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displacedyankeedem Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:42 AM
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OK Senate: Coburn (R) Falls Off Political Cliff
Seems like Coburn has hit the trifecta. See below for a better summary than I could ever provide.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/9/17/0146/61468
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greatauntoftriplets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:44 AM
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1. Good news for Brad Carson.
Though my friend in OKC tells me he's no progressive like my candidate, Barack Obama. But one more Democratic vote in the Senate will help Obama do good stuff.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 05:47 AM
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2. The Natives are Restless
Lots of Cherokees and Choctaws in my neck of the woods-and I'm talking tribal members. You don't call any treaty between the tribes and the US a joke-especially the Cherokees. Ye cats and little fishes, hasn't the man ever heard of the Trail of Tears???? Or was that just a joke too????
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LimpingLib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:04 AM
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3. Its a shame on one point there.
Like 90% of federal programs go to the wealthy , corperate welfare and tax loopholes are about $800 billion a year , "defence" is a $400+ billion boondoggle to contractors plus blows up growing economys infrastructure , interest on the debt transfering poor peoples money to bankers is $300 billion , etc.

ALL politicians trade votes on pork barrel projects so they can throw a bone to their idiotic voters who are too stupid to realize most benefits go to the wealthy and this is just a way to get elected plus make poor folk feel like the government is helping them.

I just told a guy that urged me to run for congress that people of character cant get elected because if you try to tell stupid idiots with their hands out that the wealthy will get all the spoils and pork barrel projects just mask the larger reality then you cant get elected. Your primary opponent will smash you over the head.You must have low character to get elected.

I hate to see Coburn get bashed for this because this is one of the few areas he is right on.I only remember one race in my life where both canidates actualy believed in honest debate and avoided cheap shots attacking the other for voting against pork barrel projects.Both were honest and opposed wasteful programs that were just an insult to voters intelligence though the irony is that voters REALLY ARE idiots lol. Anyway that was the 1998 Russ Feingold Mark Neuman race. I hated to see 2 high character canidates have to run against each other. Neuman won both his elections by 51% for his congressional seat and it was so close because he told his district that he wouldnt vote for pork because it was what causes all congresscritters to trade votes "saying Ill support yours if you support mine".

The Feingold Neuman race actualy was based on each attacking the other for SUPPORTING the most minor of wasteful projects lol. Talk about a switch. Every other race has canidates bragging about their own bacon thrown to their looser voters. They even got into arguments over fundng minor programs like studying cow farts.Became a huge issue, some little program that costed less than almost any other pork project.
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Big Al from WI Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:00 PM
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7. I wouldn't think so highly of Neumann
Maybe he was a true conservative (more than we can say about many of these Republicans) but he was still a slimeball, the way he ran his campaign. There were still plenty of cheap shots taken by him. Neumann may have had more political integrity than most but certainly not personal integrity.
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 06:32 AM
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4. What a nitwit.
So typical of a repuke.
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displacedyankeedem Donating Member (538 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:42 PM
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5. New Poll: Carson (D) 42, Coburn (R) 35
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 02:47 PM
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6. Smelling more and more like a Dem pick-up in the Senate!
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 03:00 PM
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8. Be careful - Many smears yet to come. Carl Rove is not going to
let one of his candidates go down without a fight. I am sure there are Carson smears cued up and ready to go - also you can bet that the woman who blew the whistle on Coburn will be attacked personally before this is all over.
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