Now, ask yourself something about those people. How does this make them look? What does this do for their public persona? Would you want to be seen with these people? Would you want your name attached to that kind of behavioral display? Would you be proud to be part of that? Could you see yourself being part of that? For me, it's a default into motherhood - I go straight to "who the hell brought them up???"

Perhaps these folks don't feel it. After all, they appear to be VERY heavily-invested in this behavior. For them, it appears to be deeply personal, based on intensely-clung-to and long-cherished beliefs. BUT THE REST OF US DO. Remember, we're talking about a sliver of the population. Alan Grayson made a very shrewd and adept point about this, using Olympia Snowe. Who, he correctly pointed out, represents a TEENSY SLIVER of the American population. How is it that pleasing her somehow has to outweigh pleasing MANY MULTIPLE MILLIONS of Americans ALL OVER THE ENTIRE FREAKIN' COUNTRY - yes, even including her own state of Maine. I have relatives there myself. I know how they feel! The teabaggers and town hall hissy-fitters and other assorted groups of adult infants with their public snits and temper tantrums actually comprise a VERY TINY MINORITY!!! Represented by a political party that is, itself, a MINORITY!!! Why are we accommodating them? Especially when they behave so shamefully? Consider how that behavior makes them look! Like goons, thugs, pigs, and spoiled brats throwing hissy-fits because they didn't get their way. Admirable? You tell me.

The adults among us, all the rest of us wearing our proverbial big-boy pants, don't behave that way - for a reason. Because WE'RE the adults who are back in charge (as the last regime boasted but didn't deliver). We're the ones acting like adults while they're yowling and kicking and flopping all over the floor in the middle of the room like a bunch of poorly-raised three-year-olds, demanding all the attention.

So maybe it's a good thing, this additional out-of-power example of CONservative overreach. Because by now, consider how it's making them look. Again, the most recent statements in the House by Alan Grayson - reminding us how it's become clear by now: WHATEVER Obama might do, these assholes will simply oppose. Just for the sheer joy of being oppositional. That's all they're in it for. Whatever he does, they'll be against, just because it's him. He orders a BLT? They'll try to ban bacon. Just because it's him there and not the guy they thought should win. And they called us "Sore Losermen"! They don't want to help. They don't want to try to make improvements for anyone. They don't care about what their constituents really need or what they're asking for. "Country First" MY ASS. They should rightfully admit they lied about that - that it's really "Party First". But they won't - because truth is relative to them, and they'll lie if lying will make the nonmatching puzzle pieces fit by sheer force. They used to accuse Bill Clinton of "situational ethics" - as they called it. Well, they've become its poster children.

Might become a very beneficial thing, especially as we edge closer and closer to another campaign year. Just think how all this is making them look.

And now they've topped it all off with a nice raspberry on top - about the Nobel Frickin' PEACE PRIZE forcryingoutloud. Really. How does this make them look?
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Peacetrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 07:23 PM
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10. Very good observations on the Big Picture....
It does make them look small.

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davidpdx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 05:25 AM
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12. Should be an OP and something added at how pissy some in our own party are
Makes me wonder if they too want us want to fail.
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 06:21 AM
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13. Indeed, some on the left
want us to fail, but I don't believe most are Democrats. Most are likely to be "Greens," and also, some who hate the idea of a black president and a few who are still mad about Ms. Clinton not being the nominee/president (remember all that nonsense from the primaries?). The very far left amazingingly believe that if Obama fails they will realize their dreams. Americans will "see the light" and elect a far lefter. The problem is that there are probably many fewer far left than there are far right and the main part of the population is suspicious of them both.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 07:33 AM
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14. OP material here, +1
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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-10-09 07:43 PM
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11. Well said! n/t
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 07:41 AM
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15. Every time one of these things happens I kind of
shake my head and wonder what the next one will be. He puts his pants on starting with the left leg first? He breathes through both nostrils?

If you wrote a novel detailing these things, nobody would buy it.

Why get high when you can have your brain scrambled by the haters for free?

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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 08:39 AM
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16. Rachel Maddow aptly coined it Obama Derangement Syndrome.
K&R and thanks.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-11-09 11:37 AM
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18. The best word to describe them is 'Hatriots'
Edited on Sun Oct-11-09 11:48 AM by lunatica


There are people who truly hate anyone who is educated and can speak English correctly and persuasively. They feel stupid in the presence of such people, whether the person is aware of it or not. They hate feeling inferior but it never occurs to them that they could educate themselves so they transfer their self-hatred to hating the people that make them feel self-hate.

It's pretty basic.
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