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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:24 PM
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Most boneheaded segment of Bush's remarks?
Here's a candidate:


Q Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. President, the past couple of days you have been talking about the consequences of the mixed
messages you say John Kerry sends. I want to ask you, sir, do you mean immediate consequences, not just if the senator is elected, do you mean that the messages being sent now have a negative effect on the effort in Iraq, and does making the war in Iraq a part of the campaign also have consequences on the situation there, sir?

PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I think -- look, in a campaign, it's -- you know, the war of Iraq's going to be a part of the campaign. It's a -- this is a major moment in American history. These are historic times. And I view it as a great opportunity to help secure our country.

As I said before, Iraq is a central part of the war on terror, and I believe it's important for us to succeed there because of that.

See, 9/11 changed everything. September the 11th meant that we had to deal with a person like Saddam Hussein. Of course, I was hoping it could be done diplomatically, but diplomacy failed. And so the last resort of a president is to use force, and we did. And now we're -- we're helping the Iraqis.

The prime minister said something very interesting a while ago, and it's important for the American people to understand. Our strategy is to help the Iraqis help themselves. It's important that we train Iraqi troops. There are nearly 100,000 troops trained. The Afghan (sic) National Army is a part of the army. By the way, it was the Afghan (sic) National Army that went into Najaf and did the work there. There's a regular army being trained, there are border guards being trained, there are police being trained. That's a key part of our mission.

But, Wendell, I think the world watches America. We're an influential nation and everybody watches what we say. And I think it's very important for the American president to mean what he says. That's why I understand that the enemy could misread what I say; that's why I try to be as clearly as I can. I don't want them to be emboldened by any confusion or doubt. I don't want them to think that well, maybe all they got to do is attack and we'll shirk our duty. See, they've been emboldened before; they have caused certain nations to withdraw from coalitions as a result of their action, such action reinforcing the ability for suiciders, for example, to affect free societies. I know that; I've seen first-hand the tactics of these killers. And so therefore, I think it's very important for all of us involved in the process not to send mixed signals.

I don't know what the enemy thinks today, but I do know they're watching America very carefully. I do know they want to affect other nations by their acts of murder.

I do know they were emboldened when Spain withdrew from Iraq as the result of attacks on election, and therefore I have a duty to our troops for starters, most importantly, not to send a mixed signal. I want our troops to know that the sacrifices they are making are worthwhile and necessary for the security of this country.

And I want -- don't want the Iraqis to fear that, oh, all of a sudden there will be a change of heart, that there will be tough times politically, or that, you know, a poll might say something and therefore cause me to change my opinion. I don't want them to think that because they have to make the hard choices for freedom. They have to go from a society that has been tortured and -- by a brutal thug to a society in which they take responsibility for their daily lives.

I don't want the coalition forces to feel like we're wavering.

And so I understand that people watch our words, and that's an explanation of why I say what I say.

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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:25 PM
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1. That's clearly to me
Oh my God, he is such an idiot. Harvard and Yale must be proud.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:34 PM
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5. Let's all try to be as clearly as we can....
There's also the spot where pResident Alky proudly AGREES he's being disingenuous....

But I think it's hard to top meeting with the puppet ruler of Iraq, then standing beside the puppet ruler of Iraq, in a press conference discussing the situation in Iraq, being asked a question about Iraq, and calling the Iraqi army the Afghan army.

Twice.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:29 PM
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2. He sounds like a
dumb daddy. He wants everyone to be able to depend on him. God, where is the gagging smilie?

Oh and by the way Bush*, if they are all listening to what we say then wouldn't it be a good idea to have a president who actually knows what he is saying?
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:34 PM
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4. Essentially he's saying: I'm not budging or I'll be seen as wavering
and I don't care how wrong or how stupid a jam I'm getting us into. It's much more important to be seen as unwavering than to be seen as able to read reality accurately.

But of course he's too much of an imbecile to say anything an eighty-eighth as intelligent.
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:42 PM
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12. That is it
100% and I have never known anyone who would put up with that kind of dumb ass behavior from their boss or their spouse or even from a friend so why are we(not us) putting up with this from him? I don't believe anything I am seeing anymore, I simply cannot believe that anyone would put up with this shit and vote for this belligerent, ignorant ass.

