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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:02 PM
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W Is For Women - Is Bush really getting the female vote?
Edited on Sat Sep-25-04 07:15 PM by DancingBear
Listening to The Laura Flanders Show (AAR) in the car just now, the discussion centered around the women's vote. Celinda Lake (Dem pollster) made the statement that all polling is showing * with a sizable lead among (specifically) married women, who feel * is a stronger leader when it comes to the war on terror. She (along with another guest whose name escapes me) also argued that Kerry has run a poor campaign, and has not connected with women voters AT ALL, and that the gender gap is smaller than it has been in years.

I was stunned. Has anyone else heard this, or seen this? I must say that the circles we travel in do not show this, but both women were adamant in their belief that this is very true, and that *'s W Is For Women campaign is working.

Discuss.
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:04 PM
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1. I think it stands for WHACKO.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:11 PM
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4. Nah...it stands for Whoops!
As in big mistake.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:07 PM
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2. Hmmmm - I'm thinking Worthless. eom
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:07 PM
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3. 100% of the women I know
are voting Kerry.
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Leilani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:26 PM
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5. I have tried to follow this story , because I also heard Celinda Lake
& she is a good Dem pollster.

The only facts I can find: Gore won women by 11% in 2000. (all women)

22 million single women did not vote in 2000.

I cannot find breakdowns in polling for this election.
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Malva Zebrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 07:26 PM
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6. My neigbors have a W stand for women sign on their lawn
they got it at a rally here in Maine, which the dumb and vacant Laura Bush was the featured speaker. It disgusted me to see that my two supposedly moderate Republican Senators Snowe and Collins, who supposedly were and are, so far as I know, pro-choice,at least that is what they advertised themselves as to get elected, got right up there on stage with Laura to declare the "W is for women" mantra .

How can any woman in her right mind think that Bush is for women? How can Snowe and Collins profess to be pro-choice when the first thing that Bush did upon taking the oath of office was to cut out any funding to those women's health clinics in foreign countries that educated poor women as to their choices when it came to their pregnancy?


These women who think that Bush stands for them are following their husband's support for Bush, I think. They cannot have a mind of their own at all, knowing Bush's fundamentalist Christian beliefs and his disdain shown toward women with the signing of the bill that prohibits third term abortion and not a SINGLE MENTION in that bill that mentions the health of the mother.
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:05 PM
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7. Let's all join MOB - Mothers Opposed to Bush - mob.org- See 'ya there!
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:07 PM
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8. He's not getting this females vote...that's for damn sure
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:12 PM
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9. As a woman, I find that discussion insulting.
Kerry has connected with me just fine.
What are the so-called "women's issues?"

Terror? Kerry will address it directly and efficiently. And he won't distract us with a false war.

Economy? Bush says it's great. Kerry says we need to make sure everyone is cared for.

Health Care? ibid.

Environment? ibid.

Education? Please. No Contest.


Kerry has consistently said there are no red/blue states, we are all americans. Maybe I assume too much, but I also think that means there are really no male/female issues, either.

Even so, I remain a proud Woman For Kerry.
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Liberal Gramma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:17 PM
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10. Not mine.
I find it hard to believe that women feel safer with Bush in power. Do these women have children that will be subject to the draft that he will surely need to have to keep up his pre-emptive wars on oil rich countries? Do they want abortion to be outlawed? Rape privacy laws to be repealed? Affirmative action to be recalled? I can't think of a thing that women stand to gain from this administration.
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Digit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:38 PM
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11. Yep, just more misinformation from the media
Voting for Bush would set women back YEARS.
Only a fundie would vote that way....and that is only
because they are content in their role as "property" of the man.
I shudder to think of it.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 08:42 PM
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12. re: "Yep, just more misinformation from the media"
Why, then, would DEM pollsters be repeating it?

On AAR, no less.

What purpose is served by it, unless you are condemning all polls, even the ones that DEM pollsters like Lake are looking at.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 09:00 PM
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13. The latest poll has 52% of Maine women going for Kerry
Obviously W isn't doing much for us here!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-25-04 11:34 PM
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14. The coWard is not getting the *thinking* women's vote.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:25 AM
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16. Omg that would make a great slogan on a teeshirt, can we use it?
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 01:49 AM
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18. Of course!
If you sell t-shirts, I'd like to buy one. :)
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Carolinian Donating Member (861 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:22 AM
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15. Everytime I read this post I get mad. I don't want to be used as part
of anything that supports Bush!
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-26-04 12:59 AM
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17. I feel as if all this security talk w/ women is very condensending
Do people REALLY think women are trembling hens that are running around in fear? Do people REALLY think women are voting for Bush JUST because of that?
This woman is voting for Kerry because I know the world is scary place and, unlike Bush, Kerry has a plan for the world's safety AND America's safety.
Plus, I kinda want to keep control of my body.
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