Kerry's October Surprise????

[Gato Moteado]

did anyone hear the AAR caller yesterday (thanks to a poster below who refreshed my memory, i believe it was on mike malloy's show) who said that she was somehow connected to the kerry campaign? she said that something will be coming out about bush just before election day that will guarantee a win for kerry but she wouldn't give details. she said it was information about chimpy and that it would be such a huge blow to his campaign that kerry will win hands down.

did anyone hear this? if so, does anyone have any idea what she was talking about?

[hlthe2b]

1. No, but I listened to both (but still could have missed it)

I sure hope she wasn't "blowing smoke."

[TheDebbieDee]

34. By sitting on this info about * til the end of October....................

these people are allowing a lot of Advance/Absentee voters to commit to * without all of the facts.


If anybody's got damaging info about * they need to get it out there now so Kerry can grab some of these Advance/Absentee votes.

[Suzi Creamcheese]

2. I hope it isn't the memos on CBS

They seem to be having credibility problems. Maybe Kitty Kelley's book? It is at least getting lots of attention.

[MoonRiver]

8. Well, neither one of those would be surprises in October.

Must be something new.

[Gato Moteado]

14. yeah, she said it would be something totally new....

...something other than what's already out there. also, i paraphrased her in the original post because i don't remember her exact words. it was either on franken's show yesterday or randi's show the day before (i know this because i was unable to tune into randi yesterday but i heard the franken repeat late last night and tuesday i only listened to randi's show).

if i weren't so damn busy i'd listen to the archived shows and try to find the call. i was hoping someone here had heard it too.

i also agree with the posters in this thread that say stuff like "we've been hearing this kind of stuff for a long time and nothing that explosive usually materializes".

[shockingelk]

63. I have an idea: "Bush lied to you"

It would be four-column headlines on the front page of every paper,

KERRY: "BUSH LIED", EXPERTS CONFIRM

NEW YORK - Oct 16 Last night, appearing on the FOXNews network's 'The O'Reilly factor', presidential candidate John Kerry revealed that the Bush administration and President Bush himself had been knowingly untruthful regarding a wide array of issues, including Senator Kerry himself ..."

[KittyWampus]

80. For A Brief, Shining Moment I Actually Envisioned That Headline ShockingEl

:)

[physaf]

99. Probably so.

that's getting a lot of direction pointed at it.

[rocktivity]

3. And don't forget that Bush spooked the spooks

Don't forget that there's still some payback due from the intelligence community for Valarie Plame's outing and for being blamed for Bush's using only the intelligence reports that served his purposes. If the Kerry camp doesn't get him, the CIA certainly will!

:headbang:
rocknation

[the Kelly Gang]

9. I still think the CIA will get this guy

[CrispyQ]

36. Yeah.

Dim son has behaved so badly to so many. I wouldn't want these guys pissed off at me.

[TWiley]

40. Poppy seed was head of the CIA, and he is the only former

president who still gets daily CIA intelligence briefings. Communication is a two way street.

I would imagine that he has most all bases covered from the sidelines. After all, the evil shrub classified most of the documents pertaining to his family history right after the election.

If something big was coming from the CIA this October, then I would guess that not only is he fully informed, but the response has been calculated as well.

[rocktivity]

41. I'm sure the spooks are aware of that

and are taking appropriate evasive action.

:headbang:
rocknation

[TWiley]

78. Now that is a comforting thought.

I will hang on to that idea. I will stock up on popcorn to eat while I watch the show. Just in case.

[Mz Pip]

4. So much stuff

has already come out about Bush, not to mention the entirely crappy and disasterous job he's done for the past 4 years. How many times in the last 3 years have we said on this board that "This is it! This will be the undoing of Bunnypants!" - only to discover that no one else out there in Americaland gives a rat's ass.

I'll believe it when I see it.

MzPip
:dem:

[JuniorPlankton]

5. Thanks MzPip

I couldn't say it better!

[MsTryska]

11. This is true.....

I mean he could have a televised abortion of the baby he and his gay lover wanted to have, using the freakin ten commandments as a surgical pad, and Bush Supporters would still be like..."well we all make mistakes..."

