OK I am woried about this.

[ncteechur]

All the news sources have reported the past couple of days that the liar from Crawford is stealing the women's vote. What is the lowdown on this. I know Kerry holds a lead among women, but is the lying bastard really closing that gap? If so, why??

[unblock]

1. think this story might have originated from the gop faxes? just maybe?

[Carla in Ca]

23. This is why Karen Hughes was called back.

She has been quietly moving around the country just for this purpose. But do not fear. John Edwards is on to it. That is why he had a women's issues rally today.

[flpoljunkie]

46. Anne Lewis of Women's Vote Center says Kerry has 10 point lead over Dubya

in the women's vote. Leave it to the media to look for negatives with the Kerry campaign now Dubya's bounce is gone and the race is in a dead heat.

[gauguin57]

2. They jus' LUUUV that bulge in his flight suit.

Seriously, I cannot fathom why a woman would vote for this misogynistic administration. I just cannot understand it at all. Oh ... that's right ... the "safety moms'' -- those who feel only Bush can keep them and their families safe from the terrorists.

BY ATTACKING A COUNTRY WHERE THE TERRORISTS WEREN'T!!!!

Ladies ... wake UP!

[mairceridwen]

6. ew!!!

don't you ever mention the bluge again ;)

{{{{{{{{shudder}}}}}}}}

[mairceridwen]

3. probably not that much

I mean...could they ask ALL the women?

who is saying this, where is the news getting this info.

sounds like more RW media bs...not that we shouldn't be concerned, but also keep a clear head...ya know?

[kestrel91316]

4. Obviously there are a heck of a lot of women who.....................

don't know the full implications of the term "pro-life", who don't remember the bad old days of rampant death in women due to illegal abortion. They have no clue what it was like when we were barred from the professions because of our two X chromosomes, when we had NO CHOICES, when all our choices were made for us by MEN IN POWER. We have lost our collective memory, and we pay dearly for it.

[DemMother]

5. One of the polls showed it; since then a few others have shown Kerry with

at least a ten-point lead among women. I wish I could remember which was the most recent to show that.

[auntAgonist]

8. EVERY woman that I talk to .. (and that's a LOT )

is voting KERRY!!!!!!!!

[Renew Deal]

16. What's up playa?

You should share. :)

[qWagmire]

11. W stands for women

I found this claim on the un-elected monkey's own sight. How pathetic.

[RevCheesehead]

15. Not for this woman!

I get a lot of positive feedback when I wear this pin:

[a kennedy]

39. Saw that "W stands for women" sticker on an Envoy

in my office parking lot!!! I know the woman who has it on her SUV!! Repub to the core. I hate that sticker.

[newyawker99]

49. Hi qWagmire!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Hello_Kitty]

28. I believe that poll

There's no way the Chimp is doing that well with women. Women are a lot more politically savvy than the media gives us credit for being.

[still_one]

7. Think about this

They are saying that "Kerry is losing the women vote because woman need to feel protected"

Does that statement sound a little sexist to you?

The majority of people in the country are for Roe V Wade
The majority of people in the country are for stem cell research
The majority of mothers in this country do not want their sons in Iraq

The news services are also saying bush is ahead by 10 plus points

They do not include the undecided people or the people between 18 and 34

This election will fool everyone, and it will not be as close as they want you to believe when Kerry wins

There will be a lot of red faces on November third when Kerry wins!

[secular_warrior]

18. It's sexist -- but true

Sadly many women -especially moderate married suburban women- help to perpetuate the stereotype. They are the ones all of Bush's macho posturing is directed at, no doubt the result of Rove's poll research. These are the type of women who grew up liberal, became empowered and strong, got married, and now use liberalism for evil by emasculating men who aren't macho enough.

I even saw the NBC reporter Andrea Mitchell talking on Hardball about how 'women need to feel like the president will protect them' and she proceeded to fold her arms, making a hugging gesture. Of course Laura Ingrahm agreed.

What these supposedly socially liberal suburban women fail to realize is if the presidency is about having a strong leader, and a strong leader means a retro, over-the-top idealized masculinity that even a Democratic male candidate would never want to imitate, how do they expect a woman to ever be president ?

[deckerd]

27. Soccer moms aka security moms = DLC

"Socially Liberal" Republican Women in the suburbs who are in the top 20% income bracket and conservative on every issue other than abortion and entitlements (for their family, not the other guy).

These are the people the DLC says you must bring into the party to replace all the working class voters who got scared off because of abortion and gun control.

[secular_warrior]

32. Bingo - "DLC Moms"

The suburban professionals the DLC has courted by remaking the Democratic Party into a toothless, spineless, corporate friendly shell of a party -- a party that supposed to be about fighting for the working poor and the socially opressed. If the Democratic Party won't stand up for the underdog, who will ?

