DU BRAINSTORM: Ideas to spread the "Two-Faced" message.

[Skinner]

PLEASE READ THIS ENTIRE MESSAGE BEFORE YOU RESPOND.

I've been talking to the other admins about this "Two-Faced" message, and we think this could be a great opportunity for the members of Democratic Underground to make a difference in the election. I don't know exactly what the DNC is hoping to do, but it looks like they want to spread this message in a viral, guerrilla-marketing, grassroots kinda way.

And we've got lots and lots of people who can help make it a reality.

With this in mind, the DU admins have decided that we're going to make this a priority, and we're going to use all of the grassroots power we have to try to spread this message.

We have a few ideas of our own, but we thought this effort would likely be more effective if we took advantage of all of the great minds we have in this community.

So... What can we do to spread this message?

We've got a cool, attention-grabbing graphic. We've got a very clear and concise message. We have lots and lots of people. We can do this online and offline. We can do web, email, flyers, stickers, clothing, you name it. The possibilities are literally endless.

So, what are your ideas? Brainstorm. Post in this thread. Start other threads to discuss it. Go nuts. This effort can be bottom-up and top-down. Organized and unorganized. Orderly and chaotic.

What are your ideas?

And, if you're already tired of talking and want to start taking action on your own, here are some graphics you can use. Post them on the web. Print them on flyers and plaster your hometown in the middle of the night. Copy them into email and blast them to all your friends. Tattoo it on your forehead. Whatever. It's up to you.

TO BE CLEAR: The purpose of this thread is to discuss ways to spread the message that Bush is Two Faced. The purpose of this thread is NOT to discuss new or different messages that you prefer. If you do not wish to help us in our efforts to spread the message, or if you think this whole thing is stupid, please do not post in this thread. In order to help focus the discussion, I am instructing the moderators to delete off-topic posts. Thank you for your understanding.



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[kerryin2004]

1. Late night infomercial :) n/t

[roseBudd]

5. th essense of guerilla marketing is to use unconventional means of

distribution

[Kierkegaard]

18. Television can still be unconventional.

A 5 second tv ad. No audio. Nothing but the two-faced image still. I can see this being every bit as effective as the home page 'hijack.' Also, the production costs and the tv time itself would probably be relatively cheap.

The trick would be getting local media to allow it.

[Guaranteed]

2. Just got back from my covert operation in Bloomington, IL

We copied off 100 of those flyers, and put out 20 of them so far tonight. I plan to do more tonight.

Lemme tell you- I put those suckers in some VERY high-profile, VERY hard-to-get-at places. Very busy streets, duct-taped to lampposts where one would have to walk quite a ways, and across a ditch to get to them to take them down, and on the side of a low-overpass for a VERY busy street on the Illinois State Campus- those seemed to be too good of placement to NOT be vandalism. I was paranoid, watching for cops the whole time.

It was fun- very covert, and it felt like I was really DOING something to help the campaign.

Some advice for others wanting to do this- go the extra mile. Put these flyers in places where lots of people will SEE them, but not many will be able or willing to take the time to GET to them. Make them jump across that ditch or scoot past the rabid dog or hang over a ledge. And place them so that when they see them, they have no choice but to drive on past and just think about it, or else have to take a full five-or-ten-minute detour. Put in the time and plan carefully.

By the way, here's a link to another graphic with "TWO-FACED" at the bottom if that's more of your thing:

http://somnamblst.tripod.com/2faced.pdf

Have fun! And remember to put in the extra time that others won't! Don't make it easy for them to tear down. I.E. try to stay away from sidewalks, intersections where someone might just jump out of their car and tear it down....think very carefully.

[henslee]

54. Awesome. Thanks! Will get on it.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

3. .....

http://somnamblst.tripod.com

Print it off. Make tons of copies. Put everywhere and anywhere. You guys in swing states, we need this especially badly there.

Tuck them in magazines anywhere there is a waiting room. Or in new magazines no one has purchased yet (be careful though). Put them in public restrooms. Staple to telephone poles. Put on kiosks or community message boards. Put up in apartment complex laundry rooms and mail rooms. Public laundromats. Leave a few everywhere you frigging go.

Think high-visibility and several of us need to contact the freeway blogger about this.

[Sheila Samples]

115. Another Good Place...

...is to stick them inside the "voter's guides" that the Republicans are sending to churches throughout America. I managed to get one via snail mail from a Repub friend and retyped it. Says it's from "Citizen Leader Coalition," whatever the heck that is. Doesn't matter, because Repubs love anything with Coalition stuck on it. Note the code words/phrasing in the guide, e.g., citing the guide is necessary because of the war on Christianity, throwing up the red flags of Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton, etc.


2004 Election Voter Guide Concerning Key Moral Issues and the War on Christianity.

ISSUES

Gay Marriage
Bush Opposed
Kerry Favors

Partial Birth Abortion
Bush Opposed
Kerry Favors

Restoring voluntary prayer in the public schools
Bush Favors
Kerry Opposed

Assault on Mel Gibson for making film about Christ
Bush Supports Gibson.
Kerry participated in Left's assault on Gibson, suggesting possible anti-Semitism even though Kerry had not seen film.

Assault on Boy Scouts for belief in god and not allowing homosexual Scout leaders
Bush supports Boy Scouts' stand
Kerry opposes Boy Scouts' stand

Asking for God's blessing on America
Bush often asks God to bless America in his speeches.
Kerry attacks Bush for mentioning God so often.

Judges
Bush says, "We need common-sense judges who believe our rights are derived from God."
Kerry insists on judges who support the ACLU's radical anti-Christian, anti-God, anti-family agenda. Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, leads the Left's effort in the Senate to block President Bush's federal judge appointments.

Overall Record
President Bush does not vote on issues before Congress but, based on his publicly stated positions, would receive an 85% conservative rating from the AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION if he did.

