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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:32 AM
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CBS Memo Cased Solved. Evidence of FOWL PLAY
This was posted at democratic underground as well that people are missing

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to when Rove was chairman of the College Republicans. Lee Atwater joined Stone's consulting firm in 1984. Gee what a coincidence?



Career: In the years of the Watergage scandal, Rove's career as a big-time political handler began with a motley crew of friends and associates. He was chairman of the College Republicans when George Herbert Walker Bush was chairman of the state Republican Party in 1973. He won the presidency of the College Republicans in a race against Terry Dolan. The late Lee Atwater, who later became famous as the political attack dog for the Reagan-Bush team, managed Rove's campaign. Dolan went on to become a Soft Money pioneer by helping form the National Conservative Political Action Committee, then died of AIDS in 1986 at age 36. Dolan's advisers in his loss to Rove were Charlie Black, Paul Manafort and Roger Stone. Those three were later instrumental in the success of Ronald Reagan's 1984 campaign.

Atwater joined the consulting firm of Black, Manafort and Stone after the '84 election. The firm later worked for the 1988 Bush-Quayle campaign. Two of Nixon's dirty tricksters also worked for Bush-Quayle: Frederick Malek, Bush's Republican National Committee rep, who had compiled lists of Jews in the Bureau of Labor Statistics as part of Nixon's investigation of a "Jewish Cabal;" and Dwight Chapin, who was jailed for lying to a grand jury about hiring Donald Sigretti to disrupt the 1972 Democratic primary campaign of Senator Edward Muskie. Chapin worked under Manafort in 1988. The firm's other clients included drug-connected Bahamian Prime Minister Oscar Pindling, Philippine dictator Ferdinand Marcos, and UNITA, the South African-supported Angolan rebel group led by CIA asset Jonas Savimbi. Lee Atwater lobbied for UNITA. All of which began when Atwater was introduced to George Bush in 1973, by his good friend Karl Rove.

http://www.famoustexans.com/karlrove.htm


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This is something I've been looking for -- a concise history of the rise of the New Right and the role of all those shadowy figures like Richard Mellon Scaife, who was behind the attempt to destroy Clinton and seems linked to all the dirty-tricksters in the current campaign.

http://www.audarya-fellowship.com/showflat/cat/WorldNew...

The term 'New Right' was coined by Kevin Phillips in 1975 and refers to the amalgam of organisations and institutes spawned by Richard A. Viguerie, Paul Weyrich, Howard Phillips and John Terry Dolan with heavy funding from such financial magnates as Joseph Coors, Nelson Bunker Hunt and Richard Mellon Scaife. ... In 1973 Coors, with the help and advice of Paul Weyrich, a broadcast journalist by profession and not the mere 'political mechanic' he pretended to be, and Edwin Feulner, another Congressional aide, founded the Heritage Foundation.

<snip>

Perhaps the most important constituent body of the New Right network after the Heritage Foundation is the National Conservative Political Action Committee (NCPAC), also founded in 1975 by John Terry Dolan, a lawyer by profession, Charles Black and Roger Stone with the help of Richard Viguerie.

<snip>

Ronald Reagan's election as President of the US marked an important historic divide in the rise and development of the New Right and its religious component. Once inside the White House, the President, contrary to envisaged plans for its abolition, decided to retain the post of special religious advisor. In the face of firm opposition from the mainline denominations, he appointed Morton C. Blackwell, founder of the ultra-conservative Committee for Responsible Youth Politics and ex-editor of the RAVCO-owned New Right Report still with strong political and financial ties to Viguerie, to the post.

"Ain't nobody here but us chickens."

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Googling the National Conservative Political Action Committee, of which Stone was a co-founder in 1975, leads directly to L. Brent Bozell, who was at some point NCPAC's president and chairman of the board.

Bozell, of course, has been deeply implicated in this whole memoes flap. It was his Cybercast News Service that was instrumental in moving the forgery claim from the blogs to mainstream news sources.

For a summary on Bozell, see http://www.cephasministry.com/church_and_state_cornweb_...
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http://www.democrats.org/news/200408310013.html

Blackwell Trained Karl Rove. Morton Blackwell, a former national executive director of the College Republicans, trained a teen-aged Karl Rove as a field organizer, and taught him "people in politics should pay less attention to consultants, television advertising, polls, and 'message,' and more attention to the old-fashioned side of the business: registering voters, organizing volunteers, making face-to-face contact during the last days of a campaign, and getting people to the polls on Election Day."

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Rove Consults With Blackwell on Political Strategy. At the 2000 convention, Bush strategist Karl Rove consulted with Morton Blackwell of Virginia, who supported a plan that emphasized primaries in small states when the Republican Party selects its presidential nominee.

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Blackwell "Trained More Political Activists Than Any Other Conservative." According to the biography on the leadership Institute website, Blackwell "has probably trained more political activists than any other conservative. Starting in the 1960's, he has trained thousands of people who have served on staff for Republican candidates in every state." <http://www.leadershipinstitute.org/01ABOUTUS/02MCBlackw... >
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As always, LaRouche material should not be taken as reliable unless it checks out elsewhere, since they often make wild charges without offering documentation. And the gratuitous anti-gay and anti-Semitic comments in this piece are particularly unsavory. That said, the connections indicated here would be of interest if they prove true:

http://www.larouchepub.com/other/2004/3108sharpton.html

Roy Cohn, Mafia mouthpiece, murder conspirator for the ultra-right, and Sen. Joe McCarthy's counsel, kept a framed copy of the New York Post from Oct. 17, 1980, endorsing Ronald Reagan for President, inscribed "To Roy Cohn with deepest appreciation and gratitude for all you've done, your protégé and friend, Roger Stone." When Cohn, a gay-basher, was dying of sodomy-induced AIDS, Stone was the toastmaster at his loving mentor's last big event.

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In 1975, Stone founded the National Conservative Political Action Committee (NCPAC) with Charles Black—who would become his permanent political partner—and Terry Dolan, an AIDS-stricken homosexual and radical "family values" right-winger. The main money for NCPAC came from North Carolina racist millionaire Tom Ellis—a promoter of Nazi eugenics—who ran the whole career of Senator Jesse Helms. Ellis brought in the new dirty-tricks consulting firm of Black, Manafort and Stone to run all Helms campaigns. Roy Cohn personally arranged for Jewish millionaires to stop contributing to Helms's opponents, in exchange for Helms changing his politics to support the extreme rightist Likud Party of Israel. Meanwhile NCPAC raised funds from conservatives for Oliver North's Central-American Contras, attempting to cover over the actual financing from narcotics trafficking.

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As Black's partner, Roger Stone soon became the permanent strategist for billionaire casino owner Donald Trump, who inherited some of the old Meyer Lansky properties. Stone built up his own interests in the organized-crime-dominated casino world, while acting as political director for the national Republican Party apparatus. In 1982, Stone managed the Senate campaign of Prescott Bush, Jr. (uncle to the current President), using NCPAC funds. To help in that failed Bush race, and for a Helms campaign, Stone and Black hired Roy Cohn protégé Dick Morris, who would later advise and betray President Bill Clinton
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More on Stone from democratic underground finding

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http://www.salon.com/news/news960812.html

"One of Tim Carey's comrades in the State Street Gang, Frank Trotta, attended a Republican camp for New Yorkers as a teenager. His counselors included Roger Stone, who would later hold leadership positions in the Reagan and Bush campaigns, and Terry Dolan, who later became the director of the National Conservative Political Action Committee."


http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_25_5...

"It's not that Stone is ignorant of politics. In fact, he loved politics from a very early age. He says he read Barry Goldwater's Conscience of a Conservative when he was twelve. Even as an adolescent, he spent every free minute working on Republican campaigns in Connecticut and New York with his close friend, the late Republican operative Terry Dolan.

<snip>

"Throughout the 1970s, Stone was a committed Republican, and a fairly conservative one. When he married in 1974, he and his wife honeymooned at a GOP camp for teens where they were counselors."


This second article, which originally appeared in National Review, has some additional interesting tidbits on Stone, such as this one:

"In 1986, he made the mistake of calling Vice President Bush a 'weenie' in Time magazine-a snub that has made it difficult for him in presidential-level GOP circles ever since."
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http://www.gnxp.com/MT2/archives/000857.html

But the Reagan administration, by all accounts, engineered the political leadership of the Contras, falling in love with a series of counterrevolutionaries who broke down under the weight of their own deficiencies.

