Bill Maher

[Demi_Babe]

coming up on HBO...should be good!

[Cha]

1. Who is on tonight, Demi?

Thanks!

[dennis4868]

2. Tonight....

Bill Maher returns with a new edition Friday, September 17 at 11 pm. Bill's guests will include: author Kitty Kelly, correspondent Christiane Amanpour, actress Julie Delpy, professor Cornel West and satirist PJ O'Rourke.

[Demi_Babe]

3. should be a good one

[Cha]

4. WHOA!! Kitty Kelley!

My Hero!

I don't see any obvious freeptards!

[Cha]

5. toby keith's head is blown completely

out of his Ass by the hurricane!


bush got a call from Alabama National Guard and said it wasn't here, outta habit.

[umtalal]

44. I don't have HBO please tell me about kitty.

[Cush]

6. Kitty Kelley up first

Says the WH is most liekly warning the Networks about the book.

Kitty says that if the mainstream press had done its job, she wouldn't have needed to write the book

[Cha]

8. Yeah!

"Mainstream media has been brutal to you"..Bill Maher

"Started by the White House"..Kitty Kelley "from a bunker"! LOL!

"Wouldn't have this book if the press corp had done their job..it's stuff they've known about for years"..Kitty

"Found my calling in Life..destroying the Eco system of the Planet EArth"..Kitty

"Why are the rules different for this man?"..Kitty

"I'm away from the Pretzel" Kitty

"Why can't we find out what happened in Alabama in the '70's"..Bill

"What the media is missing is that bush had 6 months added on to his stint" Kitty

"You be careful Lady..you know what happened to uday and the other brother"..Bill

Bill cracks Kitty up!

And what is this..Peace Kills?!!

[Cha]

9. PJ O'Rouke says the Kerry campaign has to

"fake" the evidence! IT'S NOT THE KERRY CAMPAIGN! SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CORRECT HIM.

They are ganging up on Kerry!

I'm turning this shit off!

[fairfaxvadem]

12. Oh, I completely agree....

I cannot believe the piling on and I was so hoping Prof West would cut through the crap on Kerry and the memos crap and that he has no voice.

It's Bill's show, but that just pissed me off. Clearly he hadn't been listening to Kerry this week.

And I never could stand PJ O'Rourke

[Cha]

14. pj o'rouke is slime personified...

he obviously thinks he's so cool and the answer to mankind's problems when in reality has LOSER written all over him.

[Cush]

7. Kitty: "Why are the rules different for the Bush's?"

[Cush]

10. PJ O'Rourke makes a joke about killing Democrats

Saying that Fort Sumter could happen again

[Cha]

11. They are excoriating Kerry..

I don't need this Shit!

[mbali]

13. The show sucks tonight

PJ O'Rourke claims that Kerry "faked this stuff"," i.e., the memos and Maher goes right along with the riff as if this is true.

This show is usually pretty good, but tonight it seems to be one big Bash Kerry Fest.

[Cha]

15. And they don't even know what they are talking about

and go on and on as if they do..bill maher should get a lot of e-mails on this letting him know that we know what's up ..even if he doesn't!

[jayfish]

19. All Of Their Info. Is Really Stale.

They are like 24-72 hours behind the curve. Bill has one show to do a week, he should study up more.

[buycitgo]

25. he's a lazy, self-involved, semi-informed, occasionally funny,

VERY prejudicial egomaniac

tonight's show proves that beyond any doubt

[sonicx]

27. he has an odd obsession with drugs too. nt

[jayfish]

28. Yeouch!!!

I still like him though. :thumbsup:

Jay

[buycitgo]

29. I do, too, but only SOMEtimes

He's vert often infuriatingly misinformed, as he was tonight

he's at his best when he starts going off on what a worthless tit Bush is, but he doesn't do that often enough for my tastes

more often than not, his tangents are lamely irrelevant

[Cha]

34. Precisely!

"Stale" is an apt description of what went on there after Kitty left!

I don't know how Christanne was..Did anyone hear what she had to say?

