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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:03 PM
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A Democratic US Senate candidate has died in each of the last 2 elections
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 03:11 PM by Gman
Mel Carnahan died in 2000, and Senator Paul Wellstone died in 2002. The right wing has been widely suspected of murder in each of these, including John Ashcroft in Carnahan's death.

Its now getting close to election day 2004. Have you thought about just who the right wing might decide to off his year? Personally, I am concerned for Tom Daschle. But I'm more concerned for Kerry as the presidential race is too close for the right wing's comfort.

Don't forget the right wing tried to off several Democratic Senators with Anthrax in 2001. So there is a history here.

Don't forget, these people stole an election for the president of the United States in 2000. They overthrew the government of the United States in 2000. They are capable of literally anything up to and well beyond murder. Don't forget who and what we're dealing with here.
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:05 PM
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1. Now you are really scaring me.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:07 PM
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2. I've always thought that.
The right-wing will truly stop at nothing. I would not put any horrific act past them. I also worry about Barack Obama, frankly. He's really bringing people together AND he's black, two BIG no-nos in the right-wing world.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:09 PM
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3. Wa-ter-gate.
Repeat that three times, cause that's what this is like. CREEP would have done ANYTHING to re-elect Nixon in '72, and now the Bush cabal is using any means necessary to keep his idiot lying ass in the WH.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:09 PM
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4. God help me, I am NOT
a conspiracy theorist, but you can add Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada to your prayer list. I know I have, because he's been widely considered the best bet to be the new minority leader.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:21 PM
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6. I love Reid.
I voted for him when I was living in Las Vegas. He is one of the few good men in the Senate today. I'm more nervous for Kerry, to be honest. If he starts pulling ahead of Bush, I wouldn't put it past the craven revolutionaries with CIA ties to try and arrange an early demise for him like they did with MLK and the Kennedy's. Imagine what would have happened if Nixon had gone unchecked. That is what is happening now, except the Bushistas are much, MUCH worse than Nixon ever was.

The Bush cabal probably know what many of us are afraid to believe still: If a fair election is held in November, Kerry will win. They know how many new registered voters there've been in the past couple of years. They know that the polls aren't hitting the cell phone users and those who forward their LAN line to their cells, many of whom are in a demographic that strongly favors Kerry. They know the Arab population has largely shifted towards ABB. They know they lost the popular vote by a good number and had to steale the electoral vote in the last election.

Maybe I'm finally going off the deep end, but after seeing sh*t I never thought would happen in this country, it's getting harder and harder to dismiss what used to be deemed the unthinkable.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:12 PM
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5. The anthrax guy targeted Democrats because they care about the people
Republicans simply don't give a shit about protecting America.


And a hole in your reasoning is that Bill Frist was also targeted.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:23 PM
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8. Frist targeted?
when, where and how? I don't remember this.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:32 PM
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17. minute amount of ricin was found amongst paper dust
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 03:38 PM by peekaloo
near a letter opening machine in his office(s). Coincidentally Frist's office workers computer(s) were the focus of an investigation involving e-mails they obtained from Democratic Senators. Hmmmmm.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A20232-2004Feb6?.html

http://p2pnet.net/index.php?page=reply&story=905
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:41 PM
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19. I remember that now
it appeared to be a way to take the focus off the fact that there were serious assasination attempts against Democrats only.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:43 PM
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20. I do remember that.
Seemed phony to me.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:09 PM
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27. I thought that was Orrin Hatch's office workers?
Are you talking about the emails that were about the Democrat's strategy?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:28 PM
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13. I don't think Frist ever got an Anthrax letter
why do you think he did?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:46 PM
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21. my mistake, it was ricin
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DemFromMem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:59 PM
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24. He did.
I'm from his state and it wsa big news here at the time. Here's a link:

http://www.anthraxinvestigation.com/wp-40203.html
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:58 PM
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28. that story doesn't really confirm he got anthrax
it sounds like its speculating that he may have received anthrax. I think that was the initial belief. I think it later turned out to be ricin.
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:29 PM
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15. Ha!
Bill Frist eats anthrax for breakfast. They had to target him in order to throw off the trail. You see, he's spent these last few years in his lab experimenting on dead cats and building up an immunity to the stuff. (I probably should say that I'm kidding.)
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Justice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:10 PM
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30. Bill Frist eats anthrax for breakfast
Ha! Good one.
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:53 PM
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23. The guy wanted to draw attention to the danger of Anthrax
and Democrats care about America so the logical thing to do is attack some liberal Senators so they will take action to protect the American people from it.


Frist found Ricin in his office while under investigation for stealing confidential Democratic emails or something. So he may have planted it.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:23 PM
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7. Barack Obama better stay out of small aircraft.

That loss would demoralize a lot, a lot of people.

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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:25 PM
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10. Yeah, that worries me the most.
Obama reminds me of a modern-day Robert Kennedy in his ideals and the way he inspires people. I know the neocons must be terrified of him.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:27 PM
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11. Yeah, I can hear the cons saying that
Obama's funeral was a "political rally."

These people make me sick.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:15 PM
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32. When I started reading this thread, my first thought was Obama.
I can't even go there.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:24 PM
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9. I'm not going to be guessing.
I don't want to put a jinx on any of these guys.

I am worried though. The right-wing in this country has been playing this game since the '60s. I mean, look at RFK. Had he never been shot, we would have probably been spared Nixon.
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:39 PM
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18. Simple political assassinations may be among the lessor of
their horrible atrocities. (I certainly don't know this for fact. It's just a speculation on my part.)
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:59 PM
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25. RFK was killed by a disgruntled Palestinian
the sketchiest assassination was of JFK...right after he declared war on the CIA...interesting.

The Carnahan and Wellstone deaths were also sketchy but not enough people call them assassinations.
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Borgnine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:02 PM
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29. There are lots of sketchy things about RKF's assassination.
I don't doubt Sirhan Sirhan killed him, but if you want to happily don the tin-foil hat like I have, there are lots of weird things you'll find about his motives and state of mind.

I wouldn't give credence to any of it before selection 2000, but now I realize that these guys literally are all conspiracy theories rolled into one. Hell, I'm betting some of them even got off the ship from Roswell.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:11 PM
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31. RFK was killed by a right wing security guard
Sirhan was standing about 6 feet in front of Bobby the whole time, yet the fatal shot was fired into the back of his head, just below his right ear, at point blank range, powder burns included. It is physically impossible for Sirhan Sirhan to have fired that shot.

Sirhan was a zombie under MK Ultra mind control courtesy of Poppy Bush and his friends at the CIA.
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:28 PM
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12. independent429
Frist was targeted? You must have dreamed that it didn't happen.

I've been trying to figure out who would be next for sometime now.
Is Chaffee up for election?
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IronLionZion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:49 PM
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22. to reply to a post, click reply on the post
instead of to the thread.

and it was my mistake, Frist was targeted by ricin
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:29 PM
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14. and another thing
the two dem senators that were targeted with the anthrax were the two who could have derailed the patriot act.
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Julien Sorel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 03:30 PM
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16. You are now entering....
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:02 PM
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26. I also worry about Kerry
because if he moves ahead in the polls...the repukes will be desperate and likely to do anything. I worry about Barak Obama too. He's a shoe-in at this point and I PRAY he's careful. I hope he avoids small airplanes. :scared:

I agree that the repules are responsible for all of the deaths you posted. Too convenient...IMCPO
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:00 PM
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33. another thing is both were the nastiest and most competitive races
during those election years also. that would point to daschle being a likely victim this time around if it happens again.
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