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pstokely Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:10 PM
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New Jersey in Play?
Edited on Sat Sep-18-04 01:12 PM by pstokely
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:14 PM
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1. Even the Freepers find it hard to believe
That should have been your first clue!
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physaf Donating Member (279 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:18 PM
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2. it is really quite a stretch, but can the governor be
hurting us that much there?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 02:18 PM
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7. No, and I have no idea why you would even think it might be true
The idea that McGreevy is hurting Kerry in NJ is as believable as the idea that Bush* might win NJ.
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featherman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:23 PM
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3. Nah
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shrumbody Donating Member (13 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:23 PM
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4. Well, I'm no campaign strategist
(not even on TV), but NJ is among the bluest of the blue states. If it's in play, we're toast!
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NinetySix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:26 PM
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14. Oh No!!!
Now that you put it that way, I'm deeply concerned. Thanks for pointing that out to us all, BRAND NEW POSTER (Sep 17, 2004).
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:27 PM
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15. You're right. I'm going to just give up hope now and stay home.
Thank you for enlightening me.
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goodwalt Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:27 PM
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5. Nonsense
Just more poll shenanigans. New Jersians? ites? whoever they are- they vote for who the Boss tells them to vote for.
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goodwalt Donating Member (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 01:27 PM
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6. Nonsense
Just more poll shenanigans. New Jersians? ites? whoever they are- they vote for who the Boss tells them to vote for.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 02:20 PM
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8. NO n/t
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iwantmycountryback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 02:21 PM
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9. Don't worry about it
Kerry will be up by 10 again in the blink of an eye.
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Doosh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 02:21 PM
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10. unfortunately, it looks like it
though even I can't get much of a feel from living here. At this point in 2000 gore ran away with NJ. Kerry shouldn't be having this much trouble keeping it safe. It's unfathomable really.
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bklyncowgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:09 PM
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11. Democrats not visible in NJ
As I drive around Monmouth county, I see signs of Republican organization everywhere from lawn signs for Bush and Cheney and from congressional candidates. The NJ GOP have also put out charming little signs saying Democrats = Corruption.

Except for the folks who've made the effort to purchase their own Kerry signs, the Democrats have no visible presence. It is rather disheartening.

Jim McGreevey, I think, has hurt the party--not because of the fact that he's gay but because he, with the most incredible stupidity imaginable, appointed the object of his affection to a $100,000 + a year job as head of homeland security, a job for which he was manifestly unqualified. In addition, one of his top fund raisers has been caught putting the strong arm on a guy who needed some government help and added together it don't look good.

Finally, the perception that Bush is stronger in defending the country against terrorism, as preposterous as it seems to me, probably has some pull here. Especially in my area, nearly everyone knows someone who was personally effected by 9/11.

On the other hand, the economy is not good--alot of people are being laid off in the high tech sectors. A great many people here despise Bush. I think Kerry will still win here but it's no longer a given as it was before.
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SemiCharmedQuark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:21 PM
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12. WHY are we still trusting polls?
Geez, remember what happened after the RNC? "10 point bounce! We're dooomed!" Yeah where's that bounce now? Where it always was, only in the wet dreams of Bush. Gee whiz, get over it people. We have more important things to worry about than what some idiotic SKEWED poll has to say. Here is the basic fact: Bush's main constituency is made up of White, Protestant, Males. Wherever they are, Bush might win. But in large cities with a diverse population? Nah. The Freepers are also saying NY is in play. Riiight...the RNC had so many supporters. That's why they ran 2 seconds after Bush gave his speech. :eyes:
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-18-04 03:24 PM
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13. The poll which they are touting was done during 9/11 festivities
and since then the 9/11 Jersey widows have come out for Kerry. Also, I think the controversy with Gov. McGreevey may have hurt Dems in general, but NJ will be (Knock on wood) Democratic blue in November.
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