One such leader was Adolfo Calero, who became Washington's Contra of choice in the mid-'80s. After graduating from Notre Dame, Calero had gone on to run Managua's Coca-Cola bottling plant. Despite ruling-class ties, Calero lambasted the Somoza dictatorship for its shabby economic management. He convinced his fellow businessmen to go on strike against the regime and helped launch the Authentic Conservative Party. All this right-wing activism meant that, when the Sadinisitas seized power, he ultimately had little choice but to take up a life of exile in Miami. It also made him an easy sell to American conservatives, a pitch enhanced by Calero's alliance with Republican consultant Roger Stone, from unita's lobbying firm. In direct-mail solicitations, Stone compared Calero to Washington at Valley Forge. Calero also expertly saddled up to the conservative bar. He became a fixture at Heritage and hit the campaign trail for favorite candidates. At the 1987 North Carolina Republican convention, he joined Jesse Helms on the dais. "Nicaragua is way below the Mason-Dixon line," he bellowed. "That makes me a rebel like you."
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I've plowed through a lot of material on the New Right, and there seem to be at least two major groups involved here. The one to which MacDougald and Bozell belong tends to be southern, culturally conservative, often racist, rabidly anti-Clinton, and funded by Scaife.

The other, to which Stone and Blackwell and Rove belong, and which comes out of the various Young Republican and College Republican groups of the 60's, is more northern, libertarian, given to Nixonian dirty tricks, and funded, I think, by Viguerie and Weyrich.

This doesn't mean that MacDougald and Stone couldn't have been part of the same operation. Both groups are, after all, dedicated to promoting the campaign of George W. But it does suggest that we'e unlikely to find any direct connection between them. They just don't hang out in the same circles.

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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0416/barrett.php

This is a different piece from the Village Voice article about Stone's Sharpton connection which was referenced above. It's full of fascinating details about Stone's Byzantine relationships with multiple Indian tribes and gaming interests, as well as on his connections with the White House.

Whether Stone turns out to be the source of the memoes or not, researching him has certainly turned up a lot of amazing information about how business is done on the wild side of the New Right.

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Hmmm... someone here has floated the name Armando Guiterrez, as the husband of Lucy Ramirez, the supposed source of Burkett's documents. Guiterrez, is 1) a member of the GOP riot at Palm Beach election offices. 2) Family spokesperson for the Elian Gonzalez debacle. 3) Paid aid to a judge, King, in Miami 4) Known in GOP and Cuban/American circles as someone who can make any opponent "disappear". Tell me.. WHAT is up with Florida??? WHY do so many unsavory GOP things seem to start and end there???

Wonder if anyone can confirm a link to this guy and the memos, or if the Lucy Ramirez/Armando Guiterrez thing is a goose chase. Interesting, though... Roger Stone's ex-wife owns a graphics company, through which Stone has run quite a few operations in the past few years...

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Enter Indian Country Today’s source, a Democratic political campaign operative who divulged to Indian Country Today that he did in fact turn the materials over to Time, stating that he acted after receiving information from Roger Stone, a confirmed one-time operative for Atlantic City Casino mogul Donald Trump.

Through a letter sent to Indian Country Today by his attorney, Stone has disputed the claim that he instigated the Time magazine story. "Mr. Stone believes that an individual by the name of Mike Copperthite is claiming to have provided the information to Time magazine at Mr. Stone’s instigation." The statement says this claim is "false in all respects."

http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?articl...

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=artic...

But the committee's real organizer, the election commission said, was veteran GOP political consultant Roger Stone, who has been involved in major campaigns dating to Richard M. Nixon's administration. The election commission wanted to question Stone, who owns a home in Florida, but it couldn't locate him to serve a subpoena.

In a recent report on the matter, the commission says Stone persuaded McCarty to head the committee and that he supplied $150,000 from undisclosed sources. The group mailed letters to 350,000 Republican voters asking for money to send "a clear message to the Florida Supreme Court that we will not tolerate their efforts to highjack the presidential election for Al Gore."

The Florida Elections Commission concluded that McCarty violated several state election laws, including accepting contributions exceeding the $500 state limit and filing an inaccurate disclosure report. McCarty has sued in federal court, seeking to block the commission proceedings. She told the Associated Press: "I didn't do any of this except sign my name. . . . This was basically some sort of a scam that was set up that I was used in. I was duped."
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This one is also interesting

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/politicselections/nation/p...

"Burkett told USA TODAY that he had agreed to turn over the documents to CBS if the network would arrange a conversation with the Kerry campaign.

"The network's effort to place Burkett in contact with a top Democratic official raises ethical questions about CBS' handling of material potentially damaging to the Republican president in the midst of an election. This "poses a real danger to the potential credibility ... of a news organization," said Aly Colón, a news ethicist at The Poynter Institute for Media Studies."
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more from democratic underground on Roger Stone

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This is a 2004 story about how Roger Stone spread malicious stories about Pat Buchanan, helped break up the Reform Party, and open the door to its nomination of Ralph Nader.

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0420/barrett.php

Excerpt:

"Pat Buchanan ... seized control of the most successful third party in half a century, the Reform Party, whose founder, Ross Perot, cost Bush I the presidency in 1992. Once Buchanan became the party's presidential nominee, he mysteriously disappeared, getting 2.4 million votes less than Ralph Nader, 80,000 less in Florida alone. The Buchanan saga remains important not only because it reveals the seamy underside of Bush II's ascent to power, but because it shows how the GOP virtually eliminated a national centrist party that could've altered the 2004 race.

Alive now in only seven states, the party's remnants just offered their ballot line to Nader, which could also wind up benefiting Bush. The saga begins with a baby, allegedly born more than four decades ago. Incredibly, just as Bush backers in 2000 used an illegitimate-child scandal in South Carolina to smear John McCain, longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative Roger Stone was simultaneously using just such a scandal to undermine Buchanan."


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Dole aide denies sex allegations
By The Associated Press


NEW YORK -- Now it's the Republicans' turn to see one of their own in a tabloid sex tale.

Roger Stone, a volunteer adviser with Bob Dole's presidential campaign and onetime chairman for Sen. Arlen Specter's short-lived White House bid, yesterday denied allegations that he visited a sex club with his wife and placed X-rated ads on the Internet and in magazines.

The allegations appear in the New York Post, which cited upcoming editions of the supermarket tabloids National Enquirer and Star.

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The Post quoted Mr. Stone as conceding that the bills for the postings on the Internet site were paid for with his credit card. He told the newspaper the post office box number listed on the Internet site belonged to him, but had been improperly obtained.

In June, Mr. Stone was named to the Dole campaign's "Clinton Accountability Team" of surrogates to help make Mr. Dole's case against the Democratic incumbent.



http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/09-96/09-13-96/a04...

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but I thought his wife's name was Nikki. Some one should dig up that old Enquirer story about their spouse swapping adventures. It happened while he was working on the Dole campaing.

"Roger Stone, a millionaire political consultant who began his career as a 19-year-old Watergate dirty trickster, virtually took over the Sharpton campaign in the last quarter of 2003, according to reports in the New York Times (January 25), Salon.com ("A GOP Trickster Rents Sharpton," February 3) and New York’s Village Voice ("Sleeping with the GOP," February 3). ...Roger Stone is the Hard Right storm trooper whose goons bum-rushed the Miami-Dade elections offices in 2000, shutting down the recount and setting the stage for George Bush’s "selection."

http://www.legitgov.org/shortnews_0204.html
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During the 2000 Recount, Jim Baker called Roger Stone to help fix the election down in Miami. Armando Gutierrez, formerly Elian's spokesman, helped organized the Cuban side of the mob. The same people who happened to be in the mob at Elian's house. The next day the canvassing board decided to stop the recount, but claimed that they had not been intimidated.

Of course, they weren't intimidated. It was all part of the show. Armando Gutierrez is directly connected to each of the three members of the canvassing board. Gutierrez was a paid consultant for Judge Lawrence King, the Chairman of the Canvassing Board.

This 'violent action', shut down the recount. The rights of millions of people in Florida were denied. The right to have their vote counted was denied. This was not a violent riot, it was a staged event. The Miami/Dade Canvassing Board, Robert Stone and Armando Gutierrez should be investigated and charges should be filed against them for their numerous crimes. It's time for this to stop.