The highly respected, politically-neutral National Journal rates Kerry the most liberal U.S. Senator in 2003 -- more liberal than Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton.
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Note: Then, a handwritten plea is made to churches -- "With help from you and many others, we aim to distribute 25,000,000 of these Voter Guides in churches and mailboxes to Christian voters across America."

[henslee]

4. BE AFRAID ........sugg. text to be placed beneath "two face".......

and here's why I think its appropriate...
1st, it mocks *, commenting on the thinly veiled subtext at the core of his campaign. It's as if its a pro-bush poster, telling voters to live in fear.

2nd, it communicates on a 2nd level, telling voters to bve afraid of this man.

BE AFRAID



I think BE AFRAID is simple, direct and pretty much says it. Not too wordy, very graphic.

[roseBudd]

6. The message IS two-faced

two-faced is an insult

[henslee]

49. Yeah, I get it, OUR version of flip flop. And yes , the graphic

alone is representationlly "two faced" and extremely dnyamic a la the famous "Andre the Giant" guerilla posters but... it feels like its missing something. First off, semantically, I don't think Bush is two-faced. He is one-faced, unabashed liar. I think McCain is a good example of two-faced-ness.

Now this is just one person's opinion but I think that the graphic, stand alone without text is fine... but it is a little obtuse and artsy and seems like it would be connecting to that person who already is anti-bush. This is a fine effect not one that seems to be hitting it out of the park.

And not to be picky but while the graphic with the words "two-faced" below it is alright, it seems flawed in its redundancy -- the "two-faced" notion is already represented by the graphic. To basically restate it via text does not thrill me.

That is why, I think the way to go is appropriate, complimentary text below the graphic -- not neccessarily "BE AFRAID" but something.
Much like those Robbie Canal (or whatever his name is) guerilla posters that were famous in L.A. They were those groteque black and white paintings of politicians, e.g., Reagan and Bush, with bold text beneath them. Robbie created quite a stir with those.

Having shared the above, I will now be a good DU footsoldier download the graphics and pass them along via email and hardcopy.

Thanks to the artists and Skinner for getting this thing going.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

7. I like that

but we have to keep it simple: TWO-FACED. Very simple, very short, very to the point.

[Search Party]

8. IDEAS

church pews
self-serve pumps
public restrooms/dressing rooms
leave them on the glass in copiers at p.o./kinkos/library...
put them in postage paid return junk mail envelopes
everywhere in bookstores
cd bins
windshields
grocery carts
in the menu at restaurants
magazine racks
newspaper racks
take out ad in newspaper
leave in the microwaves at conventient stores

stencils?????

[Guaranteed]

10. NICE nt

[roseBudd]

21. dictionary definition

two-faced (tfst)
adj.
Having two faces or surfaces.
Hypocritical or double-dealing; deceitful.

[LiberalEsto]

31. Make stickers with this dictionary definition..

and slap them beneath the two-face image.

[roseBudd]

42. no need people instinctively understand what TWO-FACED is

[City Lights]

16. "put them in postage paid return junk mail envelopes"

I love this idea. ;-)

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

25. Tucked in right-wing books at the bookstore

such as Ann Coulter books, O'Lielly books, etc.

Any anti-Clinton book, tuck it in there, too.

[Search Party]

26. movie theater seats / eom

[blondeatlast]

44. Better idea than my first--library patrons LOVE bookmarks...

B/W ribbons in the RW Dewey 32-324s and LoC subclass "J" will be MUCHLY appreciated!

Edited to protect my own sorry butt!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

48. EH?

I know what you are trying to say, but cannot think of the author you are trying to reference....

[blondeatlast]

52. I can't say more--I work at a taxpayer funded facility in which

information can be obtained...

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

32. In the menu at restaurants is fantastic!!!

Simply fold in half, graphic side out, tuck in menu and hand to server when they pick them back up. Kinda requires you to know what you are ordering without having to look at the menu but anyone can do that!

[liveoaktx]

35. Laundry rooms in apartments

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

45. Mail rooms at apartments

public laundromats.

[lefty_WOHM]

43. I have to take issue w/ the church pew idea

There have been stories about watch dog groups going after fundie churches who are walking the line re. campaigning from the pulpit. Having these show up in your church could get your church in trouble, partic. wrt their tax status.

[freeplessinseattle]

113. adult "bookstores"

seriously, this is a segment that has been overlooked-I put some of the draft flyers in mags at Castle Adult store, hee-hee, why the heck not? I don't get patrons who are for Bush, do they think Ashcroft is their ally?

[stellanoir]

9. "flip flopping" is changing one's opinion in the face

of ever changing circumstances.

"Duplicity" is stating agendas based on complete and utter falsehoods and maintaining them regardless of circumstance*.

Which is worse. . .?

*see Healthy Forests, Clear Skies, No Child Left Behind, & Help America Vote for references of totally disingenuous nomenclature versus actualization .

Oh, and IWR to "maintain the peace" would certainly qualify as well.

[Guaranteed]

11. Skinner-

Can you pin this to the top of the forum page?

[radfringe]

12. caption suggestion

Two faces - two lips
which one do you believe?

[NV Whino]

13. Quantity is the key

And by all means, let's get to the Freeway Blogger.

[Guaranteed]

23. YES. nt

[pinto]

37. kick. n/t

[proud patriot]

68. The freeway blogger is an excellent idea

He'll help :D

[tuvor]

14. Post the link on appropriate Yahoo message boards

but use a more innocuous-sounding url if possible.

[Kierkegaard]

24. I can post a couple of the images on my server space.

Let me grab a couple and I'll be back with an 'innocuous' URL for yuse guys.

[Kierkegaard]

53. Image links for 'covert' use

For those who wish to post two-faced to 'sensitive' areas of the web and don't want it pointing back at DU (and to share the bandwidth load):


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Ok, so it's not so covert. Mods, delete when deemed necessary.

