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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:43 AM
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Poll question: Who had a rougher first year, Clinton or Obama?
I have to go with Clinton. Obama may have more on his plate, but the entire first year of the Clinton presidency was riddled with screwups---which were not quickly corrected.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 09:51 AM
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1. By this time in '93
Health care reform was already torpedoed. Obama is using rope-a-dope very effectively, as the Repubs turn into teabaggers bashing each other on who is most constipated,...err, make that conservative.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:02 AM
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2. Obama was met with the worst financial crisis and economy .
The Republicans went after each of them savagely. From the
get go Scaife and Conservatives had dispatched "investigators"
to Arkansas to dig up dirt on Clinton.

The same approach-- destroy Obama has been the Gop approach.

Obama had more on his plate but the GOP strategy is similar.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:09 AM
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3. Obama has encountered much, MUCH more difficult problems but Clinton had a rougher time in a less
difficult environment.

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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:10 AM
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4. Your question can be parsed too ways - as you suggest
One way is who faced the tougher circumstances. That is not even close - Obama came in with 2 ongoing wars and the worst economy since the great depression. Obama also faced a far more radicalized Republican party. (He had a few less Democrats, but his Republicans included Specter, Chaffee, and Jeffords. )

The other is who had more difficulties putting any of their agenda in place. Here, I think it goes Clinton fared less well. Obama was able to pass the stimulus package that had funding for many things that our side wanted. He also is well on the way to signing the biggest increase in health insurance since the 1960s.
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fugop Donating Member (901 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:21 AM
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7. I concur!
I think Obama had tougher external factors at work, while Clinton had more internal challenges (not necessarily all self inflicted, but I think he was a little slower to get all his ducks in a row). Obama seemed to hit the ground running, perhaps because all the external insanity gave him no choice.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:41 AM
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10. Totally correct. Obama has more to deal with, Clinton had less and had a harder time dealing with
what he had. However, Clinton did bounce back after the 1994 congressional elections that were a disaster for the Dems. He was resilient.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:45 AM
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12. True
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Lord Helmet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:47 PM
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13. +1
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:12 AM
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5. Clinton. No comparison.
Jennifer Flowers, healthcare reform, Zoe Baird, Jocelyn Elders. It's no contest.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:17 AM
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6. Gays in the military and a Senate that would not vote for his budget. nt
Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 10:18 AM by Captain Hilts
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:28 AM
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8. Rougher in terms of challenges faced, or rougher in terms of 'lack of smooth' in execution?
I agree with you in that Clinton's first year was rockier.

If we're talking about who had greater challenges going in, it's Obama.
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mkultra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 AM
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9. Obama: The recession save was pretty big
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 10:42 AM
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11. 2 wars and economic collapse and being black with our devisive M$M

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-03-09 03:51 PM
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14. I'm with others when I say your question isn't clear.
Clinton obviously struggled more than Obama in his first year. That's why his approval mostly stayed below 50% throughout 1993.

However, the challenges were rougher for Obama than Clinton.

:shrug:
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