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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:13 PM
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Poll question: How big will Bush*'s bounce be after the debates?
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 12:15 PM by LoZoccolo
I think a lot of us are very nervous about our prospects during the debates next week. I think we should be realistic in setting our expectations, even if we don't like what could happen. I'm curious to know just how much we think we'll be behind after the debates. The outlook is grim; let's steel ourselves now and we'll be less panicked and more sober when the boom is lowered on us. Take a deep breath and be realistic; this is a serious poll.
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Mistress Quickly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:15 PM
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1. 21-25%
because you didn't have a gazillion % as a choice, he'll be ahead by a gazillion percent because he is such a great debater, and will whip Kerry easily.


(did I do that right?)
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:15 PM
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3. Perfect. Bush is the ideal debater in every respect.
n/m
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Katha Donating Member (287 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:17 PM
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4. He's fantastic at debating!
Kerry's going to look like a schoolboy next to Shrub's outstanding debate skills.

(You did just fine. :))
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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:09 PM
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46. HUH?
Fantastic at DEBATE? NO way. Maybe? good a rhetoric/speech delivery - IF he reads while he speaks.

He cannot even answer reporters questions without a stammer or a gaff, let alone rebuff/retort/redirect in a DEBATE.

Who's smoking what, here?
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:37 PM
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39. * could not over the podium and fall across the Moderators table
and the TV Media would say that it was a stunning gold metal victory.
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jumpstart33 Donating Member (328 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:51 PM
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43. My money says there will be no debates. Rove will come up with a huge
alert to keep this from happening.
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demwing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:01 PM
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44. Bush could debate the entire Dem Party at once!
He's a mass debater!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:03 PM
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45. And what's worse, they might challenge us to that! n/t
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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:11 PM
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48. IF Mass = Pile of ****
Fantastic at DEBATE? NO way. Maybe? good a rhetoric/speech delivery - IF he reads while he speaks.

He cannot even answer reporters questions without a stammer or a gaff, let alone rebuff/retort/redirect in a DEBATE.

Who's smoking what, here?

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MockSwede Donating Member (579 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:13 PM
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49. Light Dawns over Marblehead
Sorry, I'm slow on the uptake. I got it. But I'm not going to join in the circle-*&^% of mass-debaters.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:15 PM
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2. I'm terrified
With Bush's skill as a speaker, thinker and debater, we're really in trouble on Sept 30. I don't think I can even watch. Complete Kerry meltdown.
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irancontra Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:17 PM
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5. you forgot the bounce that is
equal to the ((distance to crawford/6weeks)*stupidity)/2

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:18 PM
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6. This is not helpful. If we think that bush will get a bounce after
the debates, we might as well fold our tents and go home right now.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:20 PM
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8. I am afraid people might have anxiety attacks...
...if they see the sudden shock that Bush* will wipe the floor with Kerry. That's too much to take in at once, and we should ease into it.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:21 PM
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9. Read between the lines and edit your post.
Don't worry - we'll let you. :hi:
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:22 PM
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10. I am not sure how Kerry
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 12:22 PM by George W. Dunce
can even fathom challenging him in the debate arena. As we have seen just today President Bush's oratory skills, keen wit, and the ability to think fast on his feet are unsurpassed. I am dreading next Thursdays debate.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:25 PM
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17. What are you talking about???
It's not like superior intellect is Kerry's strength over Bush. Yes, Kerry is a brilliant guy, but a brain like Bush's hasn't been seen since Da Vinci.
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Ishoutandscream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:19 PM
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7. It will be a 75% bounce. Bush has never lost a debate!!
He is the master debater. Kerry should concede TODAY!
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:22 PM
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11. How can there be a bounce when he's already got 100% support?
I mean, everyone loves Bush, no?
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:22 PM
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12. Where is the 100% choice?
Nobody will like Kerry after seeing the superlative skills and verbal judo wielded by the master.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:23 PM
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13. Aha!
So, you DUers have finally come around and acknowledge my keen intelletuance, at last.

Yeppers, Ah've always been something of a sleeper in the oraltorical department, but I'm hoping my performance will wake up a whole lot o' folks to the true reality of just what sort o' hands the nation is in.

Poor John Kerry...I've been practicing delivering my "fuzzy math" rebutterance all summer...
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George W. Dunce Donating Member (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:24 PM
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14. You're mis spelling our last name
Heck even I don't get that one wrong <SMIRK>
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:33 PM
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23. Oh, yeah...
...well, you misspelled our middle initial. It's just "W". Y'all put periods at the end of big ol' sentences, not li'l letters all by themselves.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:31 PM
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22. Hi George!
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 12:33 PM by LoZoccolo


Kudos for planning to send an astronaut to Mars!
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:37 PM
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27. I am???
HOT DAMN!!!! That is soooo cool--maybe he'll bring back some fancyfangled rayguns or a lizardman or sumthin'!
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:24 PM
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15. Kerry will forfeit after the first debate
and handover his sword to KKKarl.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:25 PM
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16. Why are people so worried about the debates?
I don't get it, Kerry is going to kick ass.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:26 PM
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18. Bush* is way better than any politician at debating!
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 12:26 PM by LoZoccolo
:scared:
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:31 PM
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21. Bullshit
Kerry is going to 'win', I guarantee you there won't be any REAL bush bounce after the debates.