[agingdem]

21. Question...

Do you really care what these people think? For years I've listened to the pundits bash Clinton and now Kerry and it finally occurred to me that no one is listening to them. As I've said before, they are so sanctimonious, so self-serving, and so impressed with the garbage that comes out of their mouths that they have become caricatures. They isolate themselves from the rest of the country, yet, insist that they have their fingers on the pulse of America. Instead of hanging on to every piece of nonsense that they spew, don't watch, I promise you'll feel better.

[mbali]

I hope you're right

But I worry that these people are helping to create an overall atmosphere and context that DOES have an impact on how people think about and view these issues.

I hope you're right and I'm wrong, though.

[agingdem]

33. Look...

Kerry and Edwards are running a grassroots campaign. The TV networks don't give our guys much "face time" but they are filling stadiums and gyms all across the country. No matter how hard the Bushies try to stop our boys (talking points, ridicule, etc) people are listening and liking what they hear.

[umtalal]

57. In India Ghandi won against the powerful Congress Party

thru grass roots. It is smart for Kerry and Edwards to do it this way. It never occured to me they are doing exactly this way.

[Cha]

31. After Kitty Kelley's segment ..

I had to turn it off..it was getting out of hand with gratuitious Kerry Bashing.

And they didn't know what they were talking about..just repeating naziwing talking points!!

I guess when Kerry wins they will be exposed for the inconsequentials that they are.

Did julie delpy ever have anything to say? :)

On Edit~ Thanks for the reminder about the Grassroots! I don't hear much of that word but it's sooo true!

[shrub chipper]

69. I agree.

I realy don't think anyone pays attention to the pundits except other pundits and hopeless political junkies (I am not going to mention any names;)

[GimmeDANEger]

16. nice line from an asshole

Cornell: "You'd give up viagra for a cure for AIDs, wouldn't you?"

PJ: "It would depend if I had AIDs...no, I'm not THAT Republican."

[Cha]

17. See! ASSHOLE!

[Cush]

18. Christiane Amanpour up now

[sonicx]

20. the freeper was aweful

nothing but snarky, crude remarks. the other 2 were boring.

get some entertaining people, Bill!

[GimmeDANEger]

23. you didn't find Cornell interesting? n/t

[sonicx]

24. yeah, kinda

but he still went along with the kerry bashing. if want to see that crap, i'll watch cnn. :)

[Cha]

26. Exactly! Especially when they don't have ANY

of their damn facts straight! What the hell do they do.. watch cnn?

[sonicx]

30. People at DU would do 10X better on Maher's show...

which shows how sad the state of the 'liberal media' is.

[buycitgo]

35. ANY show

how many dem surrogates are not only not as well informed as they should be, but don't outright EAT IT?

I call radio shows all the time, and, bad as I am, have more facts at hand than the hosts, or, especially the idiot wingnut callers/guests, and usually call them on their lies, distortions, without much trouble

[jayfish]

32. It Doesn't Sound Like Christiane Does...

or she would know that CNN ain't talking about any of the stuff she just did. And that's too bad.

Jay

[buycitgo]

36. why do you think they almost NEVER use her anymore?

[jayfish]

37. I Know, I Know.

When she is on it's 2am. I felt badly for her tonight.

Jay

[buycitgo]

39. I can't even remember the last time I saw her

[jayfish]

43. I Think The Last Time I saw Her Was From The Scene Of...

a car-bombing at the gates of the Green-Zone. Might have been a month or two ago.

[Cha]

38. What did she say, jayfish?

I was thinking maybe Christianne is cnn International which I hear is totally different than cnn("Certainly Not News")?

[jayfish]

41. She Is Under The Impression That...

CNN has been telling us since post "mission accomplished" how bad things have been getting in Iraq. Other than that (which I cannot blame her for) she was very good.

Jay

[Cha]

46. Wow! She must be so busy covering Iraq

or wherever that she just assumes that cnn is doing it's job.

Maybe after some people see her on maher's ..they will clue her in?

Thanks!

[jayfish]

51. She Probably Gets A CNNi Feed Or Two.

Makes You Wonder What CNNs' raw feeds look like. I remember way back when my aunt an uncle had a c-band satellite. There was a station that was nothing but raw news feeds. It was some crazy stuff. I was there the 4th of July weekend that we shot down that Iranian Airliner in the Gulf. It was horrific. Too bad we cant get that kind of news today... then we could really decide.