[cheshire]

58. Oh well that was then and he's found Jesus. Hell he is Jesus isn't he. ASS

[Name removed]

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[Union Thug]

24. The truth really does hurt.

This guy has presided over the biggest intelligence failure in our nation's history, has the poorest record on jobs creation since the Depression, backed both takebacks in civil liberties and labor rights, has been unabashedly in the pockets of the rich, refused to act when a CIA agent was outed, etc. etc. etc...

Still, the average 'murkin, one of millions in the herd of indifferent and stupid cows, cares not.

We are condemned to corporate capitalism.. er... fascism.. er..whatever.

[physaf]

101. sometimes i think the Kerry people are just trying to lead us on

in order to keep us from giving up.

[MoonRiver]

6. Interesting. Check out this.

Especially fun for astrology buffs, like myself.

"Someone sent me a link to Starlight News, a site that uses astrology to predict the future of politics. According to this site the Kerry campaign is going to have a good October and will win the election on November 2. No final electoral tally is provided.

The astrologers out there may be interested to note the technical side of their predictions. According to the site...

Transiting Saturn conjunct Inaugural IC; transiting Saturn station conjunct Bush's Saturn triggering the square to Bush's progressed Venus; transiting Saturn station quincunx US Moon; transiting Saturn square Bush/Cheney composite Sun (November); transiting Pluto conjunct Bush's South Node; transiting Pluto sesquiquadrate Bush's Ascendant triggering converse progressed Mars conjunct Bush's Ascendant."


http://race2004.net/

[BlueNomad]

12. Too funny I just saw that on CBS 4;30 am

and mentioned it here...
<http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x815099>

[MoonRiver]

22. Great post!

CBS is the only place I'm getting my news anymore! They even supply astrological analyses!

[tanyev]

15. Do you ever check out the Meeting Room?

Starlight News is done by DU's own Nancy Waterman. I see her name a lot in the astrology threads in the MR.

[MoonRiver]

18. Is that a website?

[2Design]

17. check our meeting room - Nancy post there regularly

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=111x33200

[MoonRiver]

20. Wow! Thanks, I never realized it existed!

:kick:

[molly]

39. Our very own Nancy Waterman has predicted this

[Stuckinthebush]

44. While fun to read

I wouldn't put too much stock in astrological prediction.

That being said, I'd love for the trasiting Saturn conjunct or square of Bush's progressed Venus to have an affect on the race! I don't count on it, but I'd love to see it!

[LunaC]

75. The Bush* "Saturn Return"

For the non-astrologers, Saturn is a planet known for loss, limitation, hardship and difficulty. Every 29 years or so it completes its cycle and ends up where it started and a new cycle begins. In human situations this generally creates a drastic change of events. If you look back, sometime between the ages of 28 - 30 something happened to you to knock you off course and send you in an entirely new direction, drastically changing the status quo and your worldview in the process. Perhaps it was a marriage, the start of a new business, a move to a new city, a new job, an accident or illness...whatever it was, it was BIG (and not necessarily an easy transition. Saturn has a way of knocking you up-side the head if you're not paying attention and it can be kick-ass when it needs to be.)

Now, if you don't get the first Saturn Return right (and we know Shrub's been a royal screw-up all his life), the second one is a real doozy and this is what he'll be up against for the election. AND his upcoming Saturn Return will be in the 12th house of "self-undoing" and "seclusion" while Mars in the 4th (foundation) is square the whole configuration which pretty well seals the deal. Shrub's days of power are numbered (providing that "Tecumseh's Curse" doesn't get him first - ha!)

[physaf]

102. I'm not quite sure what to make of this,

but I guess it sounds like a positive development.

[Catfight]

7. Maybe that Rove and Cheney outed Valerie Plame? That's treason! nt

[mrboba1]

10. If the Kerry people had informationon treason,

they wouldn't be holding onto it for political purposes. That would just look REALLY bad...

[Catfight]

16. hum....interesting point, but it's about that time that they release the

information on it. I don't know, I'm sure there's plenty of ugly dirt with this administration. There are probably things we just don't want to know.

