Bob Dole calls on John Kerry to demand that MoveOn.org take down ad

[npincus]

Fuck him, the fucking hypocrite. He seemed happy to endorese the purple-heart-smearing Swift Boat Liars.

Statement by Former Senator Bob Dole
Fri Sep 17 2004 00:39:35 ET

ARLINGTON, VA -- Former Senator Bob Dole issued the following statement:

"As Chairman of the Bush-Cheney Veterans Coalition, and as a veteran, I call on John Kerry to demand that MoveOn.org take down their ad depicting a defeated American soldier.

It's one thing to debate whether we should take the fight to the terrorists, but depicting an American soldier in effect surrendering in the battle against the terrorists is beyond the pale.

I cannot believe that John Kerry, who reminds us daily of his Vietnam service, would possibly approve the disgusting and demoralizing portrayal of American soldiers fighting for us in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world.

John Kerry has raised doubts about our troops' ability to maintain security as well as Iraqi's ability to decide their own future through elections. He has called the allies in Iraq "window dressing." This is all reminiscent of his appearance before a Senate Committee in 1971 where he suggested with nothing but second hand information American GIs were committing atrocities and war crimes of the worst kind in Vietnam.

This defeatist attitude undermines the great progress and sacrifices of our men and women in the military and the contributions of our allies who are fighting against terror and standing up for freedom around the world.

The politics of pessimism that is being pursued by John Kerry and the extreme liberals demonstrates they are consumed by the past with nothing to offer but attacks on the President's agenda for creating a safer world.

John, say it isn't so and denounce this latest effort to divide Americans"

END

[terrya]

1. Just shut up and take some more Viagra, Bob.

Just shut up and go fuck your wife or something.

[Pachamama]

13. Or Muzzle Libby while he's at it....

Bob you know is in to that....suggested in on MSNBC about Teresa Heinz Kerry (really and truly did)....

[demnan]

2. Why should he listen to Dole?

Who called him dishonorable and a liar?

[silverlib]

4. Yeah,

He lost the right to ask JK anything. Oops - I forgot, Republicans don't care about rights.

[StopTheMorans]

3. Bob Dole is a disgrace to America

f*ck him; with that last stunt he pulled against Kerry (i.e. the "never shed a drop of blood"), he has no right to criticize ANY veteran. at least some soldiers incur wounds from the enemy, not their own stupidity, in order to win their medals (and yes, i know that's over the top, but so is this a*shole).

[Pachamama]

5. You know what this means - time for us all to donate whatever we can to

MoveOn.org to air this ad....Any time something can elicit the response of various Republican Attack Dogs, then you know its got to be good....Considering the response the Swift Boat Liars were able to elicit with their ads, then an ad showing the truth about what is happening to our poor sons and daughters who are basically stuck in a quagmire and are "targets" in a shooting gallery and focuses the attention on the REAL War to be paying attention to, namely the IRAQ War, is an ad we should all support with what we can. I just got on to MoveOn and donated....DUers, even if its $5, just think how good you'll feel even if you had to sacrifice a several cups of Joe from your favorite Brew at the corner coffee shop knowing that its helping someone in a Battleground State see the truth and have a different message than just the same ole lies from the Swift Boat Liars....

[Nickster]

6. Bob

GO CHENEY YOURSELF!:evilgrin:

[liberalmuse]

7. Bob Dole, SHADDUP!

You will be dragged down to hell with the rest of the 'pubs when your time comes. Where were you when Kerry was asking Bush to denounce the Swift Boat Liars? Oh yeah, you were right there adding gasoline to the fire, weren't you? F*cking hypocrite!

And to think I almost used to like the guy--thought he had a sense of humor in spite of his dour image. It looks like he has completed his bargain with the devil and the sale of his soul is no longer pending.

[LynnTheDem]

8. Dear Dole;

Fuck off.

[wurzel]

9. Interesting choice of words "Defeated American Soldier".

I saw this "Moveon" still from this ad on Drudge. The caption then read "US Soldier in Surrender Position". I sent them this email. "What a ludicrous accusation. Never have I seen a soldier "surrendering" with his rifle still in his hand. That soldier is clearly walking thorough a swamp trying to keep his gun dry. I thought you guys had some concern about credibility? That caption is plain stupid." A moment later the caption was changed to "Defeated American Soldier". Exactly the term used by Dole. And it is still there.