[NMDemDist2]

85. i can't get the link or the graphic to load on another forum n/t

[Chichiri]

15. Two Questions

First, was it the administrators who were responsible for everyone's avatar becoming Two Faced a few days ago? I thought it was a bug or a hacker, but was it you guys messing around? ;)

And second, is the idea to spread JUST the graphic, to let it speak for itself? I think that would be incredibly powerful. You get on the bus, there's a picture of Two Faced Bush lying on the seat. You get off the bus, it's taped to a lamppost. You go to work, someone left it in the copy machine and next to the fridge in the break room.

[Skinner]

97. Yes, the administrators were responsible.

We were trying to get everyone's attention. I think it worked pretty well. ;-)

[stevedeshazer]

114. I love you guys

It's working.

Ah, I'm working on a quiet Sunday with a copy machine at my disposal.

Nice.

[ClassWarrior]

176. Thanks for the message discipline, btw, Skinner.

:yourock:

23.

[John_H]

138. I'm intrigued, but what am I missing?

Sorry if this was answered elsewhere in this or the other long thread--I'm not clear from the OP whether the idea is to get the pic seen or attach "concepts" to the pic or both?

Usually I read a number of posts before i post in a long thread, but just ducking in and out lately. If someone has a minute to respond to this post, I'd owe you one.

[NMDemDist2]

149. just get it out everywhere, but I like the one that has the text

"Two Faced" below the pic here http://somnamblst.tripod.com/2faced.pdf

[camero]

17. Lease some billboards

preferably along major highways around the country. Local Dem organizations can do this as well as individuals. The picture speaks for itself.

[Catherine Vincent]

111. That's what I said earlier.

Put the graphic on Billboards.

[elsiesummers]

19. Write it up/link it in blogs or other forums.n/t

provide a link in posts even at non-politics forums - with no explanation.

[George_S]

172. Excellent idea

Make people ask what it is and what it means.

Then after it is well known, change it to a non-ranting link to what Bush says and what it really means. The link could be to random explanations of his various quotes and ideas.

[Guaranteed]

20. If we do this right, it's gonna be huge.

It'll spread so fast. When people begin to see it in so many different places they'll take it upon themselves to make copies of their own.

Let's get ACTIVE, folks! I'm not even in a swing state (IL), and I'm doing it!

[radfringe]

22. any way to get these

printed on postage stamp size labels? stick them on your snail-mail, or anywhere else where they will be visible

[roseBudd]

27. Make sure you carry your stack of TWO-FACED flyers everywhere

you go, as inspiration will hit you whe you least expect it.

You will also want tape and a staple gun

[liveoaktx]

33. You can print out your own-get some label paper from the store

they also sell round stickers, etc, at office supply places, Avery

[wildeyed]

103. I like the avery label idea, I will get some tomorrow.

Easy to carry around, just slap them on where ever.

Someone mentioned stencil, which is brilliant.

I also added as the sig line on my email including link.

If someone made some bumper sticker quality, I would purchase a stack and pass them out to my friends for their cars.

[trogdor]

How about address labels?

You send out about a dozen bills a month, plus miscellaneous mail, right? Make up a bunch of address labels with the two-face as the avatar at the left. The people who process your VISA bill aren't die-hard Repigs; they're working stiffs like you and me.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

28. Guys

I've been experimenting with something.....if you are putting the flyers where you have to fold them in half (such as CD bins, books (but leave a bit sticking out so it will be seen), etc, then fold them in half with the graphic side OUT and the top half (without two-faced) showing. I think print makes someone immediately think it is an ad, but I folded one in half and only looked at the top half and it is weird looking. You can tell it is a graphic of some kind but you want to immediately unfold it to see what picture it makes.

I think that would grab more attention in situations where you have to fold them.

The postage paid envelopes is a GREAT idea! Gonna start using those instead of recycling them!!!

[liveoaktx]

29. If you have MS Publisher, print it out poster size and glue to poster

board, use as your own roadside statement

[TwentyFive]

30. What about cars? Taping it onto the inside rear window?

I'm taping mine onto the inside rear or side window. However, I've heard that cops can pull you over for having a blocked rear window.

I knew somebody who actually got a ticket because they had a political sticker on their window, and the cop apparently didn't like the candidate.

Anybody have any advice about this? I live in San Francisco, and here the cops would never pull me over for this.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

36. Eh

they aren't too strict on it here in TX, as far as the window goes. I don't know about elsewhere.

[MaggieSwanson]

75. Tape it to the side windows!

Loving this one. Just printed off 50 and can't wait to spread them around.

[antigone382]

141. You know those big American flag decals?

There were tons of them after 9/11, plastered on people's rear windows. They look opaque from outside the back window, but are transparent from the inside. As far as I know, they're legal, or else people couldn't sell them.

Does anybody know what would be involved in creating those, and how much it would cost?

[blondeatlast]

34. Make sure this thread is seen at CUties and FREEPdom.

But of course, no one hangs out there, do they?

[NMDemDist2]

86. i sure never do, and BTW BaL, we visited 41 houses today and got

13 VBM cards done

woohoo :bounce:

[blondeatlast]

118. I'm there tomorrow, I SWEAR!

Way to go!

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

38. TAKE them with you everywhere!!!!!

My purse has enough extra room but you guys could just tuck them in a manilla folder or something if you don't carry a portfolio or backpack of any kind.

You never know when you'll get an opportunity to leave some.

[senseandsensibility]

39. Insert them into every bill you pay by snail mail

put them in dressing rooms at clothes stores, canvas your neighborhood and put them under doormats, print on T-shirts and wear (I think my hubby's Kerry shirts get more attention than anything we've done), insert into any free periodicals (such as real-estate magazines),leave in airports, or other transportation terminals.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

41. Those are some I hadn't thought of

the doormat thing I would do but not in my own neighborhood, simply because I am known as the HUGE Dem on the street. There are other Dems, but I'd be the first person they'd suspect.

