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funky_bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:03 AM
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Servicemen giving * the finger - 1/3 military vote coming our way.
From Slate

"USA Today leads with word that one-third of the 1,600 former soldiers who've been ordered back into service are giving the Army the hand and haven't shown up. About have requested medical exemptions, which they're unlikely to get. "The numbers don't look good," said an Army spokesman."

Sry no link... this is from my e-mail, but the article is in USA Dismay.

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:07 AM
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1. from a post I read here yesterday
It more or less said ALL military voting ballots are going to be sent to and handled by the Dept. of Defense. Get ready for another rigged tally!
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:09 AM
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2. maybe not. the lifers at the pentagon aren't real happy with the .....
...neocon scum. The military just might suprise all of us and actually allow soldiers to cast their votes without interference.

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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:43 AM
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8. there are no maybes about it
Rumsfeld and his neocon PNAC team control every bit of the military. There is no way they will allow the vote to go to anyone other then shrub. Their neck is literally on the line. They know once Kerry takes office he will be starting deep investigations into everything (look at Iran Contra). Look at what most of us know here, Rumsfeld has stated on the record to having at least 1 "ghost" prisoner, that is a direct violation of the Geneva Convention, he would then be treated a war criminal. We have the Israel spy ring that many feel go directly to the top, Rumsfeld included (this is treason of the highest order).

This is earth shattering stuff once proven true.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:18 PM
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13. Investigate EVERYTHING!!! We do not yet know the depths these....
...bastards have sunk to. And I agree, they will try anything, say anything, do anything to stay in power. They have far too much to lose.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:24 AM
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6. We need Jimmy Carter on this one.
We need to find Democratic high ranking military officials who will be given the right to oversee the deliverance of those ballots.
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ArkDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:14 AM
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3. There is no question that the military will vote Democratic
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 10:14 AM by ArkDem
OVERWHELMINGLY this election.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:39 AM
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7. there is hope...
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truthpusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:18 AM
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4. USA Today Article
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 11:35 AM
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12. Hi truthpusher!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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BlueNomad Donating Member (494 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:19 AM
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5. I contend that Virginia
is closer than it should be because many many military families are just sick of Bush.
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dansolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 10:53 AM
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9. Why can't military ballots be sent early?
The whole notion of allowing late military ballots to be submitted late because of the slow mail deliver is a complete red herring. If mail delivery is that slow, then military ballots should be sent in early. The thought of allowing *ANY* entity to break the confidentiality of voting is inexcusable. Even if there were no vote tampering going on, how do you expect a soldier to react if they know that their CO strongly favors one side or the other, knowing that their votes will not be secret?
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 11:00 AM
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10. Don't forget how the Neo Fascists have dissed the Pentagon when the exper
erts told the Shrub it would take 500,000 troops to secure Iraq and the Idiot Bush went with the rosier plan that we would be greeted with Flowers instead. I think more than a few of the brass are brassed off.
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skygazer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 11:02 AM
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11. I met a military man the other day
I was at the doctor's office for a follow up on neck surgery. This guy was at the window talking to the receptionist. He was a reservist who'd had knee surgery. He told her that the higher ups were giving him a hard time. They were pressuring him to get a medical discharge so they could send him to Iraq. He said, "they keep waving the flag at me but I don't want to go back." He said that his knee is still not healed anyway - he can't do a lot of the things he needs to but they're pressuring him badly. He told her he had four months left in the reserves and if they sent him over there, he's automatically extended.

The girl got up, went in to the doctor and came out again with a note for him giving him full disability for another six months. "If you need an extension," she told him, "just let us know."

He left shaking his head and he said to me as he went out the door, "This shit is just nuts." I bet I know who he's voting for.

Oh, and I have a lot more respect for my doctor now.
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