[CrispyQ]

13. I don't know, but

I wouldn't be surprised if JK has a few tricks up his sleeve. He didn't get the reputation of being a closer for nothing. He said in Time mag that he's been in tougher places.

I think this election is going to bring people out in droves. People who haven't voted in years, & lots of people who have never voted. I hope the youth vote will be huge.

I hope he has a food taster.

on edit: I predict a win in spite of Diebold. I'd like to see some corporate crooks go down too.

[physaf]

103. there is probably going to be real high turnout

given the way things have been going.

[2Design]

19. this is why rethugs are pusing absentee ballots....They want them

in before people can change their minds and become sane and vote for Kerry

[Gato Moteado]

23. good point!

i didn't think about that...i think you're 100% correct.

[Myrina]

21. They tried this with the last minute DUI in 2000 ...

not sure if it had any effect because, well ... Gore won anyway.

:evilgrin:

[movonne]

26. I heard smithing like that on Mike Malloy...It was a lady and said

don't worry that we have a surprise and all will be well. I guess we all hang on something big to happen that will get rid of this cancer on this country.

[Gato Moteado]

31. maybe that's where i heard it!

i did listen to malloy last night to....for the first time since he's been on AAR. i think that is where i heard it. sorry for my air-headedness....i had food poisoning yesterday and i was groggy all day.

[crickets]

73. Her name was Patricia

I remember because I commented on it in the Malloy thread last night. She sounded beside herself, almost gleeful in her certainty that a big surprise was coming and Kerry would not lose. I didn't know quite what to make of her call.

Food poisoning? Ouch! Hope you're feeling better.

[Kid_A]

29. After the DUI thing in 2000, I thought for certain Bush was toast.

I still remember watching Karen Hughes standing on a runway talking to reporters about Bush's DUI and I remember thinking "This is it! Bush is fucked!" It may worked, but not well enough.

Whatever Kerry's people have up their sleeve this time had better make the DUI thing look like a parking ticket. Like a picture of a blood-soaked Bush leaving a hotel room holding a hatchet and dripping trash bag.

[physaf]

104. you know, there is the real problem now that with

the cbs thing, people may not want to hear any more about this kind of stuff. it is very likely to backfire.

[gauguin57]

42. Actually, I read that the DUI thing actually helped Bush, because

people were disgusted with the negative campaigning -- and that 11th-hour revelation was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[Carni]

25. Kerry discovered Iran/Contra and BCCI

His campaign doesn't even need "opposition research" because Kerry is probably intimately familiar with what W did in the 70's.

I think bush was trafficking (and not just snorting) cocaine...
but that is JMO after years of reading everything I can get my hands on regarding bush's "youthful indiscretions"

Time will tell! (hopefully!)

[Gato Moteado]

27. from your mouth....

to god's ear (or godess's ear).

let's hope it's something that juicy!

[Kazak]

28. Court documents...

on a coke conviction would be my guess.

:shrug:

[Gato Moteado]

35. that would be sweet!

nt

[Myrina]

37. I'm rusty ... can a convicted felon be President ?

And if not, what happens to everything he's done for the past 4 years ... is it all immediately nullified (IhopeIhopeIhopeIhope) ?

Thanks ~

[Texas_Dem]

49. If only the past four years never happened!

[coalition_unwilling]

38. A written and signed direct order authorizing torture??

Altho I don't see how that would sway the 50% pro-torture camp.

[Kid_A]

30. triple post

[Kid_A]

32. triple post

[Kid_A]

33. What if it's those photos of a drunken Bush dancing naked in a bar?

I remember reading someplace that Bush's people in 2000 thought those photos existed and they were TERRIFIED that they'd come out.

Is Kerry confident enough that people won't vote for a drunken naked bar dancer?

[TriMetFan]

47. Thats sick.

Man I want to throw up just thinking of Bush naked, plus dancing. SICK I tell you Sick.:puke:

[Zen Democrat]

43. Maybe he'll have one of his seizures during the debate.

That would just about do it.

[TriMetFan]

45. Yes it was on The Mike Malloy show.

She called about 1.5 hour into the show last night.

[Gato Moteado]

46. yeah, sorry about my original post.....

.....like i said, i was groggy all day yesterday. hearing that woke me up tho.

