Interesting stuff on Parlock from a Huntington, WV message board

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Loads like a pig, so I'll cherrypick some of the jucier stuff:

http://huntingtonnews.net/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001898

HerdLady910
posted September 16, 2004 09:22 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040916/480/wvrs10309162250
I guess the younger the opposition is, the more points you earn with the party.

Sheesh.


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The Great Society
posted September 16, 2004 11:11 PM

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This was very unfortunate, but EVERY effort was taken to prevent this. When Phil Parlock came to the gate, he was checked for signs (Both campaigns prohibit bringing in outside signs to events) and asked by several volunteers not to cause any trouble.
After he got in the event and pulled out the sign he was not supposed to have, people in the crowd simply tried to stand in front of him. The sign wasn't torn out of his hands until he verbally provoked people in the crowd. Throughout all of this, he was repeatedly asked to leave.

The story here is not that someone ripped the sign out of his hands and made the girl cry. The story is: what kind of father puts their child in a situation like this? I've seen him do this or something like this at several events. He puts his own children in situations where people will be hostile to them so that he can make some half-assed political statement. It's irresponsible and unfair to his children.

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HerdLady910
posted September 16, 2004 11:23 PM

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Oh puhleze.
He "provoked" them?

What kind of a father puts their kid in a situation like this? The question is what kind of people take away a 3 year old's sign and rip it up in front of her, "provoked" or not?

Why am I even bothering?

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Brenda
posted September 17, 2004 02:46 AM

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Yes ma'am, he provoked them. Phil gave his son a sign and pushed the boy in front of him. Some young democrats tried to cover Phil's sign with their own. The boy dropped the sign and a worker grabbed at it. Phil then shoved the kid. When Phil's sign was covered up he placed his young daughter on his shoulders and gave her the sign. The girl was terrified by the people chanting and her father's actions. He used his children as pawns. He did not come to do anything other than disrupt the event and he used his children as a means to an end. He exchanged some angry words with the Kerry supporters when they attempted to hold their signs in front of his but none of them were physical with him. Now while I may think he possibly should have been left alone, I have none, nada, NO respect for a man going into a situation he knows is going to be heated and using his children as frickin targets.

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mrmajestyk
posted September 17, 2004 03:29 AM

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2 quick comments, this was at the Tri State Airport, I did not think this is classified asa campaign event. Why would the people who do nothing but protest any time a Bush even comes around get pisssed when the Kerry/Edwards campaign comes around and someone protests.
It takes a group of real fine people to take a sign from a child, whether the parent put it in the child's hands or not. If it was the other way around there would be outrage.


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Brenda
posted September 17, 2004 03:33 AM

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Bill. READ. Comprehend. It's hard with tunnel vision but you can do it.
They did not take the sign from the child's hands...he dropped it. PHIL took the sign from his daughter himself.
Why do I think he came to cause trouble? There was no time for him to speak to reporters after the event to exchange information yet Phil went to the top of the hill and immediately called a reporter to give him his daughter's name, etc. He had to exchange numbers with him before hand and clue him in that something would happen. This is not the first time he's pulled this stunt and he was asked to please play nice.

But you go on thinking as you want, Bill. I have no expectations of you to see anyone's viewpoint but your own.


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mrmajestyk
posted September 17, 2004 04:27 AM

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Brenda, why would a father take the sign from his own child and rip it up? Talk about tunnel vision.
Besides when do you ever see anything from others viewpoint?

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mugreen
posted September 17, 2004 05:02 AM

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Phil is trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill. This is his normal for him. We were not allow signs or umbrellas so why did he hide a sign, if not to cause trouble.
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Rex Bowers
posted September 17, 2004 05:52 AM

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I'm not totally sure I understand the situation. Did a Bush supporter show up at a Kerry event with a sign he wasn't supposed to have? Did he take his children to this event and try to use them as sign bearers?
Then Brenda is right. What kind of parent puts his children in that position? You won't, I assume, try to convince me that these children, at their ages, hold strong political views of their own?

