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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:43 AM
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FUCK YOU GALLUP! (They Will Be Used to Cover the Theft of the Election)
The RNC went and bought themselves the most well known of polling organizations and corrupted it thoroughly so that it's essentially used for Rove's bidding.

There's no doubt in mind that Rove knew he needed a big poll to counteract the slew of new polls showing the race tied and to try to make Dems nervous that the attention to Bush's Guard record was backfiring. Orders went to Gallup and voila! A ridiculous poll comes out that bucks every single other poll as well as bucks conventional wisdom.

The guard story is NOT backfiring on the Dems and Bush is NOT pulling away w/ this. This is pure, unadulterated propoganda at it's most vile.

Just remember, Gallup was hired by the US gov't to poll Iraqi's after we invaded. They came up with a poll in which a sizeable majority said they welcomed the US and looked favorably upon us. This was in October of last year I believe.

Here's something I posted around that time to put things in perspective.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Gallup is nothing more than a propoganda arm of the WH and they are being used as cover for the theft of this election and all manner of things.

They will point to the Gallup poll after they rig the voting machines this election and say "See, it's no surprise Bush won in a landslide, just look at the Gallup polls!"

Fuck you again Gallup. Disgusting, filthy, traitorous propoganda being used to aid and abet fascists in killing democracy.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:48 AM
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1. Gallup is the only poll that has showed Bush ahead in every sample.

Scroll down and look at their history:

http://pollingreport.com/wh2004.htm
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:49 AM
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2. Flood CNN, Fox, ....have CBS do a Story on it...and how others use them?
knowing they are corrupt?
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MrMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 10:57 AM
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3. CBS Radio had the Gallup poll as a lead story.
Then the newsreader would mumble something about other polls showing the race as even.

I thought CBS was better than that.
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nodictators Donating Member (977 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:09 AM
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5. The recent CBS poll gave Bush an 8-percentage-point lead
Their numbers were for registered voters, not likely voters.

Gallup has pumped the Bush lead up to double digit percentages by purging many people who favored Kerry as unlikely to vote.

Double-digit leads for Bush may discourage many Dems from voting.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:19 AM
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6. I Can Only Speak For Myself, But Shit Like This Motivates Me Even More
Edited on Fri Sep-17-04 11:19 AM by Beetwasher
I'm far from discouraged. I'm pissed.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:06 AM
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4. Don't sugar coat it...tell us how you really feel.
But seriously...that was the first thing I thought this morning too. Gallup has long been part of the bizarro world, but, sadly, the name does have traction.

An uninformed electorate is their best weapon.

Makes me want to redouble my GOTV efforts locally.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:39 AM
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Gee...who said that first...
"Anger is a gift."

I wonder.

I keep my anger nicely stoked.
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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 12:45 PM
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10. GOTV
Got that right - my wife is going into local office for volunteer meeting this sunday in ME. My daughter and I would be going, except I'm working and she's gotta study after a busy athletic meet weekend.

We've all been helping out regularly.

SO FAR - we have convinced two of our neighbors to not only vote but to get people they know to vote for Kerry. The fellow is working on his mother (A sometime Repuke) and his stepfather in AK; he thinks he's got them. She has talked to all of her foreign language students - 60 to 80 kids - and all are going Kerry. A few of them are so STOKED that they are threatening all the kids that they will personally accompany them to the polls. No one will be left behind. She also offered the example that three of these students have convinced two more kids at university each. I'm working on a friend who doesn't vote in PA to vote this time. He's visiting the first of OCT and my daughter will corner him then, too. I also got two people to attend Edwards rally and am working on them to find two more people each to vote Kerry. I am working on two other people at work to vote Kerry that are currently apolitical or on the fence. Finally, I'm working on a NC friend who's big time DEM to work on people she knows.

So GOTV works. Just have to ask someone where they stand and work regularly on those trending Kerry!

Good luck.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:21 AM
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7. Check out the discrepancies in Minnesota...
http://wcco.com/topstories/local_story_260190642.html

Experts Explain Fickle Polls

Sep 16, 2004 6:03 pm US/Central
Minneapolis (AP) Polls show John Kerry ahead in Minnesota. Wait! No he isn't.

In three independent polls released in a two-day stretch, Kerry first showed a significant lead in Minnesota, then was in a dead heat with President Bush. Are Minnesotans that fickle? Did Kerry threaten to outlaw summer?

Not to worry. The puzzling swings, experts say, can be explained.

Wednesday morning began with a Star Tribune poll that showed Kerry leading Bush by 9 points. That was plausible in a state that hasn't voted for a Republican for president since Richard Nixon in 1972.

But by Thursday morning, two new polls -- one by CNN-USA Today-Gallup, one by the St. Paul Pioneer Press-Minnesota Public Radio -- showed the race too close to call.
-more-

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 11:39 AM
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8. Yup
It's all propoganda and it's sickening...
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Blue_Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-17-04 12:17 PM
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9. yep
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