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What the world watched was a GOP melee. When Geller walked out of the room with a sample ballot, the crowd accused him of stealing a real one and responded as if he had just nabbed a baby for its organs. Geller says he was pushed by two dozen protesters screaming, "I'm gonna take you down!" Luis Rosero, a Democratic observer, claims he was punched and kicked. Republicans dispute the charges, but video cameras caught scenes of activism that had morphed into menace. The organizers in the RV outside, who GOP protesters have told TIME were led by hardball Washington strategist Roger Stone , had phone banks churning out calls to Miami Republicans, urging them to storm downtown. (Stone could not be reached for comment.) One of them was a fire fighter, Rob Eltus, 45: "What Americans are finally seeing is Republicans fed up."

But what really may have given the canvassing board pause was a sight that strikes fear in any Florida politician, especially elected Dade County judges like Lawrence King, the board's chairman: angry Cuban voters. They marched on the Clark Center after a conservative radio station, Radio Mambí, broadcast interviews with two Cuban-American GOP members of Congress, Lincoln Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, who decried the board's moves. For Miami's Cubans, almost 80 percent of whom voted for Bush, this election is mostly about avenging Elian Gonzalez. One of Judge King's paid political consultants is Armando Gutierrez, the man who distributed the Orwellian videotape of Elian denouncing his father last spring.

http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:SA64Vnw9F9YJ:www.t...



On Nov. 22, 2000, after learning that the Miami canvassing board was starting an examination of 10,750 disputed ballots that had previously not been counted, Rep. John Sweeney, a New York Republican, called on Republican troops to ?shut it down,? according to Down and Dirty. Brendan Quinn, executive director of the New York GOP, told about two dozen Republican operatives to storm the room on the 19th floor where the canvassing board was meeting, Tapper reported.

?Emotional and angry, they immediately make their way outside the larger room in which the tabulating room is contained,? Tapper wrote. ?The mass of ?angry voters? on the 19th floor swells to maybe 80 people,? including many of the Republican activists from outside Florida.

News cameras captured the chaotic scene outside the canvassing board's offices. The protesters shouted slogans and banged on the doors and walls. The unruly protest prevented official observers and members of the press from reaching the room. Miami-Dade county spokesman Mayco Villafana was pushed and shoved. Security officials feared the confrontation was spinning out of control.

The canvassing board suddenly reversed its decision and canceled the recount. ?Until the demonstration stops, nobody can do anything,? said David Leahy, Miami?s supervisor of elections, although the canvassing board members would later insist that they were not intimidated into stopping the recount.

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:smIBdaSa53wJ:www.con...


There was substantial Miami Cuban right wing involvement in the Miami Dade Canvassing Board decision to stop the recount: the mob which intimidated the Board was urged on by no less than two Cuban American members of Congress over the radio and on-site, in effect giving them the green light. The Gully reports that Congresswoman "Ros-Lehtinen, who is Cuban-American, was protesting against the recount outside the Miami-Dade county building last week while Sweeney was getting ready to utter his fateful phrase inside. Both she and Representative Lincoln Diaz-Balart, the other Cuban-born Republican in the U.S. Congress, had called on Cuban-Americans to join the protest, in on-site interviews granted to Radio Mambi, Miami's biggest Spanish-language station." Both members of Congress support and are supported by the all powerful Cuban American National Foundation, the CANF.

The mob consisted of a mix of Cuban American thugs and Republican politicos from out of town, a mix reminiscent of Watergate. Whether they actually intimidated the commission or not is of course disputed but it is irrelevant for as the Gully reports, "two of the three canvassing board members ... county judges Myriam Lehr, an Independent, and Lawrence D. King, a Democrat, were re-elected to the bench thanks to the cut-throat political consultant Armando Gutierrez, last spotted as the 'spokesman' for Elian's Miami relatives." You'll remember Gutierrez as the political consultant who was paid $10,000 by the Family Court judge who ordered Elian into the custody of his Miami relatives. Gutierrez was very busy citing human rights abuses in Cuba as a reason for Elian to stay in Miami, land of the free.

We also have word from Peter Dale Scott that "Elections supervisor David Leahy of the Miami-Dade Canvassing Board, one of the three who voted to stop the recount, works for Penelas." Mayor Penelas also featured prominently in the Elian affair, siding with the hard liners. Scott is the co-author of Cocaine Politics and of an informative memorandum on Jose Basulto, another CANF ally who is at the heart of the current US Cuba phone dispute.


http://www.afrocubaweb.com/miamimachine.htm


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http://www.offthekuff.com/mt/archives/002266.html

Off the Kuff

August 21, 2003
Roger Stone update
My faithful correspondent Alfredo Garcia has been mailing me regular updates on the case of Mary McCarty and Roger Stone. McCarty is a Republican County Commissioner from Palm Beach who was cited for election law violations as chair of a PAC called the Committee to Take Back Our Judiciary, which was formed in the aftermath of the Florida election circus of 2000 with the intent of unelecting three state Supreme Court judges who had had made a favorable ruling to Al Gore in his effort to get a statewide recount. Stone is the man who allegedly financed the PAC; McCarty claims she did nothing knowingly wrong but merely followed Stone's bidding. You can read some background here, here, here, here, and here.

All along, Stone has refused to give up any information about the source of the $150,000 that was used to fund Take Back Our Judiciary, and the state laws are essentially toothless to compel him to do so. Now comes the kicker: Stone was personally recruited by James Baker to "help the Bush-Cheney post-election campaign in Florida".



“Shortly after Election Day, Stone received a call from Baker aide Margaret Tutwiler, who said, “Mr. Baker would like you to go to Florida,” Toobin wrote in “Too Close to Call,” his 2001 book on the presidential election meltdown.

Toobin also reported that on Nov. 22, 2000, Stone was a leader at a noisy protest outside the Miami-Dade County election division’s offices in the Stephen P. Clark Center in downtown Miami. The protesters were upset about the recount that was ordered to continue the day before by a unanimous Florida Supreme Court. The protest disrupted the recount.

“From a building across the street, Roger Stone communicated with his people on the ground by walkie-talkie,” wrote Toobin, who interviewed Stone for the book.



I do believe he's referring to the so-called bourgeois riot, in which paid GOP activists were flown in to shut down an ongoing recount. Amazing how cozy these working relationships can be, isn't it?

This is yet another piece in a larger pattern of grabbing power by the national Republican Party. I can joke all I want to about tinfoil hats, but at some point one has to wonder if it's crazier to believe or not to believe. Teresa's words, first spoken here, ring more and more true: "I deeply resent the way this administration makes me feel like a nutbar conspiracy theorist."

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http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0405/barrett.php

A Bush Covert Operative Takes Over Al Sharpton's Campaign
Sleeping With the GOP
by Wayne Barrett with special reporting by Adam Hutton and Christine Lagorio
February 5th, 2004 8:20 AM

Roger Stone, the longtime Republican dirty-tricks operative who led the mob that shut down the Miami-Dade County recount and helped make George W. Bush president in 2000, is financing, staffing, and orchestrating the presidential campaign of Reverend Al Sharpton.

Though Stone and Sharpton have tried to reduce their alliance to a curiosity, suggesting that all they do is talk occasionally, a Voice investigation has documented an extraordinary array of connections. Stone played a pivotal role in putting together Sharpton's pending application for federal matching funds, getting dollars in critical states from family members and political allies at odds with everything Sharpton represents. He's also helped stack the campaign with a half-dozen incongruous top aides who've worked for him in prior campaigns. He's even boasted about engineering six-figure loans to Sharpton's National Action Network (NAN) and allowing Sharpton to use his credit card to cover thousands in NAN costs—neither of which he could legally do for the campaign. In a wide-ranging Voice interview Sunday, Stone confirmed his matching-fund and staffing roles, but refused to comment on the NAN subsidies.

Sharpton denounced the Voice's inquiries as "phony liberal paternalism," insisting that he'd "talk to anyone I want" and likening his use of Stone to Bill Clinton's reliance on pollster Dick Morris, saying he was "sick of these racist double standards." He did not dispute that Stone had helped generate matching contributions and staff the campaign. Asked about the Stone loans, he conceded that he "asked him to help NAN," but attributed the financial aid to his and Stone's joint "fight against the Rockefeller drug laws," adding: "If he did let me use his credit card to cover NAN expenses, fine." The finances of NAN and the Sharpton campaign have so merged in recent months that they have shared everything from contractors to consultants to travel expenses, though Sharpton insists that these questionable maneuvers have been done in compliance with Federal Election Commission regulations.