[Chichiri]

40. Are there PDFs with many Bush faces on one page?

We can print a bunch out, cut them into the little squares, and we'd have hundreds if not thousands to spread all around town.

[roseBudd]

47. If you print smaller than letter sized you have to cut them or pay

Kinkos to cut.

I prefer not cutting

[Zookeeper]

129. Doesn't Kinkos have large paper cutters?

I copy most of this stuff at Office Depot and they have staplers and paper cutters available. I think they are a bit cheaper than Kinkos also.

[Forge]

46. Help for the G-Bomb

I posted it on my website. Linking here to help out the g-bomb: Two Faced

[roseBudd]

50. Do not put them in mail boxs, it is illegal

but you can slip them under doors, leave them on front porchs

[NMDemDist2]

63. it's a bit large? and how does one google bomb? n/t

[MaggieSwanson]

76. Yes, how DOES one Google bomb? n/t

[Walt Starr]

106. Cut and past this into your signature line to Google Bomb it!

[link:www.twofacesofbush.com/|Two Faced]

[George_S]

173. Walt

How does that work?

[blondeatlast]

51. B/W ribbons, too--NOT the looped AIDS, breast cancer, bring them

home types.

On your antennas, around a wrist (preferably your own), streetlights, everywhere you can think of.

[juajen]

55. How about library books

and book exchange books; also couldn't stamps be made to stamp bills you pay and letters you write; also could stamp craft paper and wrap presents with this paper, using black ribbon for the bows, of course. Several different sizes of stamps would be useful, too. Could stamp all size envelopes you mail. They can't refuse to deliver because of this, can they?

Also, wouldn't Cheney's face be great too? He's actually more scarey than Bush sometimes. Well, I guess they're about equal. How about playing cards, with Bush on one set and Cheney on the other?

Using the graphic as a TV ad would be great. Just the face, no commentary. Also could be used on signs for national and local political rallies. I could see a lot of these signs at universities.

Mugs, baseball caps, t-shirts, bandanas, etc. Big moneymaker and will disseminate widely. Oh, and armbands that can be worn anywhere. Will sorta look like mourning bands, but will be wide enough for the image to show. These could be worn around the head as well as arm. Could also be tied around bookbags, handbags, etc.

Also, decals, bumperstickers, etc. I like the "Be Afraid" message, but think the face by itself is very effective.

OMG, would be perfect if masks could be made in time for Halloween. What a fantastic statement that would make.

Well, I think I'm temporarily out of ideas. Will keep thinking.

[blondeatlast]

57. Alternative to library books in post #44.

Please, please don't put them in library books--where will THAT end?

Signed, your friendly DU library assistant...

[NMDemDist2]

65. Halloween Masks?? great idea! n/t

[NMDemDist2]

56. use full sheet labels instead of paper, tape or staples

http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536892124&prodBlockOID=537113891

these full sheet labels print out well and make it very difficult to remove from bus kiosks, lamp posts, election signs

just a thought.....

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

59. Oooo good thought! eom

[Guaranteed]

67. That is a REALLY good idea...

Would take a small investment, but that is GOOD. Would make it MUCH easier- takes me so long with the duct tape. :P

[Sick_of_Rethuggery]

153. Inexpensive idea for printing...

These days, you can buy ink jet printers for around $60 and one ream of paper for a dollar, many times...I did this in Feb and have been printing off my own flyers for leaving around town...

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

58. I emailed the freeway blogger with links

and a request to help. Please don't bombard him, but it might help if a few more of us asked him to help.

[e-mail]

I love his work.

[Robbien]

60. Have everyone use it as your standard signature on your e-mail

Therefore it will be there showing up on the end of each email everyone writes each day.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

61. Eric Blumrich needs to know about this, too.

Will email him.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

66. Ok I emailed him

let's brainstorm names of other people on the net who can help spread this.

[NMDemDist2]

77. we need to send it to every show on AAR

and I'll send it to big Ed Schulz

[blondeatlast]

62. DON'T STOP WITH THE GRAPHIC! Let's OWN black and white!

Ribbons, clothing, landscape, cars, fingernails, hair--seriously, make it OURS!

[Guaranteed]

64. YUP nt

[juajen]

143. Hooray!!! I love it.

By our colors will you know us. Black and white whenever we go out, corsages of tiny black and white curly ribbon pinned to our clothing. This is a great idea. Of course, this is easy for me. I don't go out often. I imagine it could get tricky for someone working nine to five.

Even if it is my idea, I love the idea of black armbands with a decal of two-faced.

[Insider]

165. excellent

[Barad Simith]

69. make it your LiveJournal default user pic

100x100 fits perfectly

[nickgutierrez]

119. I can do that

Couldn't remember how big the LJ user pictures could be (haven't made one in a while), but 100x100 does sound about right.

[Sparkly]

70. Iron onto clothes, hats, canvas bags, pockets, ties, etc... -- Here's how

It's a long story as to why I know this, but you can iron-on images in different ways depending on the fabric you're using.

For 100% cotton, you can use "transfer paper" from office supply stores, which leaves a stiff, plastic sort of coating over the image.

For polyester, some printers can take special "sublimation ink" (certain Epson and Canon types); this comes out soft, but I'm not sure how dark it'd end up even on polyester.

There are also pens made by "Sulky," available in craft stores, which create an iron-on image just by drawing over an image on paper.

(You could also use fabric paint and a stencil.)

(Or, just print it on a sheet of self-adhesive address labels and put it on your pocket or collar.)

