Has the mainstream media ever before reported on who SHOULD have won the Nobel the day after

[Empowerer]

an American has been awarded the prize? I can't recall any such stories in the past.

The Post ran a sloppy, grossly inaccurate editorial yesterday - recommending the prize should have gone to someone who wasn't even eligible. CNN ran a piece last night about people who deserve a prize but were never awarded one.

I'm flat out sick and tired of watching our President be insulted in this way on a regular basis by the media. And people may differ and some may accuse me of "playing the race card" (a common accusation hurled at anyone who dares to point out the existence of bias), but you cannot convince me that a white president of any party or political persuasion would EVER be treated this way in our nation's mainstream media.

[masuki bance]

1. ...some may white about "playing the race card," Freudian? nt

[TreasonousBastard]

2. Seems every time someone gets it there's a lot of grousing...

and since the recipient has to be alive, and often surrounded by enemies and controversy, emotions get put in high gear.

But, this is the first time in almost a hundred years that a sitting President has received the prize, and it was so obviously a shot at that sorry-assed recently departed one that I'd be almost disappointed if politics didn't rear its ugly head.

I don't remember how much grousing went on over Carter's winning, but it seems there was some, and I'd be interested in the press's and public's reactions to Wilson's.

Or Roosevelt's for that matter. History doesn't credit either of them much for peacemaking, and I doubt much of the public back then did either.

[Solomon]

3. You know damn well people are going to tell you

it's no different than any other award. But you know better. Your memory is right. Every controversy about Obama we're told that it's no different than before but we know better.

Somebody will point out somebody conmplaining about an award in the past, but they will overlook your point, which is never have we had the media and so many people questioning the award like we are seeing now.

I'm getting sick to death of it. The man can't breathe without somebody complaining that he doesn't deserve to or he's doing it the wrong fucking way.

You know what it is. Remember, he didn't really win the presidency either, didn't deserve to go to Harvard, etc etc, etc.

Right wingers calling him radical, radicals calling him right-wing. It never ends. I can't fucking wait until he gets his second term.

[onenote]

4. probably

There have been at least two instances in which the US media has been critical of the award of the peace prize to an American: Teddy Roosevelt and Henry Kissinger. The NYTimes questioned the award to Roosevelt, characterizing it as an award to "the most warlike citizen of these United States." I don't have a specific cite but I recall editorial criticism of the Kissinger award was fairly widespread as well. And there was some carping more recently about Al Gore sharing the award with the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.

Did any of these editorials or articles suggest who might have been awarded the prize? I can't say for sure, but probably.

I'm glad Obama got the award, and those grousing about it are particularly lacking in class, but anyone who says that they weren't surprised is not being entirely truthful, imo.

[treestar]

11. It seems we remain ignorant as to why it is awarded

It goes to whoever is in a position to create peace, even if they were warlike before. That's why Yasser Arafat won it in 1994. No one could say that he and Peres and Rabin were peaceful. Same with Kissinger. In the mid-70s, Kissinger was in a position to change things for the better and may have made inroads in that direction.

So it depends on world events at the time and who could have done something to better things in the direction of peace.

When we realize that, Obama makes perfect sense for the 2009 award.

Too many people seem to assume that it is a lifetime achievement award or that the person has to be along the lines of Mother Theresa (who did win it once). That's because the media does not look into anything with any precision.

[Solomon]

15. Well said. That's exactly what's going on.

Ignorance. Not only ignorance, but arrogance.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

5. I'm fairly sure there wouldn't be as much grousing

had some Repub won it either- although the party as a whole sure hasn't done much in the name of peace.

[treestar]

12. The media would have been cheerleading had Bush or Condi won the award

Or any Repuke.

[onenote]

13. i seriously doubt that

They didn't cheerlead kissinger's win.

But its a moot point, because as unconscionable as Kissinger's win may have seemed at the time, it would look quite logical compared to giving Condi or chimpy the award.

[treestar]

16. The media might actually have been liberal in that era

It was just newspapers and straight up news.

CNN and Faux would have been cheerleading had any repuke won the award, no matter how little basis there was for it.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

17. Oh yes, definitely

and nobody would be questioning it either. AIOKIYAR :eyes:

[tomm2thumbs]

6. everyone is competing for crumbs and they'll do anything for an audience

it has gotten like Japan was years ago, where the most shocking, absurd, strange or outrageous advertising/ shows were the ones getting attention. The bland or normal shows/stories/ads were being overlooked. It becomes like a candle burning next to a neon sign.

I prefer candles.

[Solomon]

7. Exactly. Just like Obama said, anybody can get their 15

minutes just by being rude and obnoxious.

[tomm2thumbs]

8. is that an invitation to insult you - to get attention?

<grin> I'm kidding!!!

[thefairone]

9. Maureen Dowd just wrote a column saying Bill Clinton must be jealous of Obama

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/11/opinion/11dowd.html

[onenote]

14. one might argue that Jesse Jackson might be jealous of obama

Not saying that jesse deserves the nobel peace prize; just that one could make a case for it being as deserved as some of the past awards

[niceypoo]

10. The GOP noise machine controls the message put out by the media

EOM