Stone's Miami-based Fairbanks Limited also set up an e-mail service called Sharpton-at-the-beach, which has issued dozens of releases highlighting campaign achievements before news of them was posted on the campaign website. His impact on strategy even included giving Sharpton the ax handle he wielded at the July NAACP convention, which Sharpton used as a symbol of former Georgia Democratic governor Lester Maddox, who became famous in the '60s by chasing blacks from his restaurant with one. Sharpton stirred the crowd, yelling from the podium: "Anytime we can give a party 92 percent of our vote and have to still beg some people to come talk to us, there is still an ax-handle mentality among some in the Democratic Party." Sharpton said he doesn't remember whether Stone gave him the ax handle. Stone declined to comment, but has boasted to friends that he came up with the theatrics.

Recruited in 2000 by his friend James Baker, the former secretary of state, to spearhead the GOP street forces in Miami, Stone is apparently confident that he can use the Democrat-bashing preacher to damage the party's eventual nominee, just as Sharpton himself bragged he did in the New York mayoral campaign of 2001. In his 2002 book, Al on America, Sharpton wrote that he felt the city's Democratic Party "had to be taught a lesson" in 2001—insisting that Mark Green, who defeated the Sharpton-backed Fernando Ferrer in a bitter runoff, had disrespected him and minorities. Adding that the party "still has to be taught one nationally," he warned: "A lot of 2004 will be about what happened in New York in 2001. It's about dignity." In 2001, Sharpton engaged in a behind-the-scenes dialogue with campaign aides to Republican Mike Bloomberg while publicly disparaging Green.

Sharpton recently rebuffed an appeal by DNC chair Terry McAuliffe to join a post-primary March 25 event to support the nominee, sending a letter saying he would attend but would also "continue to campaign vigorously until the last day of the convention." He has also repeatedly vowed that he would speak on prime-time TV during the July convention, saying party leaders would decide "whether that's inside the hall or out in the parking lot," threatening demonstrations unless granted exposure guaranteed to turn off many voters. Stone terminated a 45-minute Voice interview shortly after he was asked about any involvement he might have had with the letter to McAuliffe, saying he was "not characterizing my conversations with Sharpton," though he freely did in a recent Times interview.

While Bush forces like the Club for Growth were buying ads in Iowa assailing then front-runner Howard Dean, Sharpton took center stage at a debate confronting Dean about the absence of blacks in his Vermont cabinet. Stone told the Times that he "helped set the tone and direction" of the Dean attacks, while Charles Halloran, the Sharpton campaign manager installed by Stone, supplied the research. While other Democratic opponents were also attacking Dean, none did it on the advice of a consultant who's worked in every GOP presidential campaign since his involvement in the Watergate scandals of 1972, including all of the Bush family campaigns. Asked if he'd ever been involved in a Democratic campaign before, Stone cited his 1981 support of Ed Koch, though he was quoted at the time as saying he only did it because Koch was also given the Republican ballot line.

Just as Stone has a history of political skulduggery, Sharpton has a little-noticed history of Republican machinations inconsistent with his fiery rhetoric. He endorsed Al D'Amato in 1986, appeared with George Pataki two days before his 1994 race against Mario Cuomo, invited Ralph Nader to his headquarters on the eve of the 2000 vote, befriended Bill Powers when he was the state GOP chair, and debuted as a preacher in the church of a black minister who was also a Brooklyn Republican district leader. The current co-chair of his presidential campaign gave as much to Bush-Cheney as he did to Sharpton, and many of the black businessmen supporting this campaign or NAN have strong GOP ties. His conduit in the Bloomberg campaign, Harold Doley III, was the son of the first black with a seat on Wall Street. A major NAN backer over the years, Doley Jr. was appointed to positions in five Republican administrations, including Bush's.

Stone, whose Miami mob even jostled a visiting Sharpton during the recount, said recently in The American Spectator that if Sharpton were to run "as an independent" in the 2006 Hillary Clinton race, she would be "sunk," implicitly suggesting that this operation may be a precursor to another Stone-Sharpton mission. In his book Too Close to Call, New Yorker columnist Jeffrey Toobin exposed Baker's tapping of Stone, as well as Stone and his Cuban wife Nydia's role in firing up Cuban protesters, with Stone calling the shots the day of the shutdown over a walkie-talkie in a building across the street from the canvassing board headquarters. The Stone mob was chanting Sharpton's slogan "No Justice, No Peace" when the board stopped the count, which was universally seen as the turning point in the battle that made Bush president.

The Washington Post recently reported that the Bush campaign was planning a special advertising campaign targeting black voters, seeking as much as a quarter of the vote, and any Sharpton-connected outrage against the party could either lower black turnout in several key close states, or move votes to Bush. Both were widely reported as the consequences of Sharpton's anti-Green rhetoric in 2001, a result Sharpton celebrated both in his book and at a Bronx victory party on election night.

A Mysterious Marriage

The Stone involvement in the Sharpton campaign began in early March at a lunch at Gallagher's, a midtown steak house that Stone frequents. Stone and Sharpton do not disagree that two mutual friends, Democratic consultant Hank Sheinkopf and anti-Rockefeller-drug-law activist Randy Credico, helped to arrange it. Sheinkopf and Credico say Stone asked them to arrange the meeting, and Credico recalls "repeated pressure" from Stone to put it together. Stone says both are "mistaken" and that Sheinkopf suggested it to Sharpton and that Sharpton sought the meeting. Sharpton was scheduled at one point to fly to Miami for the get-together, says Credico, but canceled. Sheinkopf says it was "certainly Stone who initiated it," though he agreed that "Sharpton needed to talk to people who know how to do presidential campaigns."

Sharpton, who brought lawyer Sanford Rubinstein and NAN director Marjorie Harris Smikle to the lunch, said everyone present—including Sheinkopf and Stone—believed he needed to hire experienced staff. Stone discussed the daunting requirement of raising at least $5,000 in 20 states to obtain federal matching funds and outlined some of "the things he had to do," according to Sheinkopf, to achieve it. Credico recalls that Stone "mentioned Halloran's name," dumping on the inexperienced consultant, Roberto Ramirez, who Sharpton was then using. "They had a natural affinity," Sheinkopf said, "and agreed to continue talking."

Credico said Stone explained his interest in working with Sharpton by saying that they had "a mutual obsession: We both hate the Democratic Party." Stone told Credico that he "would have some fun with Sharpton's campaign" and "bring Terry McAuliffe to his knees." Stone, Credico, and Sheinkopf walked to Stone's apartment after the lunch, and Stone was elated with the tenor of the meeting.

Sharpton was already negotiating a deal with Frank Watkins, who ran both of Jesse Jackson's presidential campaigns, so he took no immediate action on Stone's suggestions. Halloran was busy anyway with another Stone- arranged assignment—running the parliamentary campaign for the United Bermuda Party, ironically the white-led party seeking to unseat the island's first black government. Halloran had also managed a Stone-run campaign in New York in 2002, spending nearly $65 million of billionaire Tom Golisano's money and getting the Independence Party candidate a mere 14 percent of the vote in the gubernatorial race. Stone, whose firm represented the prior Bermuda government, did initial work in the 2003 race there and left, recommending Halloran. Sharpton says that when the Bermuda job was over in September, he hired Halloran to work under Watkins, but that when he discovered that Jackson and Watkins were "sabotaging my campaign" and were really with Howard Dean, he replaced Watkins with Halloran.

Halloran is a capable operative who claims he did advance work in the first Clinton campaign, and that he worked as a consultant in a statewide Democratic race in Georgia and as a volunteer for Al Gore during the recount battle. He has become so close to Stone over the last two years, however, that he stays at Stone's 40 Central Park South apartment when he's in New York working for Sharpton. Halloran and his wife celebrated Stone's 50th birthday with him and his wife last year, and the two operatives talk virtually every day. By his own account, Halloran made so much money in the Golisano and Bermuda campaigns, he has so far worked for Sharpton since September 4 without receiving a single cent in pay.

Sharpton's latest FEC filing lists him as collecting nearly $5,000 in expense reimbursement. The campaign also owes him $50,000 in pay through December 31. It's the only time he can recall running a campaign on trust. Since Sharpton 2004 now owes ($348,450) almost as much as it's raised ($382,766), and since the Rev has left a notorious trail of other liens in his wake, it's a peculiar level of trust.