[flpoljunkie]

10. If Dole's referring to the MoveOn ad "Quagmire"; it is a bad ad,unhelpful.

I hope MoveOn is not actualy running it anywhere. Watch it and decide for yourself. The words are great, but the image of a soldier sinking into the "quagmire" is not helpful. Use the words and ditch the image, Moveon.

http://www.moveonpac.org

You can email them regarding this ad at: http://www.moveonpac.org/feedback/index.html

[Pachamama]

17. Bad ad is a matter of opinion & depends on your definition - results are

and responses to an ad is what I judge an ad by....if the desired effects are to have people in Battleground States stop and think for a moment about the REAL WAR that they should be concerned about (like IRAQ as opposed to Vietnam) or that they think for a moment about the word "Quagmire" (maybe even wonder what it means if they don't know it already) and think about our sons and daughters (all 1020 and growing) then I'd say even if it had bad graphics and sound and whatever else one might "judge" an ad by, then I'd say if it accomplishes the above mentioned things to counter a really bad ad full of mistruths and misleading (think Swift Boat Liars) then I'd say Moveon's ad is excellent and deserves to have a bunch of viewings and runs for weeks to come....maybe even an award.

[flpoljunkie]

22. Image of soldier sinking in "quagmire" will not go down well with sheeple.

The words are great, but the image is very unhelpful to our cause. Ditch the image and replace with images of Bush.

[Cheswick2.0]

40. It's a great add, they shouldn't change a thing

There is nothing wrong with the image.

[EST]

47. Would you explain your thinking

in greater detail, please? If you want us to come around to your way of thinking, you need a better line than your opinion that the ads are "unhelpful!"

[liveoaktx]

11. Uh... Mr. V... Kerry doesn't RUN Move-on...... so STFU

[LynnTheDem]

12. Proof that Bob Dole is an idiot and a liar.

"The politics of pessimism that is being pursued by John Kerry and the extreme liberals demonstrates they are consumed by the past with nothing to offer but attacks on the President's agenda for creating a safer world."

Does he mean the pessimism of the US State Department?

Or the pessimism of the CIA's latest NIE?

Or the pessimism of the UK's Royal Institute of Foreign Affairs?

Or the pessimism of the rightwing thinktanks?

Or the pessimism of Republican senators such as Luger and Hagel?

[the Kelly Gang]

14. ditto all the above

[xray s]

15. Next stop for Dole...censor all negative news (the truth) about Iraq

The Reich is being threatened by enemies of the state in the press!

[liberal N proud]

16. Every one mis-understands this ad

What I see in the add is that we are sinking in Quick Sand in Iraq.
Not surrendering.
A soldier would hold his gun out of a swamp, or sand or "quick sand" as long as possible to keep it in working order.
Another fine spin by the gop.

[flpoljunkie]

18. I disagree. Words in ad are great! Image of soldier sinking unhelpful!

It does not help our cause, and that is to get John Kerry elected President of the United States and send this usurper back to Crawford to cut brush!

[swag]

19. Dole's hypocrisy and assholism aside, Kerry can't talk to 527s

- asking them to remove an ad would be "coordination" and would be a violation of law.

As the pigs who claimed the same excuse for Bush not condemning the Smearboaters.

[npincus]

20. it's all tactical

to get in the news and twist perception about the ad- yet another attack on John Kerry's patriotism (and the patriotism of anyone who would question Bush's hideous Iraq misadventure).

[flpoljunkie]

24. True, but why serve them up an ad which plays into their sorry hands?

[npincus]

25. we have to stop letting them dictate the debate

our softness and decency have been turned against us- the ad speaks the truth... no matter what we do, they will attack and twist. If we resonate with people watching the ads, that's all we need.

[flpoljunkie]

26. I agree. Ad speaks the truth, but image of soldier very harmful to us.

Replace images with footage of Bush.

[Vincardog]

57. Bush ordered the soldier into QUAGMIRE not surrender just suffer and die

[King Coal]

21. We are losing the war. Why sugar-coat it?

[Hubert Flottz]

23. Take a pill Bob and call us in the morning!

Or better yet, we'll call you!

[corker]

27. Bob Dole says fuck off Bob Dole!!

[zulchzulu]

28. Bob Dole needs to tell Bob Dole to go Cheney himself

Cut back on the viagra too, Bob.