[blondeatlast]

80. Thanks--great info! nt

[DesEtoiles]

71. Make your own BUMPER STICKERS at http://www.makestickers.com/

http://www.makestickers.com/


Note how you can upload your own graphics:

http://www.makestickers.com/sendyourownfile2.asp

NOTE - name of uploaded file is CASE SENSITIVE no matter what the web site reports back to you that the uploaded file name is. it will report the file name as all caps, but if the file is named in lowercase on your desk top, you need to enter the name of the file in lower-case

[DesEtoiles]

73. Contact adverstising dept. of college newspapers using this list:

http://www.usnpl.com/

Click on a state, and then click on "College Newspapers"

Note - many college newspapers can do inserts

[mopinko]

72. somebody was passing out cards in chicago

i was in the andersonville neighborhood today, and someone was passing out business card versions of this image. when i recognised, i got a look, like, you are ubercool!

[Guaranteed]

78. Excellent...that could possibly

be the first "Two-faced" connection in a huge movement...

:)

[LoZoccolo]

83. That was me.

Check your pm's. :)

I've got two PDFs that can be used to print certain sizes of Avery business card sheets. One of them has the URL, and one of them is anonymous. I'm trying to pass them out half and half.

[Lone_Wolf_Moderate]

74. T-Shirts? Mouse pads? Has this been implemented already?

Maybe a 30-second TV spot just showing the graphic, with the words "Two-Faced."

[chicagoprogressive]

79. SUGGESTION FOR IMAGE

I have had several people ask that the text "TWO FACE" be placed through the image. Some people are thinking this is an image that makes Bush look like a person who is complicated. Just a thought.

[Guaranteed]

87. Use this image if you want a small bit of text:

http://somnamblst.tripod.com/2faced.pdf

[gristy]

81. The graphic in the links you posted is missing the "Two Faced" text

This is a problem, IMO.

[Guaranteed]

89. Here, just use this:

http://somnamblst.tripod.com/2faced.pdf

[chicagoprogressive]

90. Anyway of providing a JPG ...

Can you post a jpg with that graphic so that it is easy to snatch? I am not sure how to do it from a PDF file. Also, smaller would be better.

[Guaranteed]

93. I actually don't have one,

and have no clue as to how to convert....anyone?

[AmerDem]

104. I totally agree

The 'two faced" text is absolutely needed along with the image ( at least until it becomes more popular ). Many here me included, first thought this was a hack by some freeper when it first started to appear on DU.

Without the text some might feel it is a support of shrub.

[NMDemDist2]

82. i can't get the graphic to show on another board

neither Skinner's nor the other kind person's link :(

[Kierkegaard]

88. Give me the link where you posted it and I'll help you...

[NMDemDist2]

91. here's the link--- help!

http://www.azcentral.com/phorum/read.php?f=13&i=14386&t=14386&phorum_uriauth=

[Kierkegaard]

105. Try this link instead...

<a href="http://www.democraticunderground.com/two-faced/two-faced-100.gif" />

[DesEtoiles]

84. I was able to make a bumper sticker like this:

http://65.165.2.251/stickers/1415926.asp?PN=092519055566

at www.makestickers.com

[mzmolly]

92. I can't get it to come up?

:shrug:

[Kierkegaard]

120. I'm an idiot.

I was in a hurry and not paying attention.

This should work better...

<img src="http://www.democraticunderground.com/two-faced/two-faced-100.gif" />

[Catherine Vincent]

94. It's Respond, Skinner.

;-)

[Skinner]

180. Thanks.

I fixed it. :)

[mzmolly]

95. I still like the idea of contrary Bush quotes. I like the idea of

differing ones too, so that each time someone sees this image, they will be interested in finding out what "this" one says. ;)

For example:

BUSH SAYS WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION..."We found the weapons of mass destruction. We found biological laboratories...for those who say we haven't found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they're wrong, we found them."

...BUSH SAYS WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION "David Kay has found the capacity to produce weapons.And when David Kay goes in and says we haven't found stockpiles yet, and there's theories as to where the weapons went. They could have been destroyed during the war. Saddam and his henchmen could have destroyed them as we entered into Iraq. They could be hidden. They could have been transported to another country, and we'll find out."


One could shorten this on a poster to:
BUSH: WE FOUND THE WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
President Bush, Interview in Poland, 5/29/03

BUSH: WE HAVEN'T FOUND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
President Bush, Meet the Press, 2/7/04]

The next one could read:

BUSH WANTS OSAMA DEAD OR ALIVE... "I want justice. And there's an old poster out West, I recall, that says, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive.'"

BUSH DOESN'T CARE ABOUT OSAMA "I don't know where he is.You know, I just don't spend that much time on him... I truly am not that concerned about him."

source:

http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263

I think each sign could say something different, for example I could print 25 signs, 5 different ones and post them on one street, all with a different message.

:shrug:

[Guaranteed]

96. Let Kerry get involved with that.

We're just setting the stage, piquing (ooo- I spelled it right- I think) interest.

[mzmolly]

99. Ahhhh, booooorrrrink!

;) Ok, I spose ...

[Zookeeper]

133. I really like that idea, Mzmolly...

I understand that the graphic is supposed to stand alone, but there are lots of folks out there that need to have the message spelled out for them.

Really, why can't there be a variety of uses for the image, with and without text?

[Kierkegaard]

98. How about these ideas?

These would require a little pre-work to make them sticky, or you could have some peel 'n' stick images made up at Kinko's or a local print shop.

In order of personal risk:

Most grocery carts have those plastic flapper thingies in the kiddie seat. Stick a couple on each cart. It can be done discreetly as well, when you are heading back out to the parking lot. Home Depot, WalMart and K-mart etc. have them too.

Drive through? Anyone eat fast food? The idiot box is a nice target.

Automated bank tellers, night deposit drawers.

Parking meters.

Freeper vehicles with obnoxious W04 stickers on them.

[Bluebear]

100. Think like the enemy....CHICK TRACTS!!!!

Make up little leaflets to leave in airports, restrooms, public phones, mail rooms.........