Angels for Al

The same paucity of payments is true for a collection of other Stone-Halloran associates working in the campaign. Ernest Baynard, another Golisano campaign veteran who helped set up the Sharpton-at-the-beach e-mail address and does press and research for the campaign, hasn't been paid a cent and is listed as a $20,000 debtor. Ironically, while working for Sharpton, Baynard's Meridian Hill Strategies has been simultaneously retained by another campaign Stone helped launch, arch-conservative Larry Klayman's run for the U.S. Senate in Florida. Two other ex-Golisano consultants, Joe Ruffin and Andre Johnson, ran Sharpton's campaign in the Washington, D.C., primary last month, and unlike Halloran and Baynard, were actually paid for it, a total of $12,900. (Johnson is owed an additional $3,500.)

The Archer Group, a San Francisco– based consulting company that reeled in $246,000 from Golisano, dispatched its two top executives, Michael Pitts and Ron Coleman, to New York back in September. In all this time, the company has only been paid $5,000 by the campaign for "logistics." The campaign filing lists the company as owed only another $5,000 for "rent"—on an office/ apartment at 50 West 34th Street, where the company used to run its Sharpton operations. Pitts, whom Stone gratuitously described as "a 300-pound black Democratic operative," says they were recruited by Halloran "to do a national field operation plan." Admitting that it makes him "uneasy" that Stone is so involved in the Sharpton campaign, Pitts says he nonetheless participated in at least five strategy sessions with Stone to plan field operations, labeling him a "Mr. Know-It-All Kind of Guy." Calling Stone's involvement "sinister," Pitts simultaneously dismissed it, saying Stone "just wants to be disruptive" and "likes to be in the "expletive deleted"."

All the other payments to Archer were made not by the campaign, but by NAN, which Stone has reportedly been quietly subsidizing. Pitts acknowledged that they signed a $20,000-a-month contract with Sharpton, but says the price was subsequently reduced. He says they were paid entirely by NAN until December, ostensibly to run a voter registration operation. But Pitts concedes that all they did was a registration plan, never any registration, and that they began "to focus more on scheduling" for the Rev, saying that many of the events they scheduled across the country were "shared events," part campaign and part NAN.

"We knew some of these things were commingled," he said. "We heard from Charles that it had been ruled that our arrangements had gotten a bit too hazy." Was there, he asked, "a hazy thing" about being paid by NAN to do scheduling for the campaign? "Yeah, you get caught up in the middle of it."

In early December, Pitts says they went on the campaign payroll. But by the end of December, the 34th Street office was vacated and Coleman was back in California. Pitts stayed with it, spending most of the last few weeks in South Carolina, and moving on this week to Michigan, where Sharpton plans a major effort. Elizebeth Burke, another Golisano aide, worked with Coleman and Pitts, first at Sharpton's campaign office at the hospital workers union, and then at the Archer apartment. She says the $5,000 payment to Archer is "laughable" compared to the amount of campaign work the company did. Burke was paid $1,000 a week, half by NAN and half by the campaign, and says she did "all the logistics" for him across the country, "working with debate organizers and creating campaign events."

Burke says Pitts and Coleman told her that Stone made "at least two loans in six figures to NAN, totaling well over $200,000"—and that they were all "stunned to hear about it" because Stone, she said, "has to know that he'll never get it back." She also recounted how in December, Sharpton personally wrote a $10,000 check for Archer's services that bounced. "We found out the account didn't exist; it was a closed account." The campaign and NAN, which she calls "a shell," were in such disarray that "the only way we were staying afloat was through other sources that might not be legal, Republican sources."

Credico, who's remained in close touch with Stone throughout the Sharpton adventure and who heard the Maddox story from him, says Stone told him he took a $270,000 promissory note from Sharpton. Stone also told Credico that Sharpton ran up $18,000 on his credit card last year, covering some of the costs of a California trip, including a fundraising dinner thrown by NAN. "I can't believe Roger's still involved with Sharpton," Credico said. "All he does is complain to me about Sharpton owing him all this money. Last time we had dinner, I told him, Why don't you just get out of it?" Credico has his own complaints about the campaign's finances, saying that Stone and Halloran promised to send him to Iowa but never did, setting him back the price of an airplane ticket from California when he rushed back to New York.

Asked about the $270,000 and the $18,000 by the Voice, Stone replied: "Go badger somebody else." Sharpton said the Voice should get NAN's IRS filings for the payments, knowing that they do not detail revenue sources and don't have to be filed for months. "That was our annual event in California," he said, insisting only that any possible credit card purchases by Stone were NAN-related exclusively. "I asked a lot of people to help." He said the same thing about the loans: "I asked him in terms of the network." The NAN loans are a potential illegal end-run around FEC limits, as are his donated services, which are an in-kind contribution to the campaign from a professional consultant.

The combination of the unpaid or underpaid services of Stone, Halloran, Baynard, Archer, et al., together with the NAN subsidies, paint a picture of a Sharpton operation that is utterly dependent on his new ally Stone, whose own sponsors are as unclear as ever. Stone is friendly with a number of Bush sidekicks, from Baker to powerhouse GOP Washington lobbyists like Wayne Berman and Scott Reed. Berman has received a seven-figure finder's fee from Carlyle, the D.C.-based equity engine that includes Baker. Former president Bush worked for the Carlyle Group until late last year. Halloran's wife, Chris Trampf, works at Carlyle, though Halloran insists she is merely a back-office staffer.

Blackface Bucks

Stone acknowledged that he "helped Sharpton" in the campaign's desperate attempt in November and December to reach the $5,000 matching-fund threshold in 20 states. "I collected checks," he said. "That's how matching funds is done. I like Al Sharpton. I was helping a friend." Sharpton was the last candidate to meet the December 31 deadline and is immediately seeking more than $150,000 in federal funding. If the FEC, which has been reviewing his application for a month, determines that he meets the threshold, Sharpton will be eligible for more.

But he only submitted 21 states, and at least one, Illinois, is unlikely to be certified, since it came in at $5,100 and contains two $250 contributions from the same individual. Only single contributions of up to $250 can count toward the threshold. That means Sharpton's funding—against which he has already taken a $150,000 bank loan—is the lifeblood of the campaign. Stone and Halloran allies, including staffers Johnson and Ruffin, kicked in the last four $250 contributions in D.C., all on December 30 and 31, that gave Sharpton a perilous $5,332 total.

In Florida, Stone's wife, Nydia; son Scott; daughter-in-law Laurie; mother-in-law Olga Bertran; executive assistant Dianne Thorne; Tim Suereth, who lives with Thorne; and Halloran's mother, Jane Stone (unrelated to Roger, he says), pushed Sharpton comfortably over the threshold, donating $250 apiece in December. Jeanmarie Ferrara, who works at a Miami public relations firm that joined Stone in the '90s fight on behalf of the sugar industry against a tax to resuscitate the Everglades, also gave $250, as did the wife of the firm's name partner, Ray Casas. Another lobbyist, Eli Feinberg, a Republican giver appointed to a top position by the Republican state insurance commissioner, did $250.

Clive and Lenore Baldwin, entertainers known for their impersonations of Al Jolson and Sophie Tucker, came in at the matchable maximum as well. Stone adopted their act years ago, producing a Clive Baldwin recording, and putting him onstage at the 1996 Republican National Convention. In a Times tale of a recent Baldwin appearance in Long Island, he wound up being "shown the door" after a "confrontation" with angry black caterers. (Apparently Stone could not locate Amos & Andy for a contribution.)

Two vendors for a current campaign assisted by Stone—the senate campaign of Larry Klayman—also donated in Florida, with public relations consultant Michael Caputo and Tasmania Productions owner Teddi Segal donating $250 (she says she doesn't know Stone). Caputo, ironically, was Stone's spokesman in 1996, when Stone was embroiled in the most embarrassing scandal of his career—the much ballyhooed revelation that he and his wife had advertised, with photos, for swinging partners in magazines and on the Internet. Caputo has, until recently, been handling press inquiries for Klayman, an evangelical who led the sex assault in Washington on Bill Clinton and is running a moral-majority, retake-Cuba campaign for senate. Stone volunteered behind the scenes for Klayman too, and several Stone-tied vendors, like Baynard and pollster Fabrizio, McLaughlin & Associates, have been retained.