Jay

[Pirate Smile]

22. Perfect - * is now Baghdad Bob

[NEDem]

54. I had the exact same thought tonight

while watching the show. That's too weird.

[GaryL]

40. Bill Maher proves his worth(lessness).

I'm getting really bored with the nationwide Kerry bashing. We he tries to explain what he plans as president, he's accused of being all over the map. If his sticks to one subject for more than a single day, he's accused of not explaining what he's going to do as president. If he attacks, he's desperate and if he doesn't he's accused of being weak. If he's down if the polls, his campaign is in disarray. If he's up, it's a flawed poll. If Kerry is not president-elect Kerry on Nov. 3, we can rest assured that the fourth estate, along with Maher and company helped make it happen. And if we loose this one, there's no doubt that the dems will be much further marginalized than today.

[Cha]

45. Well, like our poster SandraBaskind explained

above..this is a Grassroots Org and People all over the Country are liking what they hear..

I've had many positive reactions to Kerry today from People who think...

One woman told me that an Episcapalian(sp?) Minister asked her where he could get one of those Kerry/Edwards pins I gave her because he was a republican but he's voting for Kerry!

A gave a nurse downstairs a Kerry/Edwards bumpersticker today that she had asked yesterday .."where she could get one"..It turns out I went to work today and someone had brought a stack in for whomever.

One customer at work told me he hadn't voted since 1964 when he voted for rockefellar and he made such a mess in NY that he vowed never to vote again! "This is different", he said.."I'm going to vote for Kerry!"

[buycitgo]

47. there's a very simple way to put your very apt explanation:

he's being fricking GORED to death by the media, from all sides, all angles, including DINOs

[gulliver]

42. Julie Delpy

Said people voting for Bush were voting for a "weak man." She nailed Bush on his war (avoidance) record. I don't know. Maybe it's just the middle-aged guy in me, but when a beatiful, well-spoken, intelligent woman like that paints a man as a coward, he gets paint on him.

[Cha]

48. Cool! I bet

pj o'rouke was frothing when she made her case so elegantly!

She sounds like she was the only one who knew what they were talking about! Sorry Cornell..I'm just not interested right now in all that Kerry bashing!

[buycitgo]

55. she became a US citizen so she could VOTE AGAINST BUSH!

said that on AAR

she is VERY cool!

[sonicx]

58. what show and date? nt

[buycitgo]

64. are you serious?

I have no idea....I just remember her saying it, and being very impressed with her

it may even have been some other show, but I don't think so

it may have been a dream, but I don't think so

[Clinton Crusader]

49. I noticed people were laughing less and less

and sometimes there was silence at PJ O'Rourke.

I like Bill Maher, but sometimes the people he chooses to 'admire' really makes me shake my head.

And saying the ONLY diff. between Kerry and * is Kerry thinks people like him better is such over dramatized bullshit.
:kick:

[Cha]

52. It's repugnant bullshit!

He's rendering himself insignificant!

[Demi_Babe]

53. I was disappointed in the show tonight

what has happened to Bill???

[sonicx]

56. his jokes were below tasteless...

paraphrase....

prof: 'wouldn't you rather find an AIDS cure?'

PJ: 'depends on if i had AIDS'

:puke:

[MirrorAshes]

50. I'm in love with Julie Delpy.

oh yes.

[LTR]

59. OK, flame me

It wasn't a bad show, but not one of Bill's better ones.

P.J. O'Rourke is one of the better conservative pundits/writers out there. The man has written some funny books, though I agree with little of what he writes about. He's just a smarmy Reagan Republican. He was kinda dorky tonight, though. Tried too hard to play the stereotypical Republican, but I just can't believe he has a whole basement full of assault weapons, like he claimed. One of the few times I've actually seen him on TV.

Cornell West was terrible. Sounded like a babbling idiot. Tried to act too smart and went way over everyone's heads. Disappointing, since I've heard how smart the guy is.

Julie Delpy was good when she actually talked. She was spot-on about Iraq and how a real man is not one that starts a war, but one who finishes it. I was impressed. But she didn't talk much.