For those not familiar with Chick....

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1053/1053_01.asp

[realFedUp]

101. They fit nicely on diskette labels-Avery 8196

That two-sided face
fits nicely into place.

[Zorro]

102. Hey college kids

Put it on your dorm room door.

It should get others to ask you about it, and hand them a copy if they want one to post one on their doors, too.

You might end up seeing a proliferation of these pics across campuses nationwide.

[Carolinian]

107. Wasn't there a villan in Batman that had two faces? BTW, doesn't

Cheney look like the Penguin?

[Walt Starr]

108. Yep, Two-Face was one of the oldest Batman foes

in the comic books. He was very psychotic, made the joker look tame by comparison.

[Carolinian]

164. Wasn't there an old song, "Two Faces Have I?" Good beat, but that's

all the words I can remember.

[Vincardog]

109. Laundry rooms are great. how about in front of Urinals? tape them down goo

[Walt Starr]

110. GOOGLE BOMB WITH YOUR SIGNATURES!!!

[link:www.twofacesofbush.com|Two Faced]

[Walt Starr]

112. Does anybody have an in with the people who make stickers?

I'd love to put a copy of the graphic on my car!

[mopinko]

127. is the dnc doing this?

they should be doing buttons and bumperstickers. i can easily do this, but i would think they would.

[AntiFascist]

116. Can you use this on photo stamps?

http://photo.stamps.com/

use it on all your snail mail.

[NEDem]

160. YES YES, YES

This is the one I'm going to do, Great idea!!

[grace0418]

117. I'd be happy to put the image on a shirt

I can have shirts on my CafePress page with this message as long as this doesn't cause any copyright problems. I'm not in it to profit from this, I'm donating my proceeds and can donate the proceeds of this to whomever.

[AmanAplanKerry]

121. DU and the DNC joining together to defeat bush?

Does this mean DU is going mainstream?

[Bridget Burke]

174. Most of DU has always been mainstream.

Mostly fairly liberal--but that's mainstream for Democrats. A few are farther left in one way or another; no problem.

Then there are the usual idiot Republicans who think they're fooling somebody. They aren't, but we often play with them a while until they're tombstoned.

[montana_hazeleyes]

122. Sports events,

And maybe some could be made with the words two-faced in languages other than English if you're in an area with large populations who's main language is not English.

[Mike Johnson]

123. Gimmicks

Trying to push an image, get it into the culture, means you have to saturate the market. It's sorta like what has happened in the Appalachians with all these storms -- they can take a lot of rain, but once the ground is saturated, a teeny little more rain is a suddenly a lot more destructive. With an image, your first ten or twenty or hundred thousand uses of it will appear to sink silently into the earth, but once you reach that critical point, the image gets noticed and recognized and remembered.

You can speed that up by using some sort of gimmick to start. I like the animated gif of the twofaced image and its negative -- it jumps out at you and it's not hard to reproduce.

For signs to be carried, the image could be on one side, the negative on the reverse, so you can flip or twirl it for an attention-grabbing effect. It'd also be interesting to see the image and its negative used on those twirly sidewalk signs that spin in the wind.

And you know those little Cracker Jack prizes where if you look at it from one angle, you see one image, then look from a different angle and it's something different? It's called a lenticular print, and basically you take two (or more) images and sorta turn them into alternating stripes, then put the lenticular lens on it. I don't know a source, but if you can get a supplier who'll just sell you the lenses, you could make some magic signs that would stand out in any crowd. It'd be almost like having the only color sign in a room full of gray. That sort of thing gets your sign on television.

Other gimmicks could be just having the graphic associated with a chant of "two-faced" shouted like I dunno, a foghorn: Twooo-faaaaaaaaaaced. Or, maybe there's some way to piggyback on to Halloween.

[Zookeeper]

137. Good ideas, Mike Johnson! Welcome to DU! n/t

[leftchick]

124. My Printed out Image is on my Fridge Now!

A neighbor who is repub stopped by with a friend. Those two stared at that for quite some time as I mixed drinks. They never said anything but I know they were intrigued.

[soleft]

125. I'm taking it to the Today Show next week

I have to go to take my cousin who's coming into town from Texas - I'll keep it concealed until I see a chance to get on camera and then flash it - what's great is the cameramen won't really know what it is in the first few seconds so I doubt they will pan away before it gets seen

[ConsAreLiars]

126. Compiling a page of 'two faced' graphics links, including all new ones

that are being created here -- text variants, layouts for label stock or bumper stickers, links to t-shirts or gear, quotes like the pairs listed earlier in the thread, etc. Any of us should be able to give others easy access to the full range of material, by being able to point to on location (two-faced.com) and know that anyone who wants some of this stuff will be able to find it.

(I drove around a bit with an 8-1/2 X 11 in the back window. Got a friendly wave from someone loading a car trunk as I was backing out.)

[jankin]

128. Two-Faced Dubya

I would like to be able to cut and paste the pic into every message
I send -- a sort of blasting imprint. Can't seem to make it work
tho so that the pic comes up instead of a link. I'm photoshop challenged.

jankin

[Gnscih]

130. Two-face belongs on every gas pump

right below the price$. A little reminder of the cost of "bidness"

[Gnscih]

131. Two-face belongs on every gas pump

right below the price$. A little reminder of the cost of "bidness"

[Stainless]

132. I made an 8 1/2 x 11 poster

I tried to copy and paste the 700 x 700 .gif file into a blank Word document. That didn't work so I did a "save as" and converted it to a .jpeg. I centered the image at the top of the page. I then centered below the image the following text in Verdana 48 point red colored font: Two-Faced Liar.

I forgot to set the color on my printer, so the first copy came out all black and white. It looked nice, but the red colored font makes it beautiful.