[complain jane]

29. So Dementia is a side effect of Viagra?

Hey, Bob! How about a dose of shut the fuck up!!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

30. "in effect surrendering?"

No Bob. It shows a soldier being sent on the wrong mission without the proper equipment.
Notice also he's a little under supported in terms of man power.
It's a statement on the clueless loser chicken hawk draft dodger who sent him there.

[Hubert Flottz]

31. How can a party, whose head man stands in front of the nation...

and the world and tells the "Enemy" to, "Bring It On" be supporting the troops? Who lied to get the war started in Iraq? I see now, that Bob puts wealth and power above what's best for his country!

[Roland99]

32. From what I've seen of the ad...

the soldier is sinking in something like quicksand (to evoke the *quagmire* theme) and is merely holding his gun up to keep it out of the muck.

[9119495]

33. "Senator Kerry tells Bob Dole to go fuck himself" n/t

[9119495]

34. "Senator Kerry thanks Bob Dole for being ever vigilant in urging

GWB to direct SBVT to remove ad"

[npincus]

35. Good one!

Great idea- turn it around on them and expose Dole's hypocisy in polite terms. I hope the Kerry camp reads DU.

[Catfight]

36. Thank God Bob Dole isn't a democrat, I'd be embarrassed and appalled

to be associated with such scum.

[rndmprsn]

37. bob dole...

shut up!

[Roland99]

38. Hey...Bill O'Reilly is posting on DU. ;-)

[HootieMcBoob]

39. Fuck you ass wipe!

You've lost every ounce of respect. You don't deserve to raise your opinion on this shit you fucking ass wipe hypocrite. Go take some Viagra and watch some Britney spears videos with your dog.
:mad:

[TNOE]

41. Bob Dole is IRRELEVANT

n/t

[Lugnut]

42. Go away Bob

You can't handle the truth.

[bambo53]

43. Bob Dole fucked up his arm masturbating

At least according to his reasoning, if you could get 250 other veterans to say so, it must be true.

Time to come down harsh & hard on these predictable bullies. Slap em and they cry

[zulchzulu]

44. Bob Dole owes Joh Kerry an apology first before ANYTHING happens

Besides not being affiliated with MoveOn, Bob Dole needs to tell Bob Dole that Bob Dole took an unnecessary jab at Kerry.

[Sparkly]

45. I was going to say the same -- After the "never bled" remark

Dole is nuts to ask Kerry for anything.

[robbedvoter]

46. Hey, Bob - Moveon is MINE (and millions of others) and I say:

go climb up W's a*!

[in_cog_ni_to]

48. Kerry had better NOT kowtow

to that old coot! He's already pulled one ad from being intimidated by these assholes. DON'T DO IT JOHN!

[MockSwede]

49. Viagra

We pharmacists always figured all the viagra use in the nursing homes, especially for Boob Dole, was to keep the old men from rolling out of bed at night. Didn't want them to hurt themselves, and in Dole's case, get a purple boo-boo bandage.

[MsTryska]

50. he needs to go somewhere

and pop a boner, instead of talking to the press....

[rocktivity]

51. To quote Zell Miller, "Have you ever heard of a metaphor?"

I see a soldier who's abandoned, ill-equipped, and misdirected sinking into a quagmire of illegal policies and self-serving decisions. He is a "defeated" soldier--except that his enemy is the Bush regime!

And to paraphrase Mr. Dole when called out on his theory that Kerry hadn't bled enough to earn any purple hearts, that's just politics.

:headbang:
rocknation

[qanda]

52. I watched the ad and saw absolutely nothing wrong with it

eom

[David Dunham]

54. It is the best ad of the whole campaign, in my opinion.

[Mr_Spock]

53. Yeah, and the SBV had some valid criticisms - HAHAHA - shut up

You're credibility is shot now you jerk. Did you think we would forget what you said about SBV - NOT!! ...and NEVER! You are now the enemy - too bad, I was just starting to like you.

[Vincardog]

55. Right AFTER * tells the softies to shut up. Combat Lies with the TRUTH

[Clinton Crusader]

56. I wish we lived back in the times when there were duels

Cheney threatening the whole country with 'vote for us or die' is OK though.

Go Cheney yourself, Dole.
:kick:

[arwalden]

58. Somebody Shove A Giant Dildo In His Mouth, Please.