Greg Palast on Liberal Oasis: Election is set to be stolen again

[Larkspur]

http://www.liberaloasis.com/palast3.htm

On the real reason why we're in Iraq
LO: Another person you speak to on the DVD is Grover Norquist, about his role in Iraq.

GP: Yeah, I mean, why are we in Baghdad?

You know, I was able to get inside documents. And, by the way, I have some more and will be reporting this for Harper's...

...but we have documents that we received from inside the US State Department, which indicate that the Bush Administration was in fact -- and we spoke to insiders -- that they've been dividing up the oil fields in Iraq from the first weeks of the Administration.

Not only the oil, but the assets of Iraq, and re-writing the laws of Iraq.

The idea was kind of a corporate takeover -- an armed corporate takeover of Iraq is what we have.

We have a situation which we have rewritten their pollution laws, we've rewritten their banking laws, we've seized the state assets and are selling them off to US and other corporations, corporate cronies...

...everyone is looking at Halliburton Bush is shoplifting everything in that nation that isn't bolted down, and then some.

And that's a very dangerous thing.

Because it means that our guys, our kids, are facing bullets in Fallujah for some wacky program which was literally devised by corporate lobbyists.

And I bring out the guy I call the capo di capi of corporate lobbyists in America, Grover Norquist, who said: Yeah, I worked on devising these plans.

LO: So he was candid with you?

GP: Oh yeah, he was proud. He was glad someone came to him so he could claim credit…
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On how the election will be stolen
LO: You also revisit what happened in Florida in the 2000 election. What's your sense of how things will go this time around?

GP: ...They're stealing it again. One of things that was crucial in the film which still hasn't come out in the US media here, which I think is going to determine this year's election, is the loss of the black vote.

What I mean by that is, in the United States of America, two million votes are cast which are never counted.

We call it "spoilage" in the vote biz. Technical reasons why votes are voided...ballot's blank, has extra marks, hanging chads.

One million of those votes are cast by African-Americans.

What I show in the film is how that is done.

In Florida, 180,000 votes were not counted. 54 percent of those votes were cast in majority black precincts in Florida.

And that's how they took that election...

...And it's done with bad machines. Just like you give the black communities...bad schools and they get bad hospitals. They get the crap voting machines. It's deliberate.

Because they don't want those votes to count...

...Let me tell you something else to look for in this election.

The number of absentee ballots is increasing by 500%.

There's going to be something like 15 million absentee ballots in America.

It's going to be wholesale theft...

LO: What can they do with absentee ballots that they can't do with regular ballots?

GP: One, throw them away.

You get a receipt when you register to vote, but not when you actually vote by absentee ballot.

They won't send you a note saying we've accepted your ballot, it's rare...

...And in Florida they make it easy because they put Democrat and Republican on the outside of the envelope.

Theresa LaPore on the Aug. 31st primary, two weeks ago, counted 37,000 votes from absentee ballots. There were only 31,000 ballots cast in Palm Beach.

31,000 absentee ballots, 37,000 votes. That's a taste of what's coming...

And by the way, LiberalOasis first: Election's going to be stolen in New Mexico and Colorado.
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[asjr]

1. I'm going back to bed and pull the covers over my head.

[demnan]

2. Greg Palast is the best at what he does!

n/t

[cthrumatrix]

23. I'm sure Meet The Press will have a "one e-vote special" soon.....

[Soopercali]

3. You left out the most important thing....

Greg Palast:

"One thing I recommend people do is don't vote absentee for God sakes. That's just really taking a chance with your vote.

The safest vote you can cast would be an early vote.

Go right into your elections supervisor's office and cast a vote right there, because if there's any challenge to your vote you'll have a chance to correct it."

LO: "And you can do that in all 50 states?"

GP: "Yes, under federal law now, within two weeks of the election...go in and vote early and often!"

[phish420]

35. Yes, Very Important...n/t

[City Lights]

4. This is very scary.

Can anyone explain how they throw away absentee ballots? This really concerns me because I just requested one. I was under the impression that I have two choices for submitting this ballot - mail it in, or take it to my polling place on election day. If I mail it in, I was under the impression that it is stored unopened until election day. Once the polls close, it will be opened with members of both parties present so my Kerry vote can't just be tossed in the trash. Also, if absentee ballots are thrown away, why is the GOP and the chimp encouraging so many people to vote this way? Is Palast suggesting that absentee ballots are only thrown away in certain states, or certain precincts? Also, who is doing the throwing away, since I would think that heavily Democratic precincts have Democrats in charge?

Edit >> In reading this again, I see that in FL envelopes are marked with party registration. I hope they don't do that in AZ.

[milkyway]

5. Thanks for the link! It's interesting to find out that Edwards, and even

Kerry, are getting info from Palast. It's good to know that a great journalist like Palast is not relegated to the fringe. I would love to see Edwards campaign every day in Florida making the disenfranchisement of black voters his number one issue. There's no doubt that more voters in Florida will support Kerry on election day, it's just a matter if the margin is large enough to prevent the bush cabal from stealing it again.

[realFedUp]

6. While information like this is good

Scaring people from voting altogether is not.

[cthrumatrix]

7. wonder why he's not on: GE, FOX, ABC etc..... and our politicians know it

[mhr]

8. Revolution Here We Come

I cannot imagine that every democrat is willing to take a repeat of 2000 again.

On the bright side, with the national guard so heavily deployed, there are fewer Bush controlled henchmen to quell civil unrest.

Time to stock up on protective riot gear folks

[cthrumatrix]

9. it's coming...we have been warned for 4 damn years

[blm]

10. Thanks to all those trolls who promote the idea that Bush and Kerry are

not much different.