In fact, the treasurer of the Klayman campaign, Paul Jensen, a top Bush administration transportation official, joined his wife, Pamela, in making $250 donations on December 30 to Sharpton, helping get him over the threshold in a third state. Jensen contributed to Sharpton, who favors a federal law certifying civil unions for homosexuals, even though the lawyer has filed suits in 16 states seeking to defrock Presbyterian ministers who've "violated their vows" by ordaining gays. Stone has been in frequent touch with Jensen and Klayman in recent months and said that he might have "told Halloran to call him for a check" or asked himself, as he indicated he might have with many others on this list of anomalies.

Though Sharpton conceded that he asked Stone to "help raise the matching funds," he said "everybody helped me qualify," adding that "it's ridiculous" to suggest that Stone's role, though he concedes it made a difference in some states, was of any overall significance. He insisted, accurately, that the bulk of his contributions were from black supporters across the country, attracted to his candidacy. But that does not make any less indispensable the critical, targeted fundraising Stone engineered. Halloran traveled through Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama in a last-ditch December effort to nail down enough to meet the threshold.

Sharpton and Stone are, in a sense, brothers under the skin, outlandish personalities too large to be bound by the constraints that govern the rest of us. Stone was the registered agent in America for Argentina's intelligence agency, sucking up spy novels; Sharpton was a confidential informant for the FBI, wiring up on black leaders for the feds. Stone is a fashion impersonator, dressing like a hip-hop dandy; Sharpton, having shed his gold medallion and jogger suits, now looks like a smooth banker. Stone was involved in Watergate at the age of 19; Sharpton was a boy-wonder preacher. Stone's mentor from the days of his youth was Roy Cohn; Sharpton's was James Brown. Sharpton is a minister without a church; Stone is almost as rootless, having left the powerhouse Washington firm he helped form years ago. Each reinvents himself daily, if not hourly, as if nothing in their past matters.

For all his brilliance and personal charm, Sharpton's political bombast has always been more spectacle than belief. He is so determined to reach Jesse's heights he's sunk lower than ever, mining black America for Bush's secret agent. He recently ate dinner in a Manhattan restaurant with Stone and found himself sitting opposite former FBI agent Joe Spinelli, who flipped him after picking him up in a mob video sting. All the ironies of his life are coming home to roost, just as he stands in a brighter limelight than he's ever enjoyed. The Rev needs to get some religion.
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motive maybe?

http://www.polstate.com/archives/005265.html
Monday, April 12, 2004
NY: (Convention) Buyer's Remorse?
by Peter Levinson

Whether New Yorkers feel they need a reminder that the war on terror can be fought in New York City, the reporter doesn't say. Roger Stone gets the last word in the Times story.
"I think the decision to go to New York was predicated on the fact that this war effort was as successful as the gulf war effort under President George H. W. Bush," he said. But, he added, "While the conduct of the war was probably a plus for the president, it now has the potential to be a negative and therefore the party's presence in New York becomes problematic."
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it all links up forgot to post this thread from democratic underground
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http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cgi-bin/getcase.pl?court= ...

It looks like a court case involving bank fraud in south Florida. With someone by the name of Lucia Ramirez. The reason why I think there maybe a connection is because I know stone and bunch of these others are in south Florida. I know it seems like a long shot but just though I'd put it out their.

In February of 1995, BankAtlantic acquired MegaBank, a Dade County commercial bank, in order to create an international division. MegaBank's international division was headed by Piedad Ortiz, and after the acquisition, she became Vice President of BankAtlantic's international division. Ortiz had overseen approximately 1100 accounts at MegaBank, and she continued this supervision at BankAtlantic. Shortly after acquiring MegaBank, BankAtlantic conducted an internal audit of its new international division, and this audit revealed suspicious practices. A private pouch service made regular deliveries addressed to "BankAtlantic, International Division, Attention Ms. Piedad Ortiz." These pouches, which were uninsured, contained large amounts of checks, money orders and negotiable instruments along with deposit and transfer instructions. The pouches originated from a private courier service-discretely located in the back of another business-in Bogota, Columbia, and the checks and other instruments transported in the pouches were from various locations in the United States, including New York and New Jersey. BankAtlantic discovered that Ortiz and her assistant, Lucia Ramirez (who had also joined BankAtlantic as part of the MegaBank acquisition), were responsible for initiating and maintaining this pouch service.
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I believe I found the evidence. Everything now adds up please send this out we have the link and evidence of what happen with this. The case is solved I'll underline a lot of stuff. This is from free republic first I want you to look at the date and time of the post, We need the media to find out who crushkerry is. The look at the underline points. Everything adds up. We've solved the CBS Memo case.

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Memo To Karl Rove
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Posted on 09/09/2004 8:27:59 AM PDT by crushkerry


Two polls, one from TIME Magazine, the other from NEWSWEEK suggest a powerful bounce for President George W. Bush in the wake of a successful Republican National Convention . While we correctly predicted those polls showed a larger lead than the President actually had, subsequent polls have indicated the President's has between a 4-8 point lead. Moreover, John Kerry’s campaign is still showing signs of haplessness.

But now is not the time for ritual strutting. All this “hitting the final sprint” nonsense is a destructive ruse. We still have debates and about $200 million of advertising before voters make a choice. Besides, as we have said , the NEWSWEEK and TIME polls are heavily skewed in favor of Republicans. Expect a headline two weeks hence: Bush Bounce All but Gone.

If we were only slightly more paranoid than we are, we might believe a Big Media conspiracy to declare Bush the winner just in time for Comeback Kerry to slip in from behind. So herewith is another of our totally unsolicited, totally unprovoked memos to presidential advisor Karl Rove:

Mr. Rove:

Some passing thoughts on how to turn your current advantage into an electoral rout. Hope this helps:

Let’s turn John Kerry into a joke

In this highly partisan and energized political environment, being ahead in the polls simply isn’t enough. Of course, the polls will tighten. And the Democrats will lie, cheat and steal on Election Day. We’re probably looking at another 50-50 election. Down to the wire.

BUT … we do believe there is an opening right now, while the president’s poll numbers are high and folks are having serious doubts about John Kerry, to turn the corner on this guy and paint him not as a worthy adversary but rather as a joke. To be charitable, America’s Most Liberal Senator has provided your op-research staff with a target rich environment. You haven’t even touched on the Massachusetts liberal angle. Remember his Big Dig hush money? Might make for a fun ad and a clever way to remind people this clown is from the most repugnant place in America east of the Mississippi. And let’s not forget this guy Kerry claims to have a secret hat in a secret compartment in his briefcase from a secret mission with a secret agent we now know never took place. See what we’re getting at? Before you know it, Mike Dukakis himself will try to hide chuckle behind a cough.

Ignore the Ben Barnes Attacks

The strength of a scandal lies in the newness of the information it provides and the degree to which it fundamentally alters peoples’ perceptions of a candidate, a la John Kerry’s Vietnam record. Most, if not all, Americans recognize George W. Bush as the non-war hero son of a wealthy political family. Having Barnes confirm such a perception on CBS will not hurt the president’s image one iota. Especially considering Barnes’ shocking lack of credibility. We rather like the president’s line about John Kerry having served more admirably than he during Vietnam. It is true, sincere, and humble. That should be enough.

Do not allow the 1,000 US casualties in Iraq steer our president off course

The American people have demonstrated time and again they are more resilient, more confident, and yes, more patriotic than John Kerry. Frankly, his ghoulish gloating in the past few days over hitting the 1,000 dead mark is sick and disturbing. Then again, little more should be expected from a man who accused his fellow Vietnam Vets of war crimes.

Some, many will hate the president for Iraq. Most Americans recognize that the choice, as John McCain so beautifully stated, was between war and a graver threat.

…But do prevent another hurricane in Florida

Okay, even George W. Bush, with all the power of Halliburton and the Saudi Royal family at his fingertips cannot prevent another hurricane. But it is a fact that a third, and possibly even bigger, hurricane is headed toward Florida. The first two Florida hurricanes this year have left hundreds of thousands of families without power, without supplies, and in some cases homeless. Recent news coverage details stories of violent outbreaks at gas lines and supermarkets. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has received much of the blame for over-promising and under-delivering. But folks who are suffering can’t blame FEMA on Election Day. They can blame George W. Bush. And rest assured John Kerry and his Democrat echo chamber will use natural disasters to their electoral advantage. He is that tactless. So please, if you have half the unscrupulous power Al Franken and Michael Moore say you do, ward off that third hurricane.