by real, I mean, don't look to Gallup for your polling
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:35 PM
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25. Hey man, don't be mean.
:cry:

I'm just trying to deal with what's going to be a difficult time for all of us.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:28 PM
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20. Kerry might kick ass...
...but against an intellectual giant such as Bush, it won't be enough. Did you see the Bush/Allawi press conference today? The sublime poetry of Bush's light-speed intellect?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:35 PM
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24. Heh, shades of "The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes"
Kurt Russell, Disney flick late 60's.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:27 PM
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19. The bounce will be so big that even Massachusetts will be competitive.
I'm worried. :scared:
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:44 PM
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40. Damn, that's a great pic of Kerry in your sig line!
But the beautiful leonine mane of hair won't save him. His meager debating skills will be no match for the great swaggering one. Kerry is toast. ;)
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:36 PM
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26. you mean the media bounce or the real bounce?
There is a HUGE difference.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:37 PM
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28. The real bounce.
But after 20%, does it even matter?
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:39 PM
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29. I believe this is another
"build Bush expectations" thread

as high as possible. ;)
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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:39 PM
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30. Why did Kerry even agree to debate?
Stupid, stupid, stupid. He must be really desperate.
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Dees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 12:41 PM
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31. If you took a basketball to the top of the Sears building
and let it drop it would not even come close to the bounce Bu$h will get. I wish Kerry would just forfeit. Nobody beats StinkNuts in a debate. NOBODY!!
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obnoxiousdrunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:06 PM
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32. Kerry will be so miserable
after the debates that he might turn into a "Suicider".
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:07 PM
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33. Bush's BOUNCE?
He's going to get SMEARED in the debates. Down 10% after the debates.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:16 PM
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35. Read between the lines, big guy
Then edit your post.

:)
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:25 PM
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53. I've heard enough whining on DU to...
wonder if this poll was serious or no...
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archineas Donating Member (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:14 PM
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34. insane
i'm completely certain the bush bounce will be fantastic and surreal, unlike anything ever seen before. in fact, i predict that rush limbaugh will insist that bush hit a home run on every point, and thus, it will be so.

there's no way kerry can compete with bush. he actually uses those outdated "sentences", and words with more than 2 syllables? how can anyone follow any of that?

j

(favorite bumper sticker thus far: "John Kerry-Bringing complete sentences back to the white house!")
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:19 PM
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36. **Checks the calendar to confirm it's not April Fools day...**
....So if Rosh Hashanah is Jewish New Year, does that mean this is some sort of Jewish April Fools Day I wasn't aware of?

Bush a skilled debater?? I've heard rumors that he can't even master-debate without Pickles' help.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:30 PM
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38. and Pickles WON'T help

I do not find this thread funny though.

Not At all.
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deckerd Donating Member (319 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:28 PM
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37. Let's not get all sarcastic, people.
The reality is that Kerry has a very real chance of losing all three debates. He is boring and long winded, like Al Gore -- from what I can tell, he's especially uncomfortable in town hall settings. Bush has never lost a debate. It's not a joke, people.

What we need to start alerting the media that our hopes are pinned on the Edwards/Cheney debate. That should be the meme for next week. Get that out there so the media focuses more on the VP debate and less on the potential train wreck that lies in front of us.

E-mail alert your friends and neighbors about this people:

Our hopes are truly pinned on the VP debate. If Kerry comes out ahead in more than one of the Bush debates, it will be a truly special performance, and proof that Kerry has it when it counts.

In fact we should just start calling them the Bush debates because that is what they might turn out to be if Kerry doesn't bring his A game and then some.

I want to make sure Mark Shields says this on air:

"Dems are worried, Jim. If they can't win the Bush debates, thnen this
could all come down to the vice presidential debate." Because it's the
truth. Send this off to Mark Shields.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:46 PM
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41. You're right!
I certainly hope we can get people to pay attention to the debate between Dick and Sen. Edwards! It will help up offset out losses we suffer from Sen. Kerry's long-winded, boring responses. I think we might be able to make up 2% of the vote lost during the Kerry debate if--and only if--Sen. Edwards has that mole removed and erases his history as a trial lawyer who is the 4th most liberal member of the Senate before the debates begin. Otherwise, Dick will harp on how Sen. Edwards made it hard for OB/GYNs to give love to women.
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 01:51 PM
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42. 100% !!
Bush will rise like a god!

Opps, I forget he IS god!
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nagbacalan Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:11 PM
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47. Just have to hope Bush is not his usual spellbinder-self on the evenings
of the debates. Someone please forward the Kerry campaign Clift Notes for "My Pet Goat."
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Zuni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:15 PM
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50. I think it is quite obvious
that Kerry will continue to implode through the debates, especially when confronted by W's Mensa-level skills at debate and logic.
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Rockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:15 PM
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51. Bounce? Can you say tidal wave?
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 02:15 PM
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52. Has this place been run over by the repugs?
With this post and Kerrys Cold is a fake and all the other shit you people are belching out. WTF!
If you are that sure Kerry is going to loose, Either get off your butts and do something about or go soak your head!
Damn
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