By the way, none of the text from the original image showed up when I inserted the jpeg.....the picture and text are very stark and mysterious looking! Are there any copyright issues involved?

[vetwife]

134. Print it on your checks.....Personalized checks and great bumper sticker

[blondeatlast]

136. Love the checks idea! nt

[mopinko]

135. want a button?

[MaggieSwanson]

140. Three cheers for mopinko!

:toast:

[noamnety]

139. stencils

These are way cheaper than printing.

I'm not advocating vandalism on walls, but if you made a stencil cut out of the image (you might have to make one for the left side, one for the right side), you could use one pattern and spray paint through it to make larger posters or cardboard sheets that aren't practical to print.

http://www.guilfin.net/gallery/?id=pxINET2755

another thought I had was to overlay text of flipflops onto the image itself, so from a distance, it's the image, but closeup, a person could read a litany of opposing stances. I could throw a sample one together if you like.

[Philosophy]

146. Kinda like Bob Dobbs?

Of The Church of the Subgenius. I've seen him spray paint stenciled on highway overpasses and walls here and there.

[noamnety]

155. exactly

That's the fast and efficient way to do it for large pictures, one stencil, many images.

[troublemaker]

142. Self Inking Rubber Stamp Pads

Ideal for "customizing" stacks of things that are given away free, adding two face to the back of existing cards, flyers, campaign literature, etc. Also good for temporary tattoos. (Unfortunately also convenient for non-approved methods like newspapers on racks and paper money. Don't want to do anything bad!)

Self-inking stamps are not all too expensive and there ought to be places on the net that turn them around quickly. The two faced graphic is square and all the standard self-inking stamps are long and thin. The most useful (squarest) standard size for self-inking custom stamp pads is 1 1/2" x 3" (Copy Area 2 3/4" x 1 1/4")

example (not a suggested outlet, just an example):
http://rbrstamp.com/ideal-stamps.html

Google "self inking custom stamp" to shop around.

If you are ordering a 1.5x3" stamp and want to add "TWO FACED" text here are two options. (I would post these as finished graphics that can be forwarded to stamp-makers, but I don't have a sufficiently anonymous posting site at the moment.):

_____________

orientation vertical (3" tall)
text: heavy or extra bold; sans serif face. Centered
aprx 36 point type: TWO
Graphic centered, 1 1/2" square.
aprx 24 point type: FACED

_____________________

14 point type:
TWO FACED
TWO FACED
TWO FACED
Graphic centered, 1 1/2" square.
TWO FACED
TWO FACED
TWO FACED

[Teaser]

144. Post them to porn sites...

I am so *totally* not kidding.

[grace0418]

145. Okay I've set it up

See my link in my signature line or go directly to:
http://www.cafepress.com/geelove/391336

I've got t-shirts, buttons, magnets, a hat, a bumper sticker, a mug, even a clock! The proceeds will go to the DNC.

[pacalo]

175. Thanks, Grace...

I've ordered a t-shirt from you & I love the fit. I'm going to order one with the two-faced graphic, too.

[Gregorian]

147. I know what W stands for

Oh, suddenly Dubya, double-u, double faced, dubya faced are all flooding my head.

Dubya faced. Double ya.

Anyways, that's my first contribution. I'm not sure it does the trick, but it's making me hungry. :)

[Radical Activist]

148. What message?

We've got a website with a graphic and that's about it. That's a slogan, not a message. My suggestion is to put something on the website about all the ways that Bush is actually two-faced to give this message a little more depth.

[AuntPatsy]

158. I agree as well, a more clearer message is needed, I love the

pic as far as it holds you for a moment with it's starkness, but like others' I thought the freepers had someone put them besides peoples names, it shouldn't hold questions that might put Bush in a good light, some wordings short but vivid in that it holds one captive in thought about the meaning behind the few words, twofaced I don't exactly feel will get to ones that are still behind Bush, it sounds a bit childish, sorry, don't get in a roar but I dont' like waffle and flip flop either, its so juvenile and I believe our minds to be much more clever than that..

[Guaranteed]

163. It's a PRIMING. nt

[Guaranteed]

162. God, just DO it.

Stop asking questions!!

[kittykitty]

150. Sorta like the black and white Che Guevera images from the 60's -70's

They were everywhere for years--at least in the Bay Area in California.
On evey telephone pole, bulletin board, store window. Funny thing is, I don't remember what they were for.

[Borgnine]

151. Did somebody say Two Face?

Holy facsism, Batman!

[Walt Starr]

152. How about a rubber stamp?

Start stamping it on $1 bills.

[NMDemDist2]

154. EVERYBODY MAIL ONE TO BUSH AT THE WHITE HOUSE

and don't forget to send one to Crawford too....

bags and bags of twofaced posters in the mail rooms lol

[Stew225]

156. caption idea: Read my face. (or faces) eom

[noamnety]

157. how about regular postage stamps?

http://photo.stamps.com/

[Onlooker]

159. A chain letter

Someone should put together a well-written chain letter, obviously not one that has curses or threats, just one that says, Please send this out to anyone you feel comfortable sending it out to.

It could provide a link to the graphic or provide the actual graphic itself. The text could be about Bush being two-faced, and be pretty clever, maybe humorous.

DU could then promote the chain letter, even asking people to post it in other forums.

[Guaranteed]

161. Just got back from another mission.

I stapled a couple to wooden lampposts, one downtown within easy reach of anyone, another where it would be tough to get at; another on the outside of the second level of a parking garage, again, tough to get at; I put a folded one in one of those free auto sales catalogue bins; put one under the windshield wipers of a car with Kerry/Edwards stuff all over it; then two more in VERY DIFFICULT places to get along the busiest roads in town. I expect those last two to stay up for weeks.

:)

It's a real rush, doing this. I figure the cops have probably noticed them by now, and they're wondering who's doing it.