Remember what happened to two Kerry supporters at the Bush rally in Charleston? How do you arrest someone for trespassing on private property, when the property in question belongs to the State of WV and was paid for with tax dollars? They were ARRESTED, for heaven't sake, for doing what was done at Tri-State. Would you be more comfortable if they had arrested these kids?

The behavior of Kerry supporters who would confront children is reprehensible. The behavior of a parent who would put his children INTO that situation is such that I would call it child endangerment... and his kids should be taken away from him for it.


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Citizen X
posted September 17, 2004 06:57 AM
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Phil has an incredible ability to provoke anyone in any situation very quickly. I've seen him do it in situations that needed no provocation on several occasions. It's just his nature. I think Phil set it up to cause as big a stink as possible. That's also his nature.

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Jerome
posted September 17, 2004 07:16 AM

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That's exactly what Phil did.
Mr M
1 - The signs were hidden, I believe, in the leg of his pants so they had been mangled already by body sweat and crumpling. They easily fell apart. He reached down to retrieve them as Edwards came off the bus.
2 - Rex, the stop in Charleston was not billed as a campaign stop, if I remember correctly. It was a presidential visit that was paid for by the government, not by Bush's campaign funds. In that case I feel people have a right to express what they want if it's by peaceable means.


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mrmajestyk
posted September 17, 2004 07:38 AM

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I can agree with you about some of this Rex, I do question having a young child at an event like this. I also condemn anyone from an opposing side doing anything disrespectful in front of a small child.

I took my 2 stepsons, one is 10, the other is 17 to the Bush 4th of July Event at the capital, and both boys were given the choice to stay home or go to the event, they both wanted to go.

I will say that both of my stepsons do have Political Views, they both go to church and are very conservative. The oldest has very strong Political Leanings and the youngest watches the news and I let them form their own opinions. The easiest way to make them change to a position I may not agree with is to force only one view on them. I try to let them know that they need to have respect for The President no matter if the President happens to be a Democrat or a Republican.


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Jerome
posted September 17, 2004 08:28 AM


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How bout respect for everyone or is that out of question?
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Tinphat Tygar
Posted September 17, 2004 08:50 AM
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if the airport were reserved for kerry, they would have the right to prevent people from holding signs up- if people were just meeting the airplane, then parlock had every right to voice his opinion. if he went looking for trouble that was wrong, but you cannot justify ripping signs out of a three year olds hands. there is no defense of that.
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Cyndi McReynolds
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posted September 17, 2004 10:17 AM
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For the Record, There were not supposed to be any signs brought in without proior approval from the secret service. Steelworkers Local 37 brought a banner to support the Kerry/Edwards ticket, but were not allowed to bring it in because the secret service did not have a chance to inspect it first.
It seems to me that if signs in support were not allowed, then signs in opposition should not be allowed either.

This man violated secret service orders and placed his children in a potentially dangerous situation by doing so. I feel badly for the children, but I have no sympathy for their father.

What kind of example is he setting by encouraging his children to violate rules set out by the secret service?


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[Kathy in Cambridge]

1. Great find, RatTerrier!

:toast:

[LTR]

3. Got the link from Atrios

Wish it would load a little faster, though.

[janx]

2. Not surprising that Parlock called the reporter. The disgusting

thing is how he uses his children on these little forays of his.

What's the URL of the message board?

[LTR]

4. Ooops!

http://huntingtonnews.net/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=1&t=001898

[Kathy in Cambridge]

6. Can't get it to load

too much traffic maybe?

[sugarcookie]

7. Can't get in

through the link. Can you elaborate for the curious? :)

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8. I can't get in either

I posted all of the first page, but couldn't get into the second page.

I think their server fried. Doubt they're accustomed to all this traffic.

[girl gone mad]

5. self-delete

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9. Thanks for posting, RatTerrier!!!!

Well done -- :toast:

[NewYorkerfromMass]

10. Nice to read reasoned dialogue. eom