[PittLib]

9. No woman with a shred of self respect,

a modicum of heart and a brain cell in her head would vote for *. The whole notion leaves me feeling sick and betrayed.

[Anaxamander]

48. Me too :(

It just seems... impossible.

[Mr_Spock]

10. I think there just isn't enough information to be worried about

Plus, it's all the votes that count. Anyway, they are putting Edwards out there to specifically court the female vote. He's cute and he says the right things too, he'll be able to change a few thousand minds.

[secular_warrior]

12. "Security Moms"

Basically, socially liberal suburban women who BushCo has managed to sufficiently terrify.

I wouldn't worry about it too much, though. Kerry has historical done very well with women voters. If there is any group he connects best with it is exactly the "security mom" demographic -- middle aged moms who want "tough" but also want "wise". After all, with the 9-11 Widows (the "Jersey Girls") on your side how do you go wrong with women concerned about security ?

[Killarney]

44. Yes. I heard about this on TV last night.

Either CNN or MSNBC, I forget, but they talked about "security Moms" who are voting for Bush because they're terrified.

[AntiFascist]

47. They should be much more terrified by....

an administration that's losing touch with reality.

[Warren DeMontague]

13. It's the "Bush is keeping us safe" meme...

Particularly considering that there's been one major terror attack in this country, and it happened on Dubya's watch. Brilliant.

Maybe the widespread reluctance of our party to talk choice and reproductive freedom isn't helping, however.

[GainesT1958]

17. If Dub loses...

Ten to one, this picture will be pretty much what he'll look like showing up at the Bush family Thanksgiving table at Kennebunkport this year!:7

B-)

[a kennedy]

40. It's 5:00am and I just woke my husband because

I was laughing so loud at this picture and the thought of dubya at the Thanksgiving dinner. LOL :-) What a great way to start a Friday. Thanks.

[GainesT1958]

14. Right now, in Zogby's latest...

Kerry has the same lead among women that Dub has among men...just can't see Dub closing that gap; after all, it sure doesn't LOOK very "compassionate" when more of our troops--somebody's son, husband, boyfriend; daughter, girlfriend or wife--are being killed every day, and journalists are being beheaded. And, to boot, Dub acts as though none of it is happening. Schizophrenia with grandiose delusions is NOT very "sexy", the last time I looked!:eyes:

B-)

[Hello_Kitty]

30. Damn right!

There's nothing sexy about Bush/Cheney paranoia. Kerry and Edwards are smart, and there's nothing 'sexier' than that!

[darknesstolight]

19. He isn't getting enough press

Its hard to get press when the Republican Doberman Foxx news slam Kerry every minute. Kerry can't buy the election thats the problem. Where is Al Gore with Dem TV. Just a hint Foxx news stock is up when the market is no where near what it was in the Clinton era. Lots of people are pulling out of the market now fearing a new terrorist attack. Media stock is up when others are down. Look how much loot they make they need to put c-span on regular TV and inform the public to get the information there. What you have now is talk shows and there is no legal definition of a media talk show. A talk show that creates stories and then conducts polls to effect public opinions. These talk shows are real biased and highly illegall. These are a few incidents , Heraldo giving away troop locations, media riding along in the Iraq war broadcasting prisoners of wars face, crossfires Novak outing a CIA agent. All this on the Bush watch it was his idea to increase media ownership, in case you didn't hear the Dean scream started when they were voting on that it slipped you right by. Since then buba the love sponge, wardrobe malfunction etc.etc. Tony Powell and his Buddy's have a role and a stake in it his son is Michael Powell FCC chairman. Thats why Kerry is doing bad his message can't get out and is highly twisted.

[AuntPatsy]

20. So not true, the only ones who seem interested in this guy is

of the stepford religious zealout menalities....thank God I have yet to hear even one women defend this sorry excuse for a leader of our country, men yes, women no....

[ParanoidPat]

21. "All the news sources"???

Umm, could you provide even one link? You know, just for fun. :evilgrin:

I did a Google News search for "George Bush", woman and it doesn't look good for Bush*.

[DemMother]

22. Read this...disputes the security mom story

Donkey Rising is always a good place to check when you read stories like this.

"About That Vanishing Gender Gap" (from Donkey Rising)--analyzes the numbers

http://emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/donkeyrising/index.php

and this:

"Re: The Security Mom Myth"

http://www.greenbergresearch.com/publications/reports/r_security_mom_myth092304.pdf

Just a couple of excerpts (which are also on Donkey Rising)

"...Since 9/11, Bush has garnered strong ratings on security from everybody...It is important to note, however, that men give Bush stronger ratings on all matters of security than women: they prefer Bush on the war on terrorism to Kerry by 26 points while women only prefer Bush by 9 points; they prefer Bush on foreign policy by 9 points, while women are evenly divided between the candidates; and they prefer Bush on being respected in the world by 10 points while women prefer Kerry by 13 points.

Women are more skeptical, moreover, about the situation in Iraq than men and women (55 percent) are more likely than men (47 percent) to say that the war in Iraq has made us less secure."

[Elwood P Dowd]

24. My sisters are voting for Bush

He is protecting us from terrorism. He is a moral, Christian man who loves and protects us. They won't listen to their 86-year-old mother or their 57-year-old brother. We have turned into evil, America-hating, terrorists-loving, demagogues who should be locked up for life. We should listen to Limbaugh and watch Fox News to learn the truth.

My nieces are even worse. Bush is only killing the Iraqi terrorists who attacked us on 9-11. The women in Iraq and Afghanistan are now free, and they are spreading joy, love, and Christianity all across the Middle East thanks to George Bush. Bush ranks only behind God and Jesus. They go to church and pray for a Bush victory over the evil Kerry. I kid you not! My sisters and their children have turned into a bunch of brainwashed fundies in just four years. Every single woman I know that goes to church is like that today. They are more delusional than the men for some reason. They even think Bush is cute and smart.

[Erika]

26. Ask Them Why Bush Doesn't Follow The Golden Rule

Tell them to report back to you when they can answer why Bush chose to give our kids lives to invade a country that was never a threat to us. Let them know you mean it.

[Elwood P Dowd]

29. I've tried everything

They're hopeless. :( :( :( :( :(

[dorktv]

35. Even the "I am your brother, I love you very much.

Why would I lie to you? That would not be showing love, you do not lie to your family because it hurts them. I love you, and so I would lie to you..."

[Hello_Kitty]

31. You hit it on the head, though

They're getting it from their churches. You should accompany them to services sometime to see what is being spread there, if you can stand it.

[Elwood P Dowd]

33. I can't handle Southern Baptists

They married into this crap. My parents were moderate Methodists. These girls have turned into something totally foreign to me and my mother. The brainwashing techniques would make Hitler proud.

[mahina]

36. Think reconciliation....

I'm so sorry your family has been pulled apart by the *. All across the nation we are going to need to heal from the harm he has done. Good luck getting across this divide. Unite! :)
Like probably everybody else here we've lost some old and dear friends over this kind of issue. My uncle is a foxhead now. They really have been brainwashed, there is no talking to them. I think the right wing media is responsible.
Remember, as some poster said here the other day, the media stood trial at Nuremberg too...good luck!

[EST]

38. "W" stands for "whistledick."

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[Lexingtonian]

25. Oh, don't buy into it

It's like all the rest of the polling going W's way- very little of it is taking place in the critical swing states or states Gore won, where there is substantial public skepticism and Democratic media presence.

W's running up the margins in his safe states, where the Right Wing media has little effective opposition and Democrats are mostly the literally conservative-to-moderate people trying to keep the reactionaries from running totally amok.

So it's navel gazing among the Right. Never forget that a moderate Republican is defined by nostalgia/living in the past on the one hand and a lack of moral courage on the other.

[Teaser]

34. Not happening.

Check the ARG poll
http://www.americanresearchgroup.com

[Iceburg]

37. One to many polls from Stepford Texas ..more lies

[Karenina]

41. Naaaaaa......

They wouldn't LIE, would they??? :freak:

[liberal N proud]

42. It is another Rupuk lie, Tell it as many times as it take to make people

believe. How many time have they done this. It has worked in portraying Kerry as a Flip-Flopper, and smearing his Vietnam record.
They did it to McCain and Cleleand and others.

[Francine Frensky]

43. This is very, very true. It is my whole neighborhood!!

These moms listen to talk radio during the day and they are voting for bush because he will keep them safe.

Check out Stockholm syndrom; when a person is kidnapped and then treated to periodic episodes of fear from outside sources, followed by the kidnapper keeping them safe (nothing happens), people begin believing that the kidnapper is saving them, and they actually join their team. It happened to Elizabeth Smart and others.

These women have been kidnapped by the bush admin. and scared into thinking he is keeping them safe.

[npincus]

45. No mention of Abortion and Supreme Court appointments in this election

its like the Vietnam era controversies have sucked all the oxygen out of OUR agenda- the Swift Boat Liars and our AWOL counter-strike have dominated the debate... this doesn't hurt Bush as much because his policies and postitions are unpopular with the public, but WE haven't gotten our message out whish IS popular with the general public and we have been extroadinarily disadvantaged. That is why Bush is doing so well- the absence of focus on the host of other issues we do better on: pro-choice, education, stem cell research, economy & jobs (I know Kerry has been trying to get focus on this).

I am not blaming anyone- the Republicans have run brilliantly albeit without ethics, decency, morals or fairness. But i have to believe , and really do, that we WILL get our message out, at least in the debates, and Americans will see the light.

Regarding women, if the DRAFT issue takes hold, that will soften them up.