They do it to promote the idea that the left doesn't want Kerry and will vote for Nader instead or just stay home.

Those who promote that idea are helping Bush steal the election by keeping it closer than it should be.

[Larkspur]

19. You're on the wrong topic blm. This thread is about how the Repukes

are actively plotting on stealing the election AGAIN, regardless if Leftwingers vote for Nader or Kerry. What Palast is saying is that 1) people are still being disenfranchised. It has been ongoing and expanding since 2000 and the Dem Party hasn't done much to oppose it, and 2) for those not being erased off the voter lists, their ballots might not count or be counted anyway.

[blm]

22. They will STEAL it easier if they can plant the idea there's no enthusiasm

for Kerry and that Nader is really polling at 5%.

That shouldn't be too hard to figure out.

[Larkspur]

29. Got news for you, here in Northeast CT there is no enthusiasm

for Kerry, Nader, or Bush, and Independents I meet are seriously thinking about not voting.

[blm]

30. You've been saying so for two years now. That's NOT news.

It's what YOU and the media WANT people to believe.

[Larkspur]

33. Not even the Kerry supporters on my Dem Town Committee are

enthusiastic about Kerry. They have done dip for Kerry in my corner of CT.

When I ran Dean Meetups, I worked my butt off and used my own money to buy buttons, bumper stickers, and lawn signs for people to take or reemburse me for them. None of the Kerry supporters on my Dem Town Committee have even bought a pack of buttons to hand out, but they are whining about the Kerry campaign not giving them bumperstickers, etc..

[phish420]

36. Who is doing this? What are you talking about??...nt

[RevCheesehead]

11. So can we ask the UN to observe our elections?

ESPECIALLY in Florida?

[RevCheesehead]

12. And why on earth is it necessary to note Party affilliation on the ballot?

It seems to me that that would be a fundamental right to privacy being violated. Is the ACLU aware of this? Is it legal?????

[DoYouEverWonder]

15. Watch what? Everything looks great on the outside

It's what happens inside the machines and behind closed doors that's the problem.

[PROGRESSIVE1]

32. I hope we have some observers too.

[rndmprsn]

13. Greg Palast tells it like it is...and its damn scary

we've all known and have had 4 years to prepare...so has shrub, he has had for 4 years, the power of the fed govt and several state govts...corp worship, complicit corp media that is giving out flawed poll #'s as fact...one-third of all voting machines are electronic.

you do the math.

we need to start raising our voices about this now.

[cthrumatrix]

14. Kerry needs to come out and call a spade a spade....we have a problem

it's called e-voting

[LSK]

39. Actually, I think Dean would be better to call attention to it

Just like he did with the terror warnings.

[DoYouEverWonder]

16. This is reality and we better get ready

Understand that on election night, unless it's a landslide for Kerry, we will not know who won the election.

Team Bush is gearing up right now for another fiasco, that will make 2000 look like an honest election.

But this time is different, because we are going to fight back. Which plays right into their hands too. Either way we're screwed and it's too late to stop it.

Not unless Kerry has some aces up his sleeve that we don't know about. Let's hope so. It's our only chance.

[cthrumatrix]

17. the ONLY way is to demand paper and pen ...count for a week

with video camera's

[rndmprsn]

18. I live in MD

and will join any march on DC to protest a stolen election...i'm sure many, many others feel the same way.

[AspenRose]

28. GELAC contributions to Kerry/Edwards goes towards legal

expenses. So it sounds like they are trying to financially prepare for legal battles.

https://contribute.johnkerry.com/index_landing.html

[GOPBasher]

20. I wish the mainstream media would cover this.

:mad:

[cthrumatrix]

21. it's past wishing.....it's almost a damn revolution!

[AspenRose]

24. I believe it

New Mexico's controversy du jour is requiring photo id at voting polls...."to keep the illegals from voting...." so yeah, they're primed to do it again.

On edit: Didn't Bill Moyers have a NOW special on this recently?

[juajen]

37. Excuse me, but every time we vote in Louisiana, we have to have

a picture ID. I don't understand what's unusual about this. Doesn't every state do it?

[Cha]

25. Of course it is! So what are we going

to do about it?!

I know Michael Moore is going to be in Florida with his trusty cameras and John Kerry is going to have a battalion of legal minds at the ready..

[Joanne98]

26. New Mexico has a DEM govenor for christs sakes........

What the Hell is the matter with the dems?

[cthrumatrix]

31. kick

[Gregorian]

27. Executive order 13303. Iraq has been SOLD, to the meanest bidder.

It just needs to be reiterated. I'm not sure it pertains to this, but it came to mind when I saw this post.

Unless licensed or otherwise authorized pursuant to this order, any attachment, judgment, decree, lien, execution, garnishment, or other judicial process is prohibited, and shall be deemed null and void, with respect to the following: (a) the Development Fund for Iraq, and (b) all Iraqi petroleum and petroleum products, and interests therein, and proceeds, obligations, or any financial instruments of any nature whatsoever arising from or related to the sale or marketing thereof, and interests therein, in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest, that are in the United States, that hereafter come within the United States, or that are or hereafter come within the possession or control of United States persons.

This link was from a quick Google search. Gives a short translation.

http://www.lyingmediabastards.com/archives/000884.html

[procopia]

34. How are they able to get away with all this?

Are there that many people with no conscience, or no guts to call them on anything?

[LibertyorDeath]

38. We need a tidal wave Dem voters it's the only way we can

defeat these criminals.