[Clinton Crusader]

48. What could be SO BAD and a SLAM DUNK?

Ive been racking my brain trying to come up with something. The one thing I keep coming back to is Plame. But as someone pointed out, the Kerry camp holding this back would not look good at all.

ANYTHING with the Guard may cause alot of people to roll their eyes, unless it's definitive proof of a coke arrest, but then again, there was the DUI in 2000 and he only lost by 500,000.

What could be so frickin BAD that it's a slam dunk for KE? Gay?? Of course in and of itself, is nothing, but after all his fricking chest beating, bible thumping and trying to add amendments, and total disregard/hatred/discrimination against gays, WOULD be something. Repukes would hate his guts, he'd lose the Christian right...

hmmmm.
:kick:

[coalition_unwilling]

79. Maybe indispuatable evidence BushCo ordered 9/11???

There's been a lot of background noise about this, but I can't think of what would constitute indisputable evidence.

[physaf]

105. such evidence would really sink him

and all the rest of the R's anywhere on the ticket.

[lunarboy13]

50. Bush-Rice love affair?

We've always joked about it...maybe they got "caught" and didn't know about it?

[IronLionZion]

89. The Republican base would never stand for that

[NoBorders]

51. Not something I would rely on

there've been too many 'something big is coming!' moments that have led nowhere...

[maine_raptor]

52. What may be "coming out" could be as simple as

just how unqualified the man is via his own words: IE, the debates.

Maybe the "Surprise" is a "plan" to make Bush look so bad, loose his temper maybe, that folks watching will see the skin come off and the "real" GWB standing "V"-like before them.

[Clinton Crusader]

56. LMAO! we JUST said this the other night!

I swear to God! We're watching something on TV and we said they're like the things in "V", peel their skin off and they're all freakin LIZARDS! LMFAO! HAHAHAHAHAHA!

I think Edwards could push Pork Roast to lose his shit during a debate, I really do.
:kick:

[maine_raptor]

61. Not too hard I hope,

'Cause if robo-heart keels over in the middle of the show, that's bad JuJu....symp vote and all, plus His Shrubness gets to annoin...er, appoint a new "heartbeat-away", can you say "Bill Frisk"?

[Clinton Crusader]

66. nah..not CROAK

not 'lose his shit' like croak. lose his shit, as in, act like an asshole, pound his fist, yell, threaten Edwards, while JE stands there with the choir boy smile.
:kick:

[maine_raptor]

72. Yea, but if at the end of it

he's pronounced "unfit for health reasons"????????

Can you see it now...Darth Chaney works himself into a spittle sprawling rage, his face as purple as his robe, and keels over, passed out. From offstage, on camera now, rushes a crash cart and team of medics, all the while the PA shouts "Code Blue, Code Blue".



Ahh what great TV that debate would be.

[ClassWarrior]

60. Ooooooh... GWB* as Diana...

Hey whatever happened to the remake of "V" that was supposed to be made?

[maine_raptor]

65. Budget Cuts and the Saucers were needed in Afghanistan LOL n/t

[Clinton Crusader]

67. didnt know they were making one...

remakes usually arent as good as originals, it came out on DVD....mental note- gotta get that one...

Laura or Babs as Diana....
:kick:

[maine_raptor]

69. Oh, Babs for sure........

Wow, just thought of something......"flying Saucers" showed up, when late 1940's, right, now, GWB was born when? what if......

Hmmm maybe after Kerry rips the plastic skin off we'll finally get to the bottom of Roswell!!!!!!

[Clinton Crusader]

74. THAT'S IT

GWB was born when? what if......

Hmmm maybe after Kerry rips the plastic skin off we'll finally get to the bottom of Roswell

During the debate Kerry rips his face off and reveals he's a V thing..who landed at Roswell
:kick:

[maine_raptor]

76. And to counter

Bush hauls Osama by his beard with Rummy is kickin' his ass from out behind a curtian and to really seal the deal, has Karl roll out some gurneys with some of them dead real-aliens on'em.

Could either way for that samll undecided pro-UFO lobby :shrug:

[Clinton Crusader]

77. only glitch in the "V" theory

is the voice thing. Has anyone ever heard * speak with the "V voice"?
:kick:

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Imo, Kerry will win hands down regardless.

