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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:13 PM
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Will Bush catch Bin Laden before the election?
It is almost the month of October Surprise. What will happen now?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:16 PM
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1. bin Laden has probably
already been captured. They're just waiting for the right time-like when news from Iraq turns really bad.
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:17 PM
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2. i actually dont think so
i believe the only reason we haven't caught him so far is because of *'s ties to the saudi's and the bin laden family. i'm sure he'll have some tasty treat for us tho
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FlavaKreemSnak Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:21 PM
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3. THK has said she would not be surprised

I can't find the link but she said this in a speech. I would not put it passed them to have him somewhere in a holding cell or even to bring out somebody who looks like him.
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joshdawg Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:22 PM
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4. bush* doesn't care if bin Laden is caught or not.
His main priority was Iraq. bin Laden was a side-show. He doesn't care that OBL perpetrated the murder of 3,000 Americans. He was after Iraq and Hussein from the get-go.
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coloradodem2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:24 PM
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5. Yeah, but I think getting Bin Laden would strengthen his hand.
n/t
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joshdawg Donating Member (335 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:28 PM
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6. Probably right, but
it would not make any difference to the idiot in the W.H.
I really believe that bush* attacked Iraq to help his re-election chances. You know, Americans don't vote a president out in war time. I'm sure that's been batted around a bit.
bush's* plans were upset when his buddy, OBL, did what he did.
Just an opinion.
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:29 PM
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7. Nope. Actually, I don't think we'll ever find him.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:35 PM
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8. Nope
I agree with Terrya. He'll never be "found".
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:38 PM
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9. If they produce his body in October,
somebody better check it for freezer burn.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:39 PM
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10. I'm really beginning to think not.
First of all it would look WAY too convenient to just pull him out of a hat now. Dems have done this very well: we have made it a well-established fact that if OBL were to be "caught" in Sept or Oct of 2004, it'd be suspicious on the part of the bush administration to the point of most non-bush die-hards not really believing it.

SO, if they really did have him and were just waiting, they would have brought him out, I think, in June or so. That way they could boast about it for a good long while and get their numbers up.

I really don't think they have him. Either that, or they are stupid enough to wait to reveal him until right before the election. To which most people I know, even repubs, would have a good eye-rolling session over.
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HEIL PRESIDENT GOD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:47 PM
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12. You're right about that
It would be a pretty see-through ploy, but...

I don't think the American army CAN catch Bin Laden, and I don't think the Pakistanis want to. We have zero capabilities on the ground in that terrain and not a damned active-duty horse left in the whole army. We will not fly gunships because of all the US-made stingers (from the mujahedeen days!) unaccounted for in the region. Our humvees are too wide for the roads and the region is too big to search on foot.

Not all Pakistanis are OBL fans--but the hunt being on doesn't seem to be hurting their relations with India and the US, either! Once he's caught, no more honeymoon.... And they are a muslim country with WMD. The manhunt seems to be protecting them right now.
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elperromagico Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:42 PM
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11. It seems to me that, if they had Bin Laden already,
or if they were on the verge of catching him, they would have played it up at the RNC. Bin Laden was hardly mentioned at the RNC.

Also, I cannot see Bin Laden's people just sitting idly by if they knew that Bin Laden were in custody. That assumes, of course, that the Bush people haven't struck some sort of deal. I'm assuming for now that that has not happened.

Could they roll out a "reconstructed" corpse and claim that it's Bin Laden? Of course. I don't put much past them. But I just think they would be "playing up" Osama if that were the October Surprise. Bush hasn't mentioned Bin Laden in ages.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:50 PM
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13. Actually I don't think OBL's name was mentioned even ONCE at the
convention!

Isn't that crazy? The guy supposedly behind the worst attacks on American soil and not only is he not caught, but he's not even MENTIONED anymore.

Wow.
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Bush was AWOL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 04:54 PM
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14. Bingo! If they had him, or thought they could get him, they'd
be talking about him. Right wingers on the radio, in the papers, on tv and in Washington don't seem to have much to say about Bin Laden.
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:12 PM
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16. I used to think that this would happen, but now I don't
The Bushistas have let OBL have a free pass. If the Repugs get OBL and destroy Al-Qaedia then it makes it harder to justify Iraq and other future military adventures.

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 05:15 PM
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17. If he does, it'll be ABOUT DAMN TIME.
Cripes, what have you been doing the past three years, Dubya??

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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:27 PM
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18. That man can't find his ass with two hands,
no way can he find OBL in hostile terrain. Pure speculation of course.
I have to say though I appreciated Musharrafs' answers to Paula Zahn indicating that the war in Iraq has made the world more dangerous, he looked like he was lying when she asked about catching OBL. He blinked twice immediately....looked like a lie to me.
Anyway....
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