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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:32 PM
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Crossfire: Kerry Vs. Cheney
CNN calling it the major issue, as of now

why not?

hope they cover Cheney's speeches back when, re: being in favor of lifting sanctions against TERROR nations Iraq, Iran, Libya, for supporting Hezbollah, among others
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:33 PM
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1. is it taking a full MINUTE to load again today for anybody else?
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:34 PM
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2. Bush, vote for me or die. Kerry, vote for me and live better! simple.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:35 PM
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4. tuckhead waves off, spastically, Begala's note that Cheney
is getting more money from Halliburton than he does as VP, from the American people
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CarolynEC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:34 PM
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3. Kind of tells us who the REAL president is, doesn't it? (eom)
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Karmadillo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:36 PM
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5. Was Tucker castrated lately? Kind of shrill today.
n/t
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:37 PM
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7. he's like that every single day
the ONLY time he lets anybody talk is when Begala introduces a topic

every other time, he talks over him as soon as Begala starts in
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:36 PM
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6. Tucker really needs to be fired.
He doesn't make any good points, just screams and whines. It's sad and embarassing to watch.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:37 PM
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8. good point.....turning on AAR again.....somebody who can stand this
keep tabs, pls
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:41 PM
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13. I say let him there. If a pub watches, maybe they'll see how much
of an ass he is. Even my son, who voted for Shrub in 2000 saw Tucker once, and asked who the heck he was...he's a real ass! And Tucher wasn't even being that bad the day he saw him.

BTW, I think I've converted him to Kerry this time!
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:43 PM
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15. isn't is stunning that PBS would give HIM, of all people, his own show?
they really are a right wing propaganda mill now, with the obvious exception of NOW, the occasional POV or Frontline

look at their other 'Public Service' shows

what a joke
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SharonAnn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:52 PM
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23. His own show, as if he's the professional equivalent of Bill Moyers.
What a joke.

Tucker Carlson is a Ken doll. Kind of cute, but pretty useless.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:38 PM
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28. Another Duer said all the "news" media are trying so hard to shed
the "left wing" clain, that they've gone way too far to the right! I agree with that, and maybe that's what PBS is doing too. Another instance of the swinging pendulum.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:41 PM
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30. they've been loading up their governing board with PUGS
that's more of a reason than pressure, I think

NPR is headed by a former CIA guy, disguised as USIA

if you look at the show lineup of PBS, they've ALWAYS been lopsidedly filled with pug-oriented socio-economic swill, from Wall Street Week (where's Labor Week?), to McLaughlin, to Ben what's his name, to other business-oriented shows.

the ones that get the pub for being liberal are mostly faux liberal when close attention is paid
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agingdem Donating Member (893 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:32 PM
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33. Which is why ...
I no longer donate to PBS.
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Andromeda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:38 PM
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9. The audience is freeped.
The loud cheer and claps for pathetic Tucker are an indication that they've bussed in some Rethugs.

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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:40 PM
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12. noticed that, must be college thugs
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:38 PM
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10. Ugh, Turned It Off - Tucker is .....
disgusting
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:39 PM
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11. Bush doesn't know what to do about Iraq, so he expects Kerry to come
up with a way to fix it. Carlson wants to know if Kerry thinks it was right to invade Iraq. What's the harm in saying, "No." Wouldn't that make Kerry look more decisive? Bush's plan for sticking with something, even if it's wrong, seems to be working for him. I don't know, I'm not a campaign operative, I don't have any "big ideas" about what Kerry SHOULD do, (he actually seems to be doing pretty good lately), but I don't know what Kerry REALLY thinks about invading Iraq. Why can't he say he was misled like the rest of the country by the Bush administration's lies?
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:41 PM
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14. exactly. I find this MADDENING! at the very least, they should
just turn it around, and INSIST on making the point that it is BUSH's war, the WORST DECISION in US history! one that will HAUNT us for decades, if not forever

stuff like that
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:43 PM
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17. He can't because then next thing would be, Oh you think it would be
better is Saddam was still in power? It's a losing argument.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:53 PM
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24. Uh, yes. It would be.
Fewer dead Iraqis. Fewer dead Americans. More money in the till.

It's a win/win concept.
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Kimber Scott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:58 PM
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26. Saddam was contained and this admission is in the Bush admin's
own report. 1500 pages saying the sanctions were working. I don't know the name of the report, I missed that part of the newscast, or I'd link it here.

I don't see how Bush's speech, (paraphrasing), "Saddam would still be in power with his torture chambers and mass graves..." works. There are still torture chambers and we're filling more graves everyday.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:46 PM
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19. Bush is bad but why hasn't Kerry fixed everything yet?
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 03:46 PM by TheDonkey
Or why isn't he detailing a point by point "Dummies Guide" for Bush. :( He's a flip-flopper.
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:43 PM
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16. Begaula is blasting this as a political mistake
which it is for Halliburton.

Tucker trying to make it see like Halliburton isn't an issue but it IS. Moral values and Iraq are both issues with Halliburton. Tucker needs slapped in the face.
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:44 PM
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18. Tucker sounds like spoiled child
when he squeals like that.
I always "mute" Nofacts
but now it looks like
Tucker gets the button too.
Getting hard to watch 1/2 a show.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:46 PM
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20. hahahaha....that's what I do....makes it hard to type, rushing
for the mute button....maybe I can get one on my computer
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unfrigginreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:48 PM
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21. I heard earlier that the campaign feels that the Halliburton issue
is radioactive. I don't know what the fuck they are thinking. First, why are we having our Pres. candidate attacking the VP candidate? Second, Halliburton is trivial compared to the fiasco in Iraq. Everytime I start to feel better about things, the campaign takes a detour. Note: I have not given up - I think it's damn near impossible for us to lose this year but it sure seems that we're giving it one hell of a try.
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:00 PM
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32. Halliburton is trivial compared to the fiasco in Iraq.
I beg to differ. Halliburton is the reason we are in Iraq. Halliburton, Carlyle, Betchel, and numerous others. It is all about War Profiteering and we would be wise not to forget that. The more these huge corporations make the more they funnel back into the GOP.
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buycitgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:51 PM
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22. slimeball pug: what's Kerry's Iraq strategy, bring in the French Foreign
Legion? audience laughs, claps

Begala: FIRE BUSH! audience ERUPTS in cheers, applause!

HA

HA

HA

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:56 PM
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25. I see I'm not the only one
who thinks Tucker Carlson becomes a bigger jerk every day.

Seems he was just waiting for Bush to get a little lead so he could let his Inner Asshole out.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:03 PM
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27. as do most anal-retentive people
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:39 PM
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29. The GOP pulled this trick on Dukakis
When he lashed out against Quayle.

I'll bet this was on Rove's blastfax this morning.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 04:43 PM
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31. It should be Bush vs. Edwards, not Kerry vs. Cheney
It's true that Cheney makes a good target, that's why Edwards should be all over him, making Bush defend Cheney against OUR VP candidate.
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