That's how confident I am.

[Tsiyu]

54. Fatfinger post n/t

[Tsiyu]

55. Some of us have sensed a bombshell coming

which would explain Kerry's smart-like-a-fox stance. The info needs to be thoroughly vetted, if there are photos, memos, etc. And releasing the info close to the election leaves less time for spin. Already the Repukes are calling for congressional investigations ( cuz we have money to burn!) on CBS, even thought the * campaign was caught red-handed violating campaign law with its connection to the Swiftboat Maggots for Chimpy.

The evil Nazi minions - just like the Orcs - don't let reason stand in the way of propaganda. A late hour revelation is smart given that history...

And please remember- there wasn't a 911 or an Iraq war or a terrifying deficit to consider in 2000. 2000 and 2004 are ENTIRELY DIFFERENT elections!!!

* can be pushed over much easier this go-round.

[terrya]

57. But if we talk about it, it won't be a surprise.

[Tsiyu]

62. It's like law enforcement calling a press conference

to announce that there will be an arrest any minute in connection with a heinous crime. It puts the real criminal on edge. And we need to keep the turd in the White House on edge from now until we boot his lazy, good-for-nothing ass out in November.

[Oddman]

59. Did the bush family have past dealings with bin Laden?

[ItsMyParty]

64. Satan--it better be about Satan....................or Christ..............

If it doesn't pertain to any of those two, it just ain't gonna do the trick. Maybe Jesus is going to make the encore appearance and announce: You know that son of a bitch (Babs, that is), who keeps running around telling you he's my Pa's second son?--well, he isn't. He's ROSEMARY's BABY!!!!

[knowbody0]

71. kerry's surprise

my guestimation the iraqi people are extending hands to him to end the WRONG occupation of their country. check out al jazerah editorials.

[blm]

68. NOONE from the Kerry camp would say that. It's a Rove planted call

to make the Kerry camp look bad when Bush shit does hit the fan.

Not unexpected.

[bobbyboucher]

70. Wouldn't be at all surprised, they are pulling out all the stops.

Just take a look at all the trolling going on around here, for instance.

[gardenista]

95. Ding Ding Ding Ding Ding! We have a winner! nt

[physaf]

106. man, jusst when i was getting a bit up about all this

you have to go mention Rove. Why did you have to do that?

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[enigmatic]

84. Is this the latest Freeper email?

Nice.

[Chichiri]

86. Freeper alert. (n/t)

[IronLionZion]

90. WOW!!!

:crazy:

[GimmeDANEger]

83. I hope

colin powell resigns exactly one day before the election saying "I cannot lie for them anymore".

[RevCheesehead]

88. Either Colin Powell or John McCain join Kerry

[IronLionZion]

92. and Ridge, and McCain and any other Republicans with a conscience

Whoring for the evil regime must be putting a mountain of guilt on their shoulders.

[partygirl]

85. OK we must

have something--something BIG. It can't be AWOL cause usually we save the surprise for around 5 days before the election (so that they don't have time to really combat it).

Maybe someone who did cocaine with Bush? Or bought dope from LAura?

[Doohickie]

96. They bought from Laura

But it wasn't dope... if you know what I mean.

[Chichiri]

87. Let's make no attempt to find out what it is

Difficult, I know, because inquiring minds want to know. But the freepers are watching us (yes, I see you, you America-hating people), and an October Surprise will be more effective if it's more surprising. Let's instead put all our efforts into finding out what Bush*'s October Surprise(s) is/are.

[UNIXcock]

91. As others have duly noted

If there's real dirt, and it's damaging to *, it should come out early as possible.

[IronLionZion]

93. now would be a dandy time

since early voting starts next month

[bitchkitty]

94. Maybe it's that old rumor

about bunnypants crashing a jet while under the influence?

[bagnana]

97. maybe Kerry will catch Osama Bin Ladin!

[gordianot]

98. Lotsa dirt out there

Some people in a five sided building are damn mad for good reason.

[EthanAllenVt]

100. Is it better than the DUI story?

That one was worth about 3 points and made it as close as it was.