Sorry, I am having a very bad Bush* day today.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:49 PM
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16. It's this kind of bottom-of-the-barrel stupidity that makes me say
if the American people are dumb enough to allow this jerk another four years, then they deserve every second of the toruture another four years of Bush will wreak.

And then I have to remind myself that it's not just Americans who will have to pay if Bush gets in again. (And it's not just the dead-brains who can tolerate Bush's idiocy.)
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:58 PM
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17. That is correct.
It is all of us and the rest of the world. If we don't kill them all with bombs we will make damned certain they do not do well. Everyone concerned about the environment and working hard to keep it as healthy as possible will be working for naught. The world will become dark in both vision and hope. These are just a few of the things that will happen, just what comes to mind at this particular moment. We could all get together and paint the picture but I doubt any of us could really take it. I once would have said that same thing about how we deserve it, I said it with Reagan but I can't say that this time. Nobody really ever deserves Bush* and his plans for the world.
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theorist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:32 PM
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3. It's unbelievable how he goes from his idiot press conference mode...
to eloquent debate mode. He'll look so presidential when he's up there debating Kerry.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:38 PM
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9. An aide once asked Eisenhower how he would respond
to a particularly tough question that might be thrown at him in that day's press conference, and he responded, "I'll just say something to confuse them." Ike did it on purpose-what's Smirk's excuse?
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Kierkegaard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:36 PM
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6. I mean, there are so MANY.
I'm like a kid in a candystore...

"...Iraq is a central part of the war on terror..."
Reality check: it's the current BIGGEST RECRUITMENT of NEW TERRORISTS

"...September the 11th meant that we had to deal with a person like Saddam Hussein..."
Reality check: especially since he DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH IT.

"...the last resort of a president is to use force..."
Reality check: unless it is the TOP PRIORITY, as it was in this case.

"It's important that we train Iraqi troops."
Reality check: only 5,000 of the claimed 210,000 have been trained so far. What the hell have you been doing?

"I think it's very important for all of us involved in the process not to send mixed signals."
Reality check: you've been playing 3 card monte with every one of your miserable policies and talking out of both sides of your mouth since you were the governor of Texas. Get real.

"I have a duty to our troops for starters, most importantly, not to send a mixed signal."
Reality check: like sending them to war and 'forgetting' to provide them with the proper training and equipment? How's that for a mixed signal?

*sign* what a miserable, lying son-of-a-bitch...



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HFishbine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:36 PM
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7. Paging Jon Stewart
BUSH: "It's important that we train Iraqi troops. There are nearly 100,000 troops trained. The Afghan National Army is a part of the army. By the way, it was the Afghan National Army that went into Najaf and did the work there."

<cut to Jon for reaction>

BUSH: "We're an influential nation and everybody watches what we say. And I think it's very important for the American president to mean what he says."
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:41 PM
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11. I think it's even MORE important
for a president to KNOW what he's saying!
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:37 PM
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8. This is the only person in the world
that the journalists have to invent new punctuation marks in order to make sense of most of his statements. I mean who talks in sentences that you need a double hyphen in? Besides bush*.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:39 PM
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10. Also, I don't remember another president's transcript where (chuckles)
Edited on Thu Sep-23-04 03:39 PM by BurtWorm
is inserted after he makes a joke. I could have a faulty memory, but I think Chuckles Bush is the first "president" to be so honored.
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fdr_hst_fan Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:43 PM
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13. Fifty years from now,
historians will read those transcripts and say, "What the fuck...?"
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MuseRider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:44 PM
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15. Chuckles Bush*
*snarf* very funny
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 03:43 PM
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14. i don't think he answered the question
he didn't mention Kerry at all. not once.

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slojim240 Donating Member (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-23-04 04:21 PM
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18. The "Afghan army went into Najaf?" WTF is he talking about?
If Kerry or when he was running, Gore, had made this statement the media would be playing it on every station night and day!!! How can the American media sleep at night knowing that they are a part of the destruction of America with their Bush but kissing selves?
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