Bill's monologue and his interviews with Kitty and Christianne were very good. And I give him credit in that he seemed to carry the entire weight of the show while Cornell went into some drug-enduced stupor and Julie didn't know when to open her mouth. P.J. was hamming it up too much and was somewhat incoherent in parts.

I actually understood some of what they said about Kerry. Granted, our so-called 'liberal media' does a terrible job of covering him, but our short attention span society isn't getting his message, at least not as well as we at DU do. Gotta remember - most people aren't as enlightened about what's going on like we are.

Bill had some good rants about pharmaceuticals and greed in America.

Overall, not a great show, but not a bad one. Cornell West is terrible, and needs to sober up and get out of the sixties. I imagine P.J. would have actually been entertaining if he had an effective communicator to spar with (though he'd still be mouthing stupid GOP bullshit). But nobody seemed to gel. Not a lot of conflict and personality melding.

Okay, you may flame me now.

[sonicx]

60. of the panel, Julie was ok but as you said...

she barely talked. West seemed kinda 'out there' and PJ was just an ass and not funny at all. there was lots of awkward silence. it even made me uncomfortable and you could see that Bill was too. His show needs at least one great guest to be worth watching. tonite had 2 bad ones and 1 ok one.

Kitty's interview seemed to lack rhythm and Christianne interview was alright.

[buycitgo]

61. mostly agree, but NOT about PJO

I've read several of his books, til I realized how increasingly RW he'd been getting

AND unfunny

that's the key

he is NOT funny; wasn't really that funny back in the old Lampoon days....people then didn't like him.....ask Tony Hendra, who IS funny, still, except when flacking his new book

I've seen him on TV, and, not only is he NOT funny, he repeats the SAME unfunny crap over and over, showing how uncreative he is.

he's like Dennis Miller, trying to make fun of those out of power

it's really that simple

what must it have been like to be the court jester to Attila the Hun?

[DeadHead67]

63. P.J. O'Rourke wrote for the National Lampoon into the 70's. . . .

. . .and was THEN funny. He is NO LONGER FUNNY! He is a self-satisfied, ass-licking republican PRICK, and,(need I repeat?)NO LONGER FUNNY! I think the viagra/aids comment is typical of his idea of humor. End of Rant. Sorry! As a 60's guy I feel VERY betrayed by assholes like that.

[buycitgo]

66. same here......did you see my post above yours?

I'd love to see some of the old stuff

wonder if his was the material that wansn't funny

I remember him being dissed lately by others...see Hendra above

remember the geographical pun contest?

''Kenya give me a Tokyo hash?''

[LTR]

68. Wasn't he always a Republican?

The AIDS joke was crass, but it was kinda funny because that's what I expect from a guy like him. As long as you don't take it seriously, it was funny in the proper frame of things. I do like tasteless humor once in a while.

I get the feeling that O'Rourke's whole Republican thing is just a schtick. He seems to be working overtime to put over his asshole bit. He doesn't sell himself well on TV, though his books are better than most of the conservative fare out there (if you can call that a compliment).

[Uzybone]

62. Maher=Moron

the fact that he got blacklisted by idiotic conservatives doesnt make him a genius. He spouts a lot of GOP spin as facts. But when he is right he sure is right, and funny too.

[LTR]

67. One thing I like about Maher

Is that he's not a partisan cheerleader. There's plenty of people who do just that for one side or the other. I like a guy who just speaks his mind, without worrying which demographic of his audience he's gonna piss off.

And just because he rips on Kerry once in a while does not make him a GOP whore. He calls it as he sees it. I don't agree with all of his opinions (especially the Kerry one) but at least he explains his reasons. I do agree with his assessment that the 1971 Kerry would be more of a powerhouse than the 2004 version.

Maher is no media whore, and he even lost his ABC show because he didn't fall in line following 9/11 and said some unpopular things that were not exactly 'patriotically correct'. People demanded his head on a stick and he refused to back down. I respect that.

He says what he wants, and while some of it is pretty over the top, a lot of is hilarious and often tastelessly funny. Believe me, he is not a Republican stooge. Far from it.

[MirrorAshes]

65. Maher should NOT have let him get away with the Kerry/Memos bullshit.

I'm very dissapointed in him. I may write a letter, others should too.