You’ve got ‘the Vision Thing.’ Now more pandering ...

To our way of thinking, the Bush campaign still has some cracks that need patching. Heretofore, President Bush has dominated the “vision thing,” in large part because Kerry has offered him no competition on this front. But the Kerry folks have run a more cynical, and we might argue, tactically smarter campaign. Inside Kerry’s various “plans” are innumerable handouts to important groups in swing states. If this were a congressional race, Kerry would win handily. Of course, it’s not … but the targeting in this contest has become so finite, only a handful of counties in a handful of states will decide who will be the next President of the United States. And you can bet Kerry’s handouts are targeted specifically to industries in these counties.

You would be wise to steal a page or two from this playbook and offer some programs and payoffs to important industries and groups in, say Washington County, Oregon and Montgomery County, Pennsylvania. Cynical? Yes. Necessary? We’re sad to say, but it is.

Enough with the Flip-Flop nonsense

I know, I know. We have become a broken record on this issue. But our resistance to the puerile Flip-Flop charge had grown only stronger since we reviewed some old Bush-Quayle ’92 spots. It’s clear the message that year was, “a president can’t take both sides of an issue. He needs to stand firm,” blah, blah, blah. Sorry, but this didn’t work in 1992 and it won’t work this year. The Bush campaign spent roughly $100 million burning this message in and the good guys were still behind through July. $100,000 from the Swift Boat Vets and Kerry is screaming for a life raft. The president doesn’t have the credibility to push the Vietnam message (and we wouldn’t recommend he push it anyway) but we require no further evidence than this to show the futility of the Flip-Flop silliness.

Seven points ahead is better than seven points behind. But we are a long, long way from Election Day. Don’t stay the course. Turn up the volume.
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I believe this will solve a lot of things. There also seems to be some form of hidden message that suggest they have worked together before on this. We need the news media people and CBS to know about this. This is the same website that gained media attention. Focus on who crushkerry is. Also we have a reason to believe why they are spiking the polls in Bush's favor.

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More proof from this person that there is a link here on this evidence. Another message I found from that site with this person having inside information.
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Posted on 09/14/2004 7:04:35 AM PDT by crushkerry


From crushkerry.com


BREAKING NEWS - CRUSHKERRRY.COM HAS A SCOOP ON PREVIOUSLY UNSEEN KERRY NAVY DOCUMENTS. ACCORDING TO AN INSIDE S
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:35 AM
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More proof from this person that there is a link here on this evidence. Another message I found from that site with this person having inside information.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1215533/posts
Posted on 09/14/2004 7:04:35 AM PDT by crushkerry


From crushkerry.com


BREAKING NEWS - CRUSHKERRRY.COM HAS A SCOOP ON PREVIOUSLY UNSEEN KERRY NAVY DOCUMENTS. ACCORDING TO AN INSIDE SOURCE, THE SWIFT BOAT VETERANS FOR TRUTH OBTAINED A NUMBER OF PREVIOUSLY UNSEEN NAVAL RECORDS YESTERDAY. THESE NEW DOCUMENTS VALIDATE A NUMBER OF THEIR CLAIMS AGAINST JOHN KERRY. NOTE THAT THESE NEW RECORDS ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE AFTER ACTION REPORTS RELEASED YESTERDAY AND POSTED BY DRUDGE. THESE BLOCKBUSTER DOCUMENTS ALL BUT ENSURE A CONTINUED ONSLAUGHT FROM THE SWIFTEES FOR THE DURATION OF THE CAMPAIGN. LOOK FOR THE NEW INFORMATION TO BE DISCLOSED IN UPCOMING SWIFT BOAT ADS


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Do you have a scam to report to CBS?
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Posted on 09/14/2004 8:59:15 PM PDT by rightgrafix


The CBS Evening News Website asks its viewers if they "Know of a scam that needs investigating?", and if so to email them for investigation. Um ... yes. As a matter of fact we do. And we encourage all Kerry Crushers to e-mail them at the address provided and report to them that a network news anchor most certainly tried to scam the country into thinking they had a "smoking gun" memo damaging to the President that is almost certainly a forgery. We really think they're going to regret having this request on their website.
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As you can se there is proof that this was a set up done by having their bloggers be ready. I belive thats a rap! Case closed.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 08:05 PM
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:41 AM
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these are the people liberals of all stripes need to know well -- and know their game plans.
it's fairly self evident that few establishment dem masterminds are that well equipped to deal with these folks.
that's why organizations like moveon are so important.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:41 AM
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3. Bookmarked...
and thanks for the research and info.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:26 PM
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4. Third Part- Information on Patrick Hynes
information from democratic underground on Patrick Hynes
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Indirect link with Move America Forward

Hynes is currently Senior Account Executive and chief copywriter with Marsh Copsey + Scott. This Republican consulting firm was formerly (until 2002) part of Russo Marsh Copsey and Scott, which is now Russo Marsh and Rogers.

http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Russo_Mars...

Russo Marsh and Rogers (RM+R) is a political public relations firm based in Sacramento, California.

In June 2004, RM+R formed a front organization called Move America Forward. Its stated aim was to "to stand up and support the brave men and women of our Armed Forces" <1>. However its chief preoccupation seemed to be a campaign against the showing of Fahrenheit 9/11 (movie 2004) in movie theaters.

RM+R also appears to trade under the name King Media Group. The website of King Media Group shows a nearly identical list of principals to that of RM+R, and it operates from the same postal address.

"Ain't nobody here but us chickens."
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Marsh Copsey + Scott's client list

From The Daily Kos
http://dailykos.com/story/2004/8/20/112017/125

National Political Committees

Republican National Committee
National Republican Senatorial Committee
National Republican Congressional Committee

State Political Committees

California Republican Party
New York Republican Party
Washington State Republican Party
Oregon Republican Party
Florida Republican Party
Maryland Republican Party
Montana Republican Party
New Hampshire Republican Party
Illinois Republican Party
Vermont GOP House Campaign Committee
Connecticut Republican House Campaign Committee
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Hynes also previously with Russo, Marsh, Copsey & Scott

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2519/is_7_22...
September 2001

Sonny Scott has joined the Republican media firm Russo, Marsh & Copsey as partner, and the firm is re-named Russo, Marsh, Copsey & Scott. Scott comes from the National Republican congressional Committee, where he worked on top-targeted races in the 2000 election season. The firm - which has offices in Washington, D.C., Sacramento, CA and Atlanta, GA - has also promoted Patrick Hynes to account executive and Leif Larson to production manager and account executive....
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Interesting Patrick Hynes story from 2002 campaign

It seems that Hynes was serving as press secretary for a Republican candidate in New Hampshire, even though he was working for Russo, Marsh, Copsey & Scott down in Washington, DC. He denied that he was actually working on behalf of the National Republican Congressional Committee, but this columnist is highly skeptical of that claim.


http://www.seacoastonline.com/2002news/08272002/col_cap...

An editorial that appeared in the Portsmouth Herald last week brought up something from the Corner’s "Just How Involved Is the National Party?" file.

The editorial was critical of Republican 1st District Congressional candidate Sean Mahoney of Portsmouth ... The newspaper editorial called Mahoney either extremely dense or verging on insanity for his statements, but instead of getting a call from the candidate or his campaign chairman, the paper was contacted by Mahoney’s press secretary Patrick Hynes.

<snip>

However, the interesting part of all this was that Hynes works for a Republican PR firm - Russo, Marsh, Copsey and Scott - located not in New Hampshire or even Massachusetts, but inside the Beltway in Washington, D.C. Hynes described himself as a Republican operative and former Laconia native, but denied he was working for Mahoney on behalf of the National Republican Congressional Committee, the official arm of the national Republican Party.

The NRCC has said it would remain neutral in the congressional primary race, but would be active in the general election and in putting out information that could be detrimental to Clark even before a Republican nominee was chosen. But that raises the question of why Mahoney would chose a Washington-based PR firm to do his publicity. Just how connected could an inside-the-Beltway firm be to what is going on in New Hampshire?
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:07 PM
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5. Fourth Part- History of Free Republic
Information about free repubic
August 29, 2004

http://www.libertyforum.org/showflat.php?Number=292901220

I almost started a riot today in New York City along the march route of the anti-American left

Towards the end of the march a procession of American flag draped coffins started passing by. The organizers say there were a thousand to represent the not quite number of GIs killed in Iraq. Some of the 'coffins' were draped in black.

