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Alleycat Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:53 PM
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What records did John Kerry not release?
My boss who is an undecided has stated that John Kerry refuses to sign a (I-9)???? I don't think that is the correct form # but that is what he said not me. He also stated that Bush release his but Kerry won't sign to have his released. According to what I have heard and read I think Kerry has released everything except medical records.

Can anyone provide any facts on this?

Thanks
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cheshire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:54 PM
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1. The Navy has some that they will not release.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:55 PM
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3. THAT SHOW HE WENT TO CAMBODIA
it must feel great not to care when you lie.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:06 PM
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13. Kerry has also refused to release all his medical files
and the howler monkeys are all over it. Of course, neither has Chicken George, nor has any other candidate, nor would anyone over the age of 35 with any sort of medical history at all.

They're desperate.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:55 PM
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2. John Kerry's records are online at
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 01:56 PM by shraby
<http://www.johnkerry.com>

I think the link is in the upper right hand corner.


The number is 180 and Bush didn't sign one either.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:42 PM
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:56 PM
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4. Your boss is not undecided..he's a moran.
It's simply ridiculous to think that anyone would hang themself up on a niggly little detail. Balderdash!
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Alleycat Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:58 PM
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6. Yea
Isn't it sad he is my boss!!!
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:57 PM
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5. if Bush has released all of his records
why are they still trickling out?

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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 01:58 PM
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7. The I-9 is a Form 180
And it's an absurd allegation, because the damned Swift Boat Liars for Rove have already made sure that everything has been aired out already. It's more desperation for talking points that made them come up with this one.
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:00 PM
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8. ask him if anyone has seen *'s "honorable discharge."
apparently that's missing, too.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:06 PM
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14. No DD 214 either.
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 02:07 PM by Sentinel Chicken
That's the doc you need for a VA loan and should be readily available.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:01 PM
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9. Ask your boss why AP had to sue and a judge had to ORDER more records
released if Bush signed a 180 like he thinks.

Bush did NOT sign a 180 and Kerry released ALL the Navy records allowed because he did ferry some CIA operatives into Cambodia and the Pentagon will NEVER allow those records to be seen.

Kerry's private medical records were shown to the press covering the story for a limited amount of time.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:45 PM
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:57 PM
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24. No, Bush did NOT sign a release.
And the ONLY records that the NAVY kept back from Kerry's file were the trips he ferried CIA operatives into Cambodia.

Check out the Daily Show transcript with Christie Todd Whitman where she accidently slipped and said her husband knew Kerry from when he spent time on a boat with Kerry in Cambodia.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:01 PM
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10. Why should Kerry release his private medical records?
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 02:02 PM by zulchzulu
Let Bush release his first...especially the one's where he took the physical...whoops...he didn't take th physical in 1972.

Ask your boss to demand that Bush release his medical physical records that HE NEVER SHOWED UP FOR because he was DOING COKE while deserting his National Guard obligation in 1972.

I'm sure your boss thinks that's okey-dokey.
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IIgnoreNobody Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:02 PM
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11. Freepers keep raising this phony issue
that Kerry hasn't signed a 'Form 180'. Of course, Bush hasn't signed a 'Form 180' either, according to White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan:

At the White House, press secretary Scott McClellan said he couldn't say specifically whether Mr. Bush signed Standard Form 180, but the president did request and release his own military records in February.
"I don't believe he signed any form, but he did authorize making his military records available publicly," Mr. McClellan said. "We have released all the records, and reporters were allowed to look at his medical records as well."


http://www.washingtontimes.com/functions/print.php?StoryID=20040818-121345-3874r
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Alleycat Donating Member (992 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:13 PM
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17. Thanks
I found that info as well.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:03 PM
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12. That form is for his private medical records.
Edited on Wed Sep-22-04 02:04 PM by w4rma
Bush has dragged his feet on every tiny detail over his own records.
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LTR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:08 PM
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15. Freepers want to see his private journals
Funny, I didn't realize those were government property.

:eyes:
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ET Awful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:13 PM
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16. Hehehehe an I-9 is a document to certify you're eligible to work
in the US :).

I'm sure Kerry has signed one on more than one occasion :).

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booklearninboy Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:15 PM
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18. I was googling this topic not too long ago...
...fact-checking some stuff in a Nat Hentoff piece. (BTW, is Hentoff really all the way over on the Dark Side?) It's a little confusing. The outraged wingers are screeching, "Senator Kerry, sign your Form 180! The president has!" even though the White House now says Bush hasn't. As to what's not released, I can't find out (no duh). Hentoff cited a Washington Post article claiming that something like 90 pages hadn't been released. Then I read that somebody else claimed that 31 pages, not 90-something, hadn't been released. Maybe it's the medical stuff that Kerry's doctor reviewed and summarized.

I was trying to find a squelcher for the "sign the form!" squawk, but I haven't yet. I don't think Kerry's hiding anything, and I don't think he should have to release irrelevant crap that the wingers are going to try to twist into attacks against him. Although they've shown they can pretty much take anything and turn it into smears.
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readmylips Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:18 PM
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19. It's about an Attack on Teresa...her files not released...
But her files have been released but the repigs are demanding all her company files. Only the CEO and board of directors of Heinz, can approve company files. Repigs know that but they want to dirty the waters for Kerry. The company has nothing to do with Teresa's political views. That's just the republicans trying to get at Teresa. They actually should be pressing Halliburton, that's the company that made cheney super rich. That bastard war profiteer.
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:33 PM
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21. Hell, it isn't even her company...
From Snopes:

First off, Teresa Heinz Kerry does not "own the Heinz Corporation" — she has no involvement whatsoever with the management or operations of the H.J. Heinz Company, nor does she own anything close to a controlling interest of the company's stock. According to Heinz itself, the Heinz family trust which Mrs. Kerry inherited sold most of its shares of Heinz stock back in 1995 and currently holds less than a 4% interest in the company:

Neither Mrs. Heinz Kerry nor Senator Kerry nor any of the Heinz trusts or endowments — either individually or collectively — holds a significant percentage of shares of the H.J. Heinz Company. In 1995 the Heinz Endowments and family trusts sold a large percentage of Heinz shares in a secondary share offering to diversify their holdings. As a result, their current holdings are under 4 percent.

There is no connection between any philanthropic programs of the H.J. Heinz Company and its Foundation and the Heinz family interests (including the Howard Heinz Endowment, the Vira Heinz Endowment, and the Heinz Family Philanthropies).
(A 4% stake in a company as large as Heinz still represents a considerable amount of money, but it isn't nearly large enough a share to give the holder any significant control or influence over the company's business decisions.)

http://www.snopes.com/politics/kerry/heinz.asp
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-22-04 02:31 PM
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20. "Yellow Submarine" & "The White Album"
Otherwise, everything that's pertinent.
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