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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:46 AM
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The world is safer with Saddam Hussein in a prison cell
Edited on Wed Sep-29-04 09:46 AM by JPJones
But the world is not safer because of the chaos in Iraq, caused by the complete lack of understanding of Iraqi history and civilization, listening only to the flim-flammers among the Iraqi exiles, trying to create a supply-side paradise in Iraq that has led to enrichment of non-Iraqis and massive unemployment and misery for the Iraqi people.

The world is not safer because of the thousand Bin Ladens Bush has created by colonizing Iraq.

The world is not safer because OBL has had three years to plan his next attack (even if he is 'captured' in October).

The world is also safer because Slobadan Milosevic is in a prison cell, but Clinton, Holbrooke, Albright and Clark did this without the loss of a single American life, and without chaos after the war.

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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:48 AM
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1. I'm sorry, I still don't understand how the world is safer without Saddam
Iraqis would've been safer without Saddam, if we didn't mess it up...but how is the world safer? At what point was Saddam a threat to the world?
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:53 AM
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6. We won't win that argument.
We need to concede the fact that Saddam was an evil prick, then quickly get on to the fact that the world ISN'T safer thanks to George*.

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russian33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:58 AM
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8. He was an evil prick, but he wasn't a threat to the world
Maybe his immediate neighbors, and even that was back in late 80's/early 90's, but that's about it. He was contained. I don't understand how he was a threat to the world, and how the world is safer without him? If you can provide clear explanation to me, maybe I might see it better, but from where I'm standing, he wasn't a threat to US, much less the entire world.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:17 AM
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11. I agree he wasn't a threat to the world...
...but that's too complicated an argument to make to the average Joe. I say we cede the point (I'm not weeping over anyone's bad perception of Saddam), as a way to get past the Bushco spin to the real issue: the world ISN'T a safer place post George's War.

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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:12 AM
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9. Actually ...

If we look at the death counts, I daresay a LOT of Iraqis would have been safer with Saddam in power. Yes he was an evil dictator and he tortured and killed people. But he maintained order.

This is the way MANY Iraqis see this issue (as do many in Russia?!?!?!). Now I'd rather have a little democratic chaos than dictatorial order. But Iraq is NOT a Democracy yet. Bush screwed up the "intermediate" phase by not have a plan besides doling out money to his chronies.
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:20 AM
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12. You sit down an make this point to a voter...
...without them getting the totally mistaken impression that you support a murderous dictator. If you can do that, I want YOU for my president.

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Reverend_Smitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:49 AM
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2. Someone needs to make a commercial...
listing all the terrorist attacks and soldier casualties since we captured Saddam...then we'll see who's safer now
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ewagner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:49 AM
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3. Given choices
of a contained and weak Saddam and a stable country with jobs, health care, and a generally functioning society OR

a chaotic, disfunctional country on the verge of civil war, haven for terrorists, religous strife.....

which would you choose?
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rooboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:50 AM
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4. The world is not safer with Saddam in a prison cell...
let's forget that Saddam never attacked anyone except his neighbors. The citizens of Brazil, Alaska, Chad or Tahiti are no more or less safe with Saddam in custody.

The guy was an impotent nothing with no WMD, no Navy, no Airforce and a tinpot Army.

Mounting violence and international terrorism makes it very, very clear that the world would have actually been safer with Saddam in power.
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 10:14 AM
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10. Bush attacked KUWAIT!!!!

And last time I checked, Kuwait is NOT a Democracy!!!!!

What is the difference trading one dictator for another, Saddam for King Abdullah???? Saddam for Prince Dubaya and Viceory Negroponte????

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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:51 AM
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5. Yes, Mr. Bush...
...I believe the world is safer without Saddam. But do you believe that the world is safer now that Iraq is a terrorist breeding ground, and with Osama Bin Laden still at large??

Answer the question, Mr. Bush. Answer to the American people.

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markus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 09:54 AM
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7. But we have all the terrusts right where we want them!
Wish I could draw. There's a nice 'toon in there somewhere, of Bush standing inside of come circled Humvee's garded by soliers (think calvary surrounded by Indians) and surrounded by a massive horde of Iraqis.

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JPJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-29-04 07:44 PM
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13. kick n/t
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