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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:00 AM
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Deja Vu all over again? Supreme Ct to install Bush again?
Consider today's electoral-vote.com map: http://www.electoral-vote.com/

It has Bush with a bigger lead in Wisconsin -- 14 points -- than in Mississippi -- 9 points. WTF?

It also shows Kerry closer in Arizona than in NM. WTF?

But there is this interesting piece on how Colorado could force the election to be decided by the Supreme Court again (God forbid!)

Consider Colorado. A small and relatively unknown polling firm, Ciruli, has announced that Bush is ahead in Colorado by an implausible 55% to 39%, a 14% lead. There have been six polls since Aug 16 in Colorado, every single one of them had the race either exactly tied or one of the candidates was ahead by 1%. Even the Republican polling firm Public Opinion Strategies had Bush only 1% ahead as recently as Sept 13. Assuming the folks at Ciruli just made up some numbers, and Bush is ahead by 1%, everything depends on the Colorado referendum to split the electoral vote proportionally to the popular vote.

Fortunately, a poll has just come out on the referendum and currently it looks like it might just pass. If Bush is 1% ahead in Colorado, he would get 5 votes in the electoral college and Kerry would get 4, changing the score to Kerry 269, Bush 269. If West Virginia Bush elector Richie Robb votes for a Republican other than Bush, as he has threatened, then the score becomes Kerry 269, Bush 268. In both cases the election is decided by the new House with each state getting one vote. In all scenarios, the Republicans will control the majority of delegations in the new House, so the House will elect Bush. Depending on who controls the Senate, Cheney or Edwards becomes vice president. Could go either way. If the Democrats hang onto the Louisiana Senate seat, as they have for over 100 years. there is a good chance the Senate will be split 50-50. In that case, Cheney gets to cast the deciding vote.

But wait, suppose Kerry picks up 1% in Colorado and he gets 5 of Colorado's votes in the electoral college and Bush gets 4. Then the score becomes Kerry 270, Bush 268 and Kerry becomes president. Unless the Republicans go to the Supreme Court and ask the Court to invalidate the Colorado referendum. If the court upholds the referendum, Kerry wins; if the court invalidates it, Bush wins. Thus if the vote on election day reflects today's map except Kerry wins Maryland easily and squeaks through in Colorado, the Supreme Court gets to decide another election. It could happen.



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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:27 AM
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1. But Scalia is sick and tired of the Sct deciding political matters.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 08:55 AM
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2. Uh huh
And I've got some swampland in South Dakota for sale too.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:46 AM
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5. Well, I wish that I were making it up...but that's what the man says
See:
http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2004/sep/04092107.html


Does the man show credibility and integrity when it comes to actually participating in decisions that are purely political?

You can keep the swamplands...we both know the answer to that.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:39 AM
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3. I just don't think O'Connor would do it again.

She wanted to retire this term, but was so embarrassed
about the partisan impact of Bush v Gore that she has
waited out the four years.

She's the vote the criminal conservatives need.
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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 09:46 AM
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4. This little nugget is on CNN's ticker..
A small and relatively unknown polling firm, Ciruli, has announced that Bush is ahead in Colorado by an implausible 55% to 39%, a 14% lead.

Except it JUST says (paraphrasing)
A new poll says that * has 14% lead in CO.

I think we should start facing the facts that unless Kerry's lead is in double digits and CANNOT be lied about, ALL media are going to report meaningless, tiny, never heard of polls, like 'the people waiting for their morning coffee in the shop on the corner and wearing red shirts say * is way ahead in (insert state here)"

They neglect to mention that these polls are taken by small, unknown places, they just report the end result ONLY if * is leading.

I saw 2 reported on MSRNC's ticker I had NEVER heard of, both reporting * ahead nationally. I never ever see Zogby or Harris reported on any news channel.

This uphill battle seems to be growing in size every day. The media is 110% against Kerry and will do ANYTHING to project that he's a loser, aloof, not connecting, disorganized, blah blah blah. And shithead is a supreme being.

The only way out I can see now is a mind boggling turnout, but who knows?

-People on line, polling places close their doors and say 'sorry no room at the inn, you cant vote"
-millions kicked off the voting rolls, but not finding out until it's too late to do anything about it.
-the touch screen voting (results held in a Palm Pilot) and therefore erased.

Im just in one shitty mood today, raging against the machine of the media which is fixing this election right before our eyes.
:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
:kick:
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