[montana_hazeleyes]

177. Sounds Like

you're having a great time doing this BullGoose!LOL

:yourock:

[Insider]

166. avatar and sig line for all message boards

off to fix them all (5 or so) now. for some, it is informing the other troops. sort of like "pass it on" that seems like a way to get it global in ... minutes? hours?

[tinrobot]

167. Gotta hit the swing states!

Plastering these images all over my liberal city will be like preaching to the choir. We *have* to get these into areas where it will have the most effect.

I have a Democrat/activist friend from Arizona coming through on Tuesday. I'm going to load her up with stickers and flyers and tell her to get Arizona plastered with these.

I'm even thinking of going there myself.

[LincolnMcGrath]

168. Help NEEDED!

If I can get this image to work I can run off hundreds of copies.

Can I save it to a floppy? What size will best fill 8 x 11 standard paper. Do I need to convert it to some different format? Office PCs have excel, word, adobe, power point, etc.

[tinrobot]

170. The files are small

The 1500x1500 was less than 1K because it was Black and White. You could probably fit all the resolutions on a single floppy.

It's GIF, so you can print it from almost anything. I'm printing from Photoshop. Used the 1500x1500 and set it to 200dpi for an image that prints nicely on 8.5x11

You could also import it into Word, or even just load it up in a browser and print from there.

[LincolnMcGrath]

171. Thank You Very MUCH!

:yourock:

[JCMach1]

169. I will do what I can to help google bomb this meme

:)

[GingerSnaps]

178. Buy your newspaper from a machine and put flyer's in every newspaper

I know that sounds crazy but we should put them in every hotel, restaurant, and dept. store bathrooms.

Hang them up at Colleges, Grocery Stores, and ask small businesses if we can put a flier in their window.

We have to go to the parking lots at malls and place them on every car.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

179. Here's my list

Bulletin boards: Tons of places have them - campuses, offices, grocery stores and other retailers, coffee shops etc. If you don’t want to get caught putting up a big sign, tack up a small one. Or put up a business card (excellent idea, LoZoccolo) – less likely to be taken down. Lots of places like music stores and coffee shops also keep stacks of free publications near the door – like The Onion, or auto shopper/real estate weeklies, stuff like that. Leave a stack of printouts there, but it’d be good to ask first.

The person who’s taking a two-face sign when she goes to the Today Show – great! Take them wherever you go that you might get on camera: rallies, marches, parades, marathons, walkathons, street fairs and festivals, etc.

Even better, make a mask: print the pic on light Bristol board/card stock (I’ve used it in my inkjet printer with no problems), poke a little hole on each side of the face and fasten a piece of elastic to it to hold it on.

Get a group together, put on your masks and walk around in malls and on streets with lots of traffic. Kind of a flash mob thing – just walk through with no comment and then unmask around a quiet corner. Dress in black and white.

There’s no reason you couldn’t do a TV spot. Ten-second buys are the minimum. I think networks require some kind of sound – they may have changed the rules, but I understand they don’t accept completely silent commercials – but if you animate the image, a flickering sound or other sfx would be enough, and make sense. You also have to ID the group that paid for the ad, so keep that in mind.

Most towns have at least one kind of “alternative” store - bookstores, clothing stores, health food stores, comic stores, music shops and the like. If DU can provide plastic shopping bags printed with the image, we could supply them to local merchants. A lot of us own businesses or know business owners who could also use the bags.

Every website that links to DU or has links featured on DU should be contacted and asked to link to the image. Each host of AAR should have a link to it on their blog. Or just post the link on AAR's blogs yourself, repeatedly, throughout the program, every day/evening. More people will pick up the link and take it to all the sites they regularly visit.

Many of us live in cities that provide cable access programming. Some of the shows I’ve seen are nothing but big text and graphics ranting about whatever the host has in mind. (One guy leaves up a super for a half hour that says something like “You’re all fucking idiots.” Another one sometimes just shows a dog sitting on a pillow.) We can get our own cable access programs, or ask the hosts of existing shows to put up the graphic for one whole show. We can send them T-shirts to wear on their shows.

We can also send tees to other local TV hosts, for example in Chicago a guy named Jerry Bryant has hosted a great rock show for years (and he’s on our side - we saw him at the theatre when we went to see F-9/11).

A word of caution about putting stickers everywhere: some big advertisers have done it in and been billed by the city for the cost of sticker removal. Example: Microsoft covered NYC in butterfly stickers and was forced to remove them. Worse, it got them negative publicity.

Some guerilla marketers are now using plastic static-cling stickers that are easily removed. Here’s a supplier with a price list: http://screen-printing.safeshopper.com/29/cat29.htm You can find more by googling “static cling stickers.” If DU has the resources, or access to the resources, this would be a great thing to distribute to us lackeys in the field.

Likewise if DU has the funds to get coasters printed, we could distribute them at local bars. (Don’t forget bar bathrooms when you’re putting up posters.)

An idea about stencils: apply them with chalk on sidewalks, walls, etc. so DU/DNC won’t catch shit about defacing property.

Also, there is also a new method called “Clean Graffiti” where the stenciler uses cleaning solution and a brush to etch the stencil into a dirty surface (which is just about anywhere). The stenciler is removing dirt to make the image, not applying paint, so it’s very hard for the municipality to get upset about it. Here’s a link to a story about a London grafitti artist who does it: http://www.npr.org/features/feature.php?wfId=3379017

Another DU-funded idea: postcards. A couple of years ago a company started installing mini-kiosks in restaurants, bars and stores with slots to hold an assortment of postcards that were free to anyone who wanted them. You might have seen them. They didn’t quite catch on because most advertisers did boring cards that nobody wanted. But the kiosks are still up, and it would be easy to slip a bunch into the display. Or send the cards yourself.

I’ll think of more but that’s all for now.

[Skinner]

181. I JUST OPENED THREAD #2

Continue discussion here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x900717