Time to stop infighting. Assume we're going to win. Positives from Conason

[Merlin]

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We are now too far into the battle to permit ourselves the luxury of second guessing. Time for everyone to man his/her battle stations.

Do not waver. Do not doubt. We must believe we are going to win this thing! Let's roll these bastards!

It's time to maintain discipline in the ranks. After a lot of earlier carping, I, for one, personally commit myself to this mode.

Meantime, here are a few morsels of today's Conason (Salon) to brighten our day.
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Kerry rising

Rumors of John Kerry's demise have been greatly exaggerated -- too often by doomsaying Dems themselves. A host of new polls suggest it's the president who should be trembling.

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By Joe Conason

Sept. 17, 2004 | To listen to certain Democrats these days is to learn that the presidential election is all but over, apparently because John Kerry slipped behind George W. Bush in a few national polls last week. These sad doomsayers whine constantly that Kerry "isn't tough enough," when what they are really talking about are their own mental weaknesses. Much of the anger and determination displayed by liberals over the past year seems suddenly to have deflated into fear and resignation.

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And there is no reason to give up, regardless of any flaws in the Kerry-Edwards campaign or the Bush-Cheney convention "bounce." That bounce has fallen flat, returning the presidential race to a virtual dead heat, according to several new polls.

The new Harris Interactive/Wall Street Journal poll, completed on Sept. 13, shows Kerry with 48 percent, Bush with 47 percent and Ralph Nader with 2 percent. Those results were nearly identical to the last Harris poll, taken before the Republican Convention, when Kerry was ahead by 1 point. The most noticeable shift in this poll's results is that the 10-point lead Bush enjoyed last June is gone. More than half of the respondents think Bush "doesn't deserve to be reelected ."

The most recent poll by the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press shows the Bush lead falling precipitously during the past week. Between Sept. 8 and Sept. 10, Bush was ahead of Kerry by 54 to 38 among "likely voters" -- but between Sept. 11 and Sept. 14, that gap diminished to Bush 47 versus Kerry 46.

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(Of course, placing too much confidence in horse-race polls is a mistake. In the final weeks of the 2000 election, major polls showed Bush ahead of Al Gore by three to 13 points -- and then Gore won the popular vote tally by more than 500,000.)

Aside from Newport's observation, there are other reasons for Bush to worry about voters souring permanently on him before Nov. 2. The most salient is the war in Iraq. A growing majority of people now understand that they were misled by the Bush administration, that the war is going poorly, and that the White House has no viable exit strategy. As public focus returns to the consequences of this administration's incompetence, John Kerry can still seize the opportunity to regain his lead -- if he dares.


Much More at:

http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2004/09/17/polls/index.html

[JuniperLea]

1. stay away from polls i say!

they are meant to divide us! look at all the in-fighting it causes around here! diversion and division, that's all it is!

this story tells on itself and on polls in general right here!

"(Of course, placing too much confidence in horse-race polls is a mistake. In the final weeks of the 2000 election, major polls showed Bush ahead of Al Gore by three to 13 points -- and then Gore won the popular vote tally by more than 500,000.)"

[21winner]

8. And watch out for the soreheads.

Some here are not over the defeat of their hero in the primaries. Its always I will vote for Kerry,But....
They could do better.

[Inland]

2. Conason on Franken's show

pointed out that the dems have several members who try to make headlines second guessing campaigns. I agree--dems think that sophistication and expertise requires quibbling and the papers AND PUBBIE TALKING HEADS love to talk about campaign problems, one becaue it distracts from a problem like Iraq, two because its a cheap and easy way to slam Kerry.

On the other hand, pubs realize that their bread is buttered by being cheerleaders and taking crumbs from the corporate table after Bush wins. So they never second guess Bush, just as Bush never second guesses his own disasterous policies. Nobody from that crowd let's on the emperor has no clothes.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Reagan figured this out a long time ago

and the Democrats need to apply it as well,

The eleventh Commandment, "though shall not attack any fellow Republican." We have seen incredible discipline with the pubbies and this is why.

Time people learn the same this side of the aile.

problem is Liberals are natural leaders, so doing that is harder

[Merlin]

5. I think it's a matter of timing.

There's a time to infight, and a time to pull together. As for us, now: the siege is ON.

[Catfight]

3. I take what the cable news networks say and know the exact opposite

is true, because they are such big Bush propaganda machines. So when polls come out that say Kerry is behind, I know in my heart, Kerry is kicking ass! First off, WOMEN will not vote for Bush, there were a million women in front of the WH to speak loud and clear, they will not vote for Bush, so we will dig our heals into the earth and be ever more firm, in voting for Kerry! There a many many Kerry supporters out there, we're just a calmer more intellectual group of people, more civilized.

Don't fret, we're going to 'smoke Bush,' out of the WH and bring the Bush dynasty to it's knees.

Again, I'm looking forward to justice being served and the Cheney/Bush trials to begin. No pardons for these cronies.

[Gyre]

6. There is no divide among us

re: who we want as president. A divide about tactics and venting of frustration doesn't really constitute a "divide" when the issue is who we support for president.

Gyre

[Libby2]

7. We are going to win

You will see some repubs voting for Kerry, but I seriously doubt you will see any dems voting for Bush.