"911 happened on George Bush's watch!" Why are Dems afraid to say it?

[mzmolly]

Were finally calling * on exploiting 911 at the convention but ... watch the media pundits talk about how "terrorism" is now one of the key issues in this election. They question dem surrogates about how Kerry can't possibly compete with * :eyes: aka (Mr. tough on terror) himself, and how do we respond? "John Kerry will do everything in his power to ....... Blah blah blah.

WE MUST RELATE TO THE AVERAGE AMERICAN.

Not one of our surrogates states the obvious. HELLO!!! Do you think for ONE second the Republicans wouldn't have been harping on this for 3 fargen years now were the shoe on the other foot?

WAKKKKE UPPPP DEMOCRATS! :think:

[grannylib]

1. Exactly! Holy schneikies....what is so damn hard for people to figure out

about this??
* ignored intelligence
* ignored warnings from our last legitimately elected Pres (get well soon, Big Dog!)
* had war in Iraq planned regardless
* ignored his own experts
* ignored reports
* let 9/11 happen on his watch
* is a moron
* can no more keep us safe than can my 82-year-old Mother, ferpetessake....(actually, my mom being the tolerant, loving, Green peacenik that she is, my money's on Ma...she might at least TRY diplomacy first)

This little weenie is the Worst pResident Ever...
He and his evil henchmen/women MUST be stopped.

[jbfam4]

10. like what W is for....

The other important information they are not talking about is the PNAC group. What about the letter they sent to Clinton regarding war with Irq. Why isn't more being said about this? This was planned back in the 90's. 9-11 was their excuse to go into Iraq. I thought Cheney's name had been on the list, but it isn't listed now. Was I dreaming or was it removed?

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett

Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky

Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad

William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman

Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber

Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick

[DemBones DemBones]

22. Well, if you dreamed it, so did I. I think Cheney was a

signatory.

On edit: And so was Jeb Bush.

[mzmolly]

26. I totally agree, it's the DEMS JOB to educate the voters on the difference

in choice between the candidates.

[mzmolly]

24. Testify Granny!

;)

[jbfam4]

2. Totally agree

Instead many callers into Washington Journal are making the point of how great *Bush is because no other attacks took place since 9-11. I have heard this same spin on other talk shows.

So if *Dubya is so great because no other attacks have happened on his watch, the reverse is also true.....Because 9-11 happened on his watch he wasn't doing his job. He wasn't protecting us. YOU can't have it both ways.

[mzmolly]

25. I know, isn't that ridiculous!

EGADZ! Clinton had ZERO 911's. He also prevented numerous major terrorist attacks. :wtf:

[RollergirlVT]

42. aw c'mon

how could poor georgie protect us when those mean old terrorists didn't tell him when, where or how they would strike? Who could've imagined? Terrorists were only a Clinton problem everyone knows that.

[NewYorkerfromMass]

3. I'm not. Everyone knows it.

and those August PDBs Bush ignored.

[Democat]

4. Most current elected Democrats are wimps!

We need to replace these cowards with some real fighters.

It's so frustrating to watch our side get beaten down time after time.

Look at our leader of the Senate - how fucking pathetic we look!

[Nordic]

20. exactly. Or start a new party altogether

I am so sick of the democratic party leadership I say it's time to just go around them and start completely over.

Let's start a new "progressive" party.

[farmbo]

5. I too am mystified that we're afraid to upset Bush with his 9/11 FAILURE!

The GOP can, and incessantly does, use the 9/11 tragedy for their own political benefit. Hell...they're using Mohammad Atta in anti- Kerry ads in battleground states as we speak.

Yet we appear to be afraid to use Bush's documented failures...and they are many... which made 9/11 possible. We've unilaterally disarmed.

The result has been a through-the-looking glass world where Bush...who presided over a colossal intelligence failure which caused the worst terror attack in US history...is considered "strong on terror" by US voters.

When will someone step forward to state the obvious.

[TexasSissy]

18. What've we got to lose? Nothin'!!!

[Nordic]

21. who you callin' "we"? I'm ready to send Bush to jail for his failures

and so are a lot of us here.

The Dumbocratic leadership are the nimrods here.

Any old Dean-haters wishing he were in the race now?

We want fighters.

[mzmolly]

27. EXACTLY!!!!

:toast:

[oasis]

6. My Pet Goat

Wait'll "Farentheit 9/11" makes the rounds on the DVD circuit. The public outrage will penetrate the media.

[Trajan]

7. Ive been drilling this one home on my FReeper-in-Laws ...

They try to fall back on the 'no actionable intelligence' rot .... but that memo titled 'Al Qaeda determined to strike in US' is simply too much to weasel out of ...

Georgie Boy went on a nice long vacation when our nation was threatened ...

George Bush did NOT protect america ....

They squirm like baptists in a catholic church when they hear it ...

[mzmolly]

28. I'd love to see the memo/the vacation and the "book" in one ad

discussing *'s colossal failure on 911.

[2Design]

8. book in bookstore blames clinton for osama -

there are two long 4 shelf high books NEW on politics - I get so ANGRY when I see these lies and crap

[Thrill]

9. No backbone

Whats new?

[sandersadu]

11. Finally

I've been saying this for months. The simple fact is that the worst terrorist attack in our history happened on Bush's watch. Imagine if Gore had been president. Imagine what the repukes would have done:

(1) Impeach Gore (pretty self-explanatory)
(2) Every Repub. senator, congressman, governor and commentator would say that Gore couldn't be trusted w/ nat'l security b/c worst terrorist attack on nation's history.
(3) There's more, but I'm so frustrated that our guys haven't even mentioned this, that I'll stop now.

[mzmolly]

29. You said it!

They would never have let up. There would have been no UNITY after 911, they'd have eaten us alive with second guessing and blame.

[Radical Activist]

12. After Bush got a warning he went of vacation

I hope Kerry brings that up in the debates.

[mzmolly]

30. That would be nice .. if they were holding it for "the right moment"

:shrug:

[VOX]

13. GOP: WHY did ASScroft refuse to fly commercial airlines in summer 2001????

There has been way too much silence on this documented fact:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2001/07/26/national/main303601.shtml
Ashcroft Flying High
WASHINGTON, July 26, 2001
<snip>
In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.

"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.
<snip>

[mzmolly]

31. OMG, of this I was not aware.

:wow:

[yardwork]

14. I said it in a recently published letter to the editor

and the freeps practically had coronaries. All they could do was sputter about Clinton. I hope that Kerry mentions it during each debate.

[paulpaul]

15. Isn't the question who did 9/11 more appropriate?

Just read the interview with Stanley Hilton on www.letsroll911.org

He has conclusive evidence from US military officials and FBI officials that the Bush government ordered to plan and execute the attacks on WTC on 9/11.

Shocking? Perhaps. Now the taks to spread the word.

[zappaman]

16. stop with the 9/11 crap about drone planes

"He has conclusive evidence from US military officials and FBI officials that the Bush government ordered to plan and execute the attacks on WTC on 9/11."
Please point out the "conclusive evidence".
It's stuff like this site and David Ickes who muddy the waters so the truth never gets out.

on edit-by "this site", I meant the letsroll911.org and not DU...

[newyawker99]

17. Hi paulpaul!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[mzmolly]

19. It's a matter of doing what we can to win the election.

:hi:

Welcome to DU!

[hippiechick]

23. My debate wish:

For Kerry to plainly and flatly ask why this Pretzeldent continues to tie 9/11 Al Q to Iraq, when it has been shown over and over again that there is no link.


PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, Kerry, do NOT use 'War on Terra' and 'Iraq' in the same sentence !!!!!!!

[mzmolly]

32. I hope he makes a similar statement as well ...

;) it's a good wish.

[Dancing_Dave]

33. If Democrats were brave enough to tell the truth BUSH&CHENEY DID IT

They would win, of course. But most aren't brave enough to face the evidence and the terrible truth.

Some such intellectual cowards in this forum might still attack me for telling the truth at this late date. Get the information, bust the cover-up and figure out what really happened for yourself:
http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html

If enough Democrats could face the truth themselves and make sharing it with there fellow citizens a real priority, we would win, of course. Otherwise, we shall certainly lose.

[mzmolly]

35. I think Bush is too much of a nervous nelly to be involved in 911 so if it

was planned, I don't think they "told him" ... I used to believe they did, but now I think they sorta mold him like clay.

[roseBudd]

34. show them the 08/06/01 PDB: Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US

Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high resolution TIF or PDF files to print and distribute. Let's Michael Moore Bush by showing the sheeple the explicit warning BushCo ignored in 2001!

[mzmolly]

36. That's great!

:toast:

[George W. Dunce]

37. As soon as Kerry says that all we will hear is

The 9/11 commission didn't blame Bush. They said it was a combination of that evil Bill Clinton and kinda, sorta in an abstract way Bush was almost responsible for not knowing Clinton goofed up.

[dansolo]

38. Terrorism wasn't even on their radar

There is no need to go on about what Bush knew and when he knew it. That can easily be dismissed as a conspiracy theory, even if there is a grain of truth there. No, the real point of attack should be how this administration got caught with its proverbial pants around its ankles, after having done absolutely nothing to even attempt to protect the US from an attack.

[mzmolly]

39. Yep.

Bush *vacationed* while the US was in danger.

[AuntPatsy]

40. Lol, I say it all the time, all I get in response is that it was Clinton's

fault, the rightwinged motto, when all else fails and you not your in deep shit, blame the democrat...they are told, they just choose not to believe it...I have seen many shows where the surrogates have stated the obvious, considering the media's obvious biased reporting these days, nine times out of ten, the all chorus together, "It's All Clinton's Fault"....

I've been awake long before this four year reign of inept bungling mudslinging rhetoric had begun, I hate to say it but it all began with Clinton;-) They went after him with all they had which was nothing actually;-)

It's kind of hard talking to brick walls that breathe nothing but mortar...

[mzmolly]

41. True, but as I said to the campaign "Clinton isn't running"

who cares what they say about him?

At least if we put the blame for 911 where it belongs .. on G W BUSH some people may actually "think about it" :shrug: ;)

[AuntPatsy]

43. True which is what we do, I believe they have a problem with

accountability, we could blame the parents?

[Disturbed]

44. "start a new party altogether"

No need to do that just join The Green Party. ;)

[mzmolly]

45. Nah, the Green Party won't defeat Bush.

And they are certainly lacking in perfection as well. ;)

[mzmolly]

47. LOL ... yeah that "personal responsibility" crap doens't apply to the R's

;)

[HarveyBriggs]

46. I'm not, I say it all the time.

The response is usually weak like,"Clinton's Fault."

The reply is easy, "But Bush was President. Can't he handle that responsibility? From what you tell me, he can't. And that's what worries me about your support of this irresponsible man, And what worries me about Bush as President."

Conversation is usuall over by then. Unless the righty poll all the terrorists he or she knows and tells me Osama supports Kerry.

Harvey Briggs

[mzmolly]

48. .