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gohawks Donating Member (55 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:20 AM
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Don't forget : *.. "do you have blacks too?" to Brazil President
Stuff you probably did not see in the US media...

'Do You Have Blacks, Too?' - Bush Asks Brazil President - 5/29/2002

It is said, that, before September 11, George W. Bush thought the Taliban were a Bavarian brass band. Now, thanks to his comprehensive knowledge, the most powerful man in the world has gotten into hot water again. This is a translation of the article in 5-19-02 issue of Der Spiegel...

WASHINGTON - It was Condoleezza Rice, national security advisor, who helped her boss out of the embarassing situation. During a conversation between the two presidents, George W. Bush, 55, (USA) and Fernando Henrique Cardoso, 71, (Brazil), Bush bewildered his colleague with the question "Do you have blacks, too?"

Rice, 47, noticing how astonished the Brazilian was, saved the day by telling Bush "Mr. President, Brazil probably has more blacks than the USA. Some say it's the country with the most blacks outside Africa."

Later, Brazilian president Cardoso said, regarding Latin America, Bush was still in his "learning phase."


Original article in Der Spiegel:

http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/0,1518,196865,00.html
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clonebot Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:25 AM
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1. i only have one thing to say
BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHA. how someone could piss away a yale education blows my mind. i believe brazil even continued the practice of slavery for years after the united states outlawed it here.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:43 AM
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4. "...how someone could piss away a yale education blows my mind"
Maybe it was the blow that caused him to piss away the education.

Just a thought.

But you're right; it does boggle the mind of intelligent people!
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Zynx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:51 AM
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7. Yeah. Brazil had slavery until 1888 or so.
It was one of the last, if not THE last, western country to abolish it.

Brazil is nearly 50% black or mixed ethnicity. The fact that Bush didn't know that is shocking.

It is even more shocking that he would ask that question in the first place, and particularly in that manner.
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:30 AM
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2. I love this story, but...
It's been (mostly) debunked.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/brazil.htm

:(
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SoCalDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 06:36 AM
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3. Hardly
Snopes hardly debunked it.

They only had one source so they decided it was undetermined. Their big contention was that Bush maybe said "Do you have Blacks, also" instead of "Do you have Blacks, too".

That's a pretty earth shattering difference there!
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Nimrod Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:24 AM
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6. * gives us
Plenty of ammunition that's verifiable. This is a good story for the campfire, but true or false that's about it. Unfortunately.
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The Zanti Regent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:21 AM
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5. Did he have a lover's quarrel with Condy?
just guessing...
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