AS they passed by, I called out the 'pallbearers' thanking them for reprising their procession of 3000 flag draped coffins that they had done after September 11. I then told them, "Wait, you didn't do that after September 11. In fact, you NEVER protested against Osama bin Laden!" I kept repeating, "You never protested against Osama" as they shrieked in fury at me for daring to challenge them so bluntly


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http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/01/1667650.php
Monday, Jan. 12, 2004 at 5:52 PM

A SHORT CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS: * Last year the Sheriff’s department infiltrated Peace Fresno, allegedly looking for terrorists * At the same time, a Fresno City Council member sent an email saying that if he had a dirty bomb he could eliminate all of the liberals in Fresno * An aide to a City Council member sent an email that suggested sending “over some officers to 'Cap' these guys” (HRC members) * Messages threatening violence against peace activists were posted on the Free Republic web site * A Press Release was sent out warning the community about that threat of violence * The Free Republic filed a million dollar lawsuit against the City of Fresno because of that Press Release * The mayor and conservatives on the City Council attacked the Human Relations Commission (HRC) because of the Press Release * And NOW the city settles that lawsuit by forcing the chair of the HRC to resign and giving the Freepers $60,000 What is wrong with this picture? Who are the real terrorists?

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Copyright © 1998 by Doug Fiedor
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/14/libertytree.htm

Jim Robinson recently told Heads Up that back in April of this year, Marvin Lee, Editor of the Washington Weekly, investigated the genesis of our problem with the major media and he reported that the White House was behind the effort to get us shut down. Lee found that Terry Lenzner, the President's private investigator and henchman, was hired to do the background work on our forum. The results of Lenzner's work was turned over to Debevoise & Plimpton, a law firm frequently used by the President and in turn they formed a consortium of several news media companies to file complaints against Free Republic. As a result, Free Republic received several cease and desist orders from the companies involved, all with very similar language, and all on the same day. Several were received via email within the same hour. There is no doubt that there was coordination between all of these media companies and that the President's henchmen put the whole thing together.

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http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/freepers.htm
July 7, 2001

"They" assign certain of their members to cruise certain forums to keep tabs and maintain order. Part of their assignment simply is to update their already incredible database of politically-incorrect individuals in America. Part of their assignment is to engage and divert whenever discussions become too real and too close to the truth about what is really going on.
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:19 PM
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6. thanks for all the hard work
I'm keeping this as a reference. Kudos for all the digging.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:13 PM
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7. I had noticed this, too. Thanks for the post
Just repeating above post...


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http://www.conspiracypenpal.com/columns/freepers.htm
July 7, 2001

"They" assign certain of their members to cruise certain forums to keep tabs and maintain order. Part of their assignment simply is to update their already incredible database of politically-incorrect individuals in America. Part of their assignment is to engage and divert whenever discussions become too real and too close to the truth about what is really going on.
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Clark4Prez Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:22 PM
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12. I think the GOP is full of chicken fuckers
'bout time someone called them on it.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:16 PM
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8. Awesome job.
I'm bookmarking this thread.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:16 PM
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Must_B_Free Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:16 PM
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10. Fowl play?
You mean like a chicken did it?
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:18 PM
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11. Where does poultry enter into this?
:)
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:24 PM
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13. I'm guessing... chicken hawks?
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LibertyorDeath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:44 PM
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14. Welcome to DU!
This is a keeper

Cheers
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:56 PM
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15. Fifth Part is FR owner Jim Robinson-Right Wing Dirty Trickster
This from democratic underground. Jim Robinson
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http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a378d95ad0998.htm
Posted on 07/15/1999 01:02:53 PDT by Jim Robinson

After the corrupt sob was reelected, I became determined that I was gonna do all I could to see him impeached, so I wrote the forum software and launched the Free Republic forum in February 1997. I was the only poster for a few months, but I kept sending my URL to search engines and trolled the news groups by reposting articles from the forum and eventually I picked up a few readers... and eventually some of the readers got the courage to try posting.

Also about this time, a man named Don Adams (not yet a FReeper) was viciously attacked by paid union thugs at an anti-Clinton protest in Philadelphia. We had been planning a protest in Philadelphia for several days prior and I figured that the Clintonites had gotten wind of that (they lurk on FR daily) and had arranged for the union goons to break up our protest. When I realized that this is what had happened, I got pissed and decided it was time to pay a personal visit to Mr. Clinton and tell him that we're fed-up and we're not gonna take this crap anymore and we're gonna see him impeached!

Please understand that we're happy as clowns and I'm not complaining. We thank the Lord daily for all our blessings. The only reason I'm writing this is because I've been accused by several on this forum and last night in print on Salon, that I'm ripping off the donors.

Well, I'm working double shifts seven days a week for Free Republic and I'm not getting paid a whit. And I sure as hell am not ripping off anyone. If any of you want to donate to keep Free Republic on the air, I'll thank you for that and we will appreciate it very much, but I'm not gonna beg anyone for it. If we can not fund Free Republic, she goes under and that's that. Now if anyone else ever accuses me again of being a crook, just beware. I'm gonna hunt you down and beat you senseless with my cane.
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http://www.freerepublicsucks.s5.com/
Copyright FRS 2003

DISCREDITED Internet forum Free Republic has been sending spies over to rival websites. Paranoid insiders on the mediocre message board have a designated moderator whose brief is to log the goings-on at other sites and report back to his superiors. It is thought hundreds of posters have been banned after the spy passed on valuable information to FR owner Jim Robinson.

Through our spy we have been made aware of planned newbie attacks," admits one of FR's admin moderators. "Yes, we are the recipient of planned anti conservative attacks. Thanks to our spy, we have a heads up." The information comes to light in top secret internal threads obtained by FRS investigators. Click HERE for the full story
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Free Republic: Founded Free Republic, in the fall of 1996. Developed and installed the forum software and opened the forum to the general public in February, 1997. The forum started small, just a dozen or so posters, but steadily grew until we had several hundred posters by the end of 1997 and outgrew our server. We leased a new server and continued growing. During 1998, we were receiving over a hundred thousand hits per day and over five thousand posts per day were being made by several thousand posters.We were being read by all of the major media and by many on Capitol Hill.
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 02:26 PM
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16. Sixth Part -Flow Charts from another member of Democratic underground
Another member has linked flow charts together. These graphical charts show a vast connection of the media that reported on CBS Memos. They also link together the names of people that have been mentioned and their connections.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=900099#901988
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AnIndependentTexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:12 PM
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17. Last Part:Evidence to support documents are real
This link was posted on democratic underground.

http://imrl.usu.edu/bush_memo_study/index.htm

. The specific font used is from a typewriter family in common use since 1905 and a typewriter capable of producing the spacing has been available since 1944.
2. The characters “e,” “t,” “s,” and “a” show indications of physical damage and/or wear consistent with a well used typewriter.
3. The characters that are seldom used show no signs of damage or wear.
4. The quality of individual characters is inconsistent throughout the memos beyond expectations from photocopying and/or digitizing but quality is consistent with worn platen and variations in paper quality.
5. Overlapping characters occasionally indicate paper deformation consistent with hammered impressions.
6. Critical indicators of digital production or cut and paste production are missing.

Implications are that there is nothing in this evidence that would indicate the memos are inauthentic. Furthermore, from the point of view of the physical evidence in the documents (excluding any rhetorical evidence or external evidence, which is not examined in this study) no amount of additional research on the part of CBS would have lead them to exclude the documents from their 60 Minutes report.

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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 05:50 PM
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18. I pulled this quote:
because it sounds like the Dems are taking Blackwell's advice too.

"Blackwell Trained Karl Rove. Morton Blackwell, a former national executive director of the College Republicans, trained a teen-aged Karl Rove as a field organizer, and taught him "people in politics should pay less attention to consultants, television advertising, polls, and 'message,' and more attention to the old-fashioned side of the business: registering voters, organizing volunteers, making face-to-face contact during the last days of a campaign, and getting people to the polls on Election Day."

This is just what we are doing on the ground in Wisconsin. We are indeed in the "face to face" phase right now. I was helping to write letters to women on behalf of Kerry just today. Canvas, canvas, canvas.

Shhh. Don't tell the Republicans.
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