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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:04 PM
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Gallup poll question - are they really RW?
I also posted on GD and was told 'no', but folks here seem to think so... I would like a link and/or proof that Gallup is Republican/Right Wing for a LTTE.

Their methodology is obviously flawed, but it could just be incompetence.

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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:07 PM
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1. Compare the proportional size of Republicans in their sample...
...with the same in the last general election. Last election because it's the best way we have to predict voter turnout this year -- although my gut tells me that the Dems are way more energized than they were in 2000.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:19 PM
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7. I agree that the methodology is flawed
But, what if their model honestly shows Republicans being more likely to vote this year?

That is different than actually being a tool of Scaife or Murdoch or Moon.

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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 02:06 PM
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10. Well, I don't exactly know what they would base that model on
In addition to being totally counter-intuitive, I've never heard of any "model" to predict party voter turnout other than the previous election.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:09 PM
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2. Err, Um, If They Are Incompetent After Being in The Business As
long as they have, well, that just strains credulity...No. They are not incompetent. They are quite competent at what they do, which is pushing propoganda for the WH.

If you want PROOF that they are biased, there is none. It's something that's practically impossible to prove. There is merely evidence.

Here's a thread that I wrote about it a while back:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=534560



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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:11 PM
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3. Not a friggin chance.
There is no way that you could just screw that up. It's very deliberate.
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papau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:12 PM
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4. Gallup's "forum" admits it has often projected GOP leads in Sept that
Edited on Tue Sep-28-04 01:12 PM by papau
did not exist on election day -

but says it was the voters who changed their mind.

Others say that Election date party affiliation is pretty stable, while noting that party affiliation by survey goes all over the lot driven by news story.

So are 80 to 90% frozen in place by Oct 1 - or do party affiliations change?

If rather frozen, then Gallup's method returns a GOP biased result right up to the election. And it easy to read the history that way.

But you can not disprove the idea of folks changing their minds!
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irancontra Donating Member (689 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:12 PM
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5. well for me it's also the fact that it's CNN/Gallup poll
CNN is definitely skewed & are schills who have already called it for the dumbya.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:13 PM
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6. Gallup is being sued right now for mishandling and extrapolating from
polls to get the desired result.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:29 PM
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8. Good take on that question
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slinkerwink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-28-04 01:37 PM
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9. yes, they are---the CEO of Gallup donated to Republicans
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