Should John Kerry call the President a "liar" in the debates?

[Lancer]

Or should he use every synonym, but not the "L" word itself.

I'm of two minds about this, and wonder what you all think.

It would, of course be accurate to say lie, lies, lying, liar, but how would it play?

[shraby]

1. If he does, the media will probably call him shrill,

and desperate.

[kentuck]

2. "Now I don't want to call Mr Bush a liar but..."

"what he is saying is simply not true..." :)

[KittyWampus]

18. BINGO!

[Cassandra]

20. Ooh!

I like that one!

[Lizzie Borden]

31. Me Too!

[Cha]

42. Zing!

Bonsai! Using the L word without using it!

[charlie105]

3. If Bush uses the word flip-flopper, I say it's fair to call Bush

a liar.

[IronLionZion]

7. two-faced!

our new term for Bush is two faced.

[Nite Owl]

10. Perfect come back to flip flop

And it has that pshycological conotation. Which Bush* do we believe? Which Bush* is talking tonight?

[Cassandra]

4. Lie is OK...

probably calling him a liar wouldn't look so great. But if he catches him in an outright lie about something signifigant, he should say it's a lie.

[goodwalt]

15. Absolutely agree

"Mr. President- that is a lie" is exactly the way to respond to specific mis-information from W during the debates. People won't respect/respond to "Respectfully disagreeing", but at the same time it IS distinguishable from name calling.

[IronLionZion]

5. FUCK NO!!!

But the rest of us should.


Kerry can ask Bush why he hasn't been entirely honest with the American people or why No Child Left Behind left the funding behind or why Clear Skies has polluted our skies and so on. The dishonesty and deceit should be exposed.

Kerry calling Bush names would not go over well with many voters.

[dennis4868]

32. Kerry can ask Bush

one of the rules that Bush's people got in there was that there is to be no questions asked between the 2 debaters....

[IronLionZion]

35. Are you serious?

:wtf: and Kerry agreed to that?

[dennis4868]

37. yep.....

Kerry gave into to Bush on many matters in exchange for a third debate....really sucks...another thing I mad at that Kerry agreed to was no follow-up questions are allowed.....

[boxster]

6. Nope.

There are plenty of other creative ways to call Bush a liar.

Though, I'm sure you'll get plenty of responses stating that he should use the "L" word. Some DUers have been demanding that for months.

[El Supremo]

8. Yes, and a murderer, an idiot and a puppet.

He and Edwards have already called them "liars" in several interviews. Hell, I'd refuse to debate * and insist on debating the real powers in the administration.

[Southern Patriot]

9. No... just illustrate his lies. nfm

nfm

[jjmalonejr]

11. Not a liar, but WRONG

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[Moonbeam_Starlight]

12. No.

I wouldn't mind him pointing out that he "lied" but to say "liar" is a different thing.

Pointing out the behavior is always classier and still gets the point across.

[Vincardog]

13. When the pResident repeats the stories provided by VP Cheney

that are un verified what else can we call it? Speak of * in the third person. Talk about Ash croft's policies, Cheney's plans, Wolfies proposals, Make it clear that the chimp is everyone Else's sock puppet. Never try to convince the Chimp. Always talk to the people about the real facts. Let them with eyes see.

[peacetalksforall]

14. He should state the facts and he won't have to say liar or use a

euphemism.

[Leilani]

16. He should call his statements misleading

& also label his actions as reckless.

But do not call HIM that, personally.

[Lancer]

22. I'm with all of you who say Kerry should

label the actions/policies/statements, as lies, etc., but NOT shrub himself.

I'm really glad I asked because I've been going back and forth on this. Thanks!

[salib]

17. Man speaks with forked tongue

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

19. Absolutely--if he lies.

Don't pull it out of your ass, John--just wait for him to lie and then call him on it.

[troublemaker]

21. He should characterize lies as "lies", but not name-call (liar)

[realFedUp]

23. Use the L word - n/t

[Kahuna]

24. No. He should point out how he has mislead on many occasions.

Hopefully the dimwitted voters will get the picture. I somehow doubt it though.

[zulchzulu]

25. "Liar" is too harsh...I'd say something like "mythomaniac"

OK...kidding...

Maybe "truth-challenged"...

[mahina]

26. Say it!

It's one syllable, easily understood.
'False' is good too. Don't dance around it, say it like it is.
Is what I'd tell him if he asked me. But I trust the man to do the right thing.

I know he's gong to win, both the debates and the election. It's going to be up to us to make sure they don't get away with any games this time.

[rndmprsn]

27. the president lied about iraq and continues to do so.

kerry has the facts and truth on his side....hope it still means something.

[bush equals idiot]

28. Or.

Misrepresented and failed to tell the truth.

[HarveyBriggs]

29. No, He should though, callenge "Bush Facts."

Make Bush convict himself of lieing.

Harvey Briggs

[Carolinian]

30. Don't say "You are a Liar". Say "That is a Lie". There is a difference.

[kodi]

33. attack the words, not the man. if bush asks "are you calling me a liar?"

then say, "you know how i I hate to agree with, but yes, you are."

[Senior citizen]

39. Are you calling me a liar?

Not at all. I'm just stating the facts proving the things you said are untrue. For example.....

:evilgrin:

[Sparkly]

34. Not "liar," but euphemisms

Say that Mr. B* continues to "pretend," "mislead," "paint phony, rosy scenarios," "embellish," "distort," etc...

[Blaze Diem]

38. add to your list:

wears Laura's panty hose. HAAAAAAAa

Call * a short, stupid sissy mcweenie!!!...HAAAAAA
Chuckle to yourself Mr Kerry...hear the sound of laughter roaring across America and around the World.


Ridicule the spoiled overprivileged stupid goat faced gonad.
Use your fine prosecutorial skills, Mr. Kerry, and watch him sqirm whenever you look him in the eye.
This debate is nothing more than YOUR COURTROOM, and Bush is sitting in the "hotseat". Make him cry on the stand, Mr. Kerry!! MAKE GEORGE CRY!

That's the side of John Kerry I want to see. Let the media hoes and pubbies wail and yelp all they want. The World will applaud you.

[mitchum]

36. Yes

[HEIL PRESIDENT GOD]

40. How about an ultimatum?

Give Bush one week to come clean about all his mistakes, lies, miscommunications.

[WiseMen]

41. Weak, Wus, Wobbly, Wanton, Wishfull, Wasted ...

[demokatgurrl]

43. There are many synonyms

and he should use every one of them. Mislead, fabricate, concoct, fantasize, weave out of whole cloth, fail to tell the trugh, was dishonest, stated a falsehood, etd.

Meanwhile, Dean, Clark, McAuliffe, Senators etc. should use the simple word "Liar".

[settembrini]

44. Don't call him a liar, just point out his lies

For example: "On 9/7/2002, you stood with Tony Blair and told the American people that an IAEA report stated that Iraq was 6 months away from a nuclear weapon. In fact, the report you referred to said the opposite. The IAEA has said they made no such statement."

That way, he can't repeat his line about "we all believed the intelligence, Clinton did too, etc." This is a direct lie, attributable to him and only him.

[cidliz2004]

45. No, that is just further lowering the bar

As someone else said - Bush's statements and or policies can be called lies, but NAME CALLING is wrong.

Even if Bush calls Kerry a Flip-Floper, Kerry should just say "Mr. Bush, I don't want to resort to name calling, you have lowered the standards of the United States Government more than any other President of modern day history, I do not wish to add to this travesty."

[hansolsen]

46. I wouldn't hesitate to use the word lie or lies, but would avoid the name

calling or "liar". But what I believe is more important is too broaden the critique to label what Bush has done as immoral and unethical.

It was enethical to mislead the country into war.

It was immoral to approve torture of detainees denied the protections of the Geneva Convention.

It would be effective, I believe, to say it is not in accord with Christian values to seek revenge for 9/11.

I would say George Bush is not only a liar, he is the most unChristian man who ever served in the Oval Office.

[Kahuna]

47. He won't have to. The moderator will likely bring it up that Kerry has

used the word and ask Kerry, 'did really mean to call the PRESIDENT a LIAR???!!! (shock! gasp! horror!